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To Lennon Fan wrote on Nov 16, 2006 11:36 AM:

" I love you. "

kevin wrote on Nov 15, 2006 1:10 AM:

" This country needs leadership by example and all the politcal leaders need to do is mimic Lincoln, T. Roosevelt, FDR and JFK. They all can be winners then for their constituents. "

Steamboat Willy wrote on Nov 13, 2006 11:46 PM:

" I hear ya Marlin! "

Marlin wrote on Nov 13, 2006 3:28 PM:

" When you have an incompetent President, and you bring that up, the hard core followers call it "Bush Bashing". They want you to be quiet and take your medicine. They are so emotionally attached to Bush, that they can't let go, even if the country goes into the dumper. Mostly, that tends to be a personal problem and goes beyond politics. "

To: To Steve91 wrote on Nov 10, 2006 3:06 PM:

" Yes, I agree, your right. It really didn't matter when this happened Bush has been wildly incompetent (and bashable) throughout his presidency. "

To: Cheney wrote on Nov 10, 2006 10:48 AM:

" I'm not a big fan of Carl Rove but I'll say one thing; any body who could orchestrate a campaign to get George W. elected president (twice even) has got to be pretty clever. Or is it just that American voters are that stupid? "

to trr-jones wrote on Nov 10, 2006 12:28 AM:

" NO "

YadaYada wrote on Nov 9, 2006 10:38 PM:

" See how easy it is to get them (Dems) to chase their own tails? "

hmm wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:16 PM:

" can the demos. find/get bin laden??? (like sadam hussain has bin got) "

To Steve91 wrote on Nov 9, 2006 1:34 PM:

" It wouldn't have mattered when Bush did it. You still would have bashed him. "

To: Oliver Rhodes wrote on Nov 9, 2006 1:23 PM:

" What exactly did Bush himself lie about? "

trr-jones wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:49 PM:

" So we are finally going to try a new plan. Has any president in history ever squandered so much American effort, lives and resources on a "pet-project?" "

Steve91 wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:39 PM:

" Nice move Bush, but it is too late. Rumsfeld has already done about all the damage he can do. Besides you only took out half the trash -- what about Cheney? Of course Rumsfeld tells us till the end that he is the only one smart enough to understand the complexity of the war. I guess he knows more than all those generals from West Point. Him and Cheney are matching bookends. Way to pick them Bush. "

TO: Yada Yada wrote on Nov 9, 2006 11:31 AM:

" You puttin' us on? "

To YadaYada wrote on Nov 9, 2006 11:00 AM:

" Your comments are only comforting the enemy. Like George Bush says, you are either with us or against us. If you don't like it then leave! Go to France. Just don't get in the way of the Democrats who actually want to help this country. Your extremist minority views are totally unconstructive. "

Oliver Rhodes wrote on Nov 9, 2006 10:56 AM:

" If you know Bush lied, clap your hands! If you know Bush lied, clap your hands! If you know Bush lied, and Iraq is occupied, If you know Bush lied, clap your hands! "

Bye Bye wrote on Nov 9, 2006 10:35 AM:

" Don't let the door hit your fanny on the way out. "

What's really funny wrote on Nov 9, 2006 10:10 AM:

" A war that George Sr. Started roughly 16 years ago and never finished, George Jr will not be able to finish either "

Wow... wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:45 AM:

" There certainly are a lot of ignorant liberals coming out of the woodwork.... "

Jim Owens wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:34 AM:

" THE FACE OF A TORTURER; IN YOUR NAME, IN MY NAME, IN OUR NAME, THIS IGNOMINIOUS CHARACTER APPROVED OF TORTURE, AND, TO THIS VERY DAY, PROMOTES IT WITH HIS FELLOW, NEO-CON FIENDS WHO CALL THEMSELVES "PUBLIC SERVANTS." THEY SCRAMBLE ABOUT, RIGHT THIS MINUTE, LIKE EM TECHNICIANS AT A SCHOOL SHOOTING, THEIR AGITATED SOULS CARING NOT THE SLIGHTEST FOR THE PEOPLE THEY ABUSED BUT ONLY FOR THEIR OWN PROTECTION. AND MANY OF THEM STILL LURK IN YOUR PENTAGON RIGHT NOW. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT? P.S. SAVE YOUR BREATH, NEO-CON ATTACK-DOGS, FOR YOU CAN BANK ON MY SPENDING THE REST OF MY LIFE EXPOSING THUGS LIKE RUMSFELD. "

Oliver Rhodes wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:16 AM:

" Absolutely poetic, "Not Fachna." "

Not Fachna wrote on Nov 9, 2006 9:00 AM:

" The SECULARIST ENABLER has vanquished the mighty DECIDER and his general. She and her followers will now set the agenda where no absolutes and no boundaries will hopefully become the norm. Before that can progress, the enemy must be punished for their transgressions against humanity. Long live the SECULARIST ENABLER. "

Arrrrrrrgh wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:45 AM:

" What the heck is the matter with you Republicans? "

Rumsfeld the Putrid wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:23 AM:

Re: to Things to expect wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:12 AM:

" It's to be expected that a Democrat could not remember something that happened five years ago. Of course, no one expected that kind of attack. After it happened, there were immediate steps taken and we've not seen an attack since. Seems like pretty darn good leadership to me. Oh...and you didn't mention anything about the higher taxes we can expect. What's the matter...a little truth to harsh for you? "

Not Fachna wrote on Nov 9, 2006 8:02 AM:

" The SECULARIST ENABLER now has the power that she graves. She has vanquished the DECIDER and his top general. We will now be shown all that is right and good. Her movement will show us the way that a society with no absolutes and no boundaries is truly the road the eternal contentment. But first, the evildoers must pay for their sins. However, the punishment will be revealed only when the ENABLER and her followers decide that the time is right. Praise be to the SECULARIST ENABLER. "

great wrote on Nov 9, 2006 6:59 AM:

" it was about time "

To: To Captain Fantastic wrote on Nov 9, 2006 3:31 AM:

" You must not have driven by a gas station today. Up $.19 here. You also did not see the stock market crash as most republicans led us to believe would happen if the demos took over the house and senate. "

Les wrote on Nov 9, 2006 3:25 AM:

" Can Rush Limbaugh say FLIP FLOP? George Bush just a few days ago said that Rumsfeld would remain at his job until the end of his term. "

YadaYada wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:39 AM:

" With the Democrats taking control of Congress in January 2007, one can only conclude that at that point in time the Dems will have exclusive jurisdiction over the funding and conduct of the Iraq War. I would guess, therefore, that the war would be all but over, then. What will be the time table, Dems? Thank you in advance for ending the war so easily and simply without jeopardizing our security. "

Wife of Union Man to YAY! wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:36 AM:

" YAY! wrote on November 08, 2006 3:46 PM: "YAAY! YAAAAAAAAY! K-Fed, Rumsfeld both canned in 2 days. What a great week. LOL." Nuff said!...LOL!!! "

YadaYada wrote on Nov 9, 2006 12:20 AM:

" Rummy, you will be deeply missed and loved by millions and millions of us. History will, without doubt, record you as a true patriot who served his country with the greatest distinction and directed our troops in battle against the most vicious and mindless enemy America has ever known; a war that will be waged throughout the entire world for a hundreds of years to come. History will judge you without prejudice, but with all the facts, and you shall be a real American national hero and household name to all our descendants. In short order, the free people of the world will be saying of you, "why didn't those Democrat politicians see Islamo-fascists with the same clarity of mind as did America's greatest and longest serving Secretary of Defense"? "

Fred Bear wrote on Nov 8, 2006 11:59 PM:

" To Heads in the sand: Your words only give comfort to the enemy. We must stand behind the Democrats in power. If the terrorists sense any weakness in our ranks it will only embolden them. I encourage you to not be unpatriotic and not bash our elected majority... think of the message it sends to the terrorists! "

Heads in the sand wrote on Nov 8, 2006 9:55 PM:

" Changing the administration will not make the problems go away. Actually, they'll soon be a LOT closer...Weakness ("peace at any price") will only encourage the openly agressive Islamic millions to turn up the heat. They will NOT be content to just "stay over there after the Americans leave." There'll soon be NO ONE standing in the way or any kind of deterrant whatsoever. This is a war that will be waged. The only questions are "where" and "when?" "

repubs have no plan wrote on Nov 8, 2006 9:26 PM:

" All republicans ever do is bash the democrats without providing a plan of their own. "

A&M Fan wrote on Nov 8, 2006 9:13 PM:

" Go Aggies!!!!! "

Jim Owens wrote on Nov 8, 2006 9:05 PM:

Neither wrote on Nov 8, 2006 7:58 PM:

" I try to be neutral, but from where I stand it appears that if we don't get our way we take our ball and go home. Well, Rumsfeld is on his way home. I just don't get it. Why can't they all play "nice" and work together. Is their more to this that we should know and don't? It looks like someone is either mad or guilty. You pick. We needed a change, I only hope it is a worth while change and not a blunder like it has been. If thing's don't work, American's need to flood these office's with e-mail's and let them know. They work for us and want the power, so let them prove they can do the job. "

Mary wrote on Nov 8, 2006 7:16 PM:

" Donald Rumsfield has played as a tough cookie. It is about time for payback. "

cjc wrote on Nov 8, 2006 7:10 PM:

" V The times may be changing, but they will change again. Johnson was liberal. When the peoplegot fed up they put in a conservative-Nixon. Then it was liberal Carter. then conservative Reagan. Then Moderate conservative Bush . then Liberal Clinton. Now Bush. If you remember, Clinton lost the house and senate in his 2nd year because of his gun ban and other liberal BS. Now Bush has lost the legislature bacause of Iraq, but when the liberal Dems upset all the Independent voters that voted against Bush, the conservative will be re-elected again. Its like a pendelum, It just swings back and forth. "

V wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:39 PM:

" I love the Republicans on here who talk about there is no cut and run, the Democrats lie, all that Democrats do is whine, and how Democrats do not support elected officials. Whatever, folks. Your gutless wonder stepped down and President "Thumper" is about to be handed a plate of crow to eat. You fakes, you cry and complain more than we Democrats could hope to do. Thank Goodness these times are a changin' "

Loser of the day comments wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:37 PM:

" "With the Dems now in 'charge' we can all expect higher taxes and sadly, an attack on our shores. Way to go voters..." Remind me again. Who was in charge of the Whitehouse, and Congress when last we were attacked on our shores? I have forgotten." The poster that put this filth out for all to see may as well have said "hey, everyone, I just wet my bed because I am so mad at the majority of Americans" "

Middle Class Tax Cuts wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:32 PM:

" Are you claiming that the middle class does not work for a living? The only group likely to see an increase is the top 3%. Middle class tax increases will not happen. College tuition will most likely be tax deductible and Pell grants will be extended. Bushees tax bill is not up for debate until 2010, so any increases will have to be ammendments. And I can assure you, no democrat will put legislation on the floor that will increase the tax burden of the middle or lower class. Be happy, the power shift is good news for not only America, but the rest of the world. "

Wow wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:11 PM:

" Bush's incompetence just continues to rear its ugly head. Had he fired Rumsfeld a week ago or even a month ago, he may have been able to salvage the House of Representatives. What a moron!! "

Lennon Fan wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:09 PM:

" Merry Christmas--War Is Over; If You Want It! "

To: Middle Class Tax Cuts wrote on Nov 8, 2006 6:05 PM:

" How do you figure you'll get a tax CUT? Do you work for a living? Then you're a target for INCREASES by our liberal bleeding heart friends. "

Cheney wrote on Nov 8, 2006 5:51 PM:

" Hmm, last week Cheney states "they do not care what the publi thinks about how they are handling the war, they are simply going to keep moving forward with the plan they have" Bush states two weeks ago that Rummy and Cheney will be on board until the end of his term. Wow, what a difference an election makes. Rummy is gone and Cheney is eating his words. Rove's plan failed terribly. He was obviously advising repubs to "stay the course" and to just keep acting like school yard bullies. Well, KKKarl, your plan failed. America has spoke and things are changing. You will be the next to go. "

Middle Class Tax Cuts wrote on Nov 8, 2006 5:30 PM:

" Congratulations to most of Bloomington/Normal. With the new Democratic control, we can expect a reduction in our tax burden. This is a great great day!!! "

To: 100 Hours wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:41 PM:

" "We???" Are you a member of Congress? "

To Please explain, Dems... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:38 PM:

" There's a huge difference between being wrong and lying. That's something you Republicans always seem to bring up when discussing Bush, Yellow Cake, Iraq, and WMDs. Democrats were presenting a theory about oil prices that didn't pan out. Hey, at least no one got killed over it! "

momo the camel wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:36 PM:

" To: "Blast from the past-haha": Here's a fact. Nov. 7th was yesterday. Do you want to try your post again? "

R.I.P. wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:17 PM:

" Conservative movement. 1968-2006. Started with Goldwater, ended with Bush. Cause of death - blindly following a leader who betrayed their principles. "

Congrats wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:15 PM:

" to Karl Rove. His double thronged strategy of dividing the country and short term over long term gain has pretty much devastated the Republican party for years to come. In the end he proved to be the Democrats strongest ally. "

With us or against us wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:12 PM:

" I'm already tired of these Republicans who hate America and do nothing but bash our elected Congress. The people have spoken. If you don't like it then leave!!!Hahahahaha "

100 hours wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:10 PM:

" Nothing's going to change, blah, blah, blah. In the first 100 hours expect the minimum wage to increase, anti-lobbying laws, college loan rates cut in half, stem cell research approved, and the 9/11 commission recommendations all approved. The only thing that will stop it at this point is Bush's pen, and I dare him to do it. We have all the votes and we actually have the power to vote on it. We'll also find out what King George has been up to these past 6 years. Rumsfeld took the easy way out and quit. "

Blast from the past-haha wrote on Nov 8, 2006 4:02 PM:

" Democrats can't win, they are too busy calling names and stomping their feet! wrote on October 31, 2006 3:06 PM:"Ever notice how when a Republican makes a point they use facts and when a Democrat makes a point they can only call names and bash President Bush? It's getting old folks, and the silent majority will once again prevail on November 7th when the Republicans WIN AGAIN! Yippieeeeeeeeeeee!" "

YAY! wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:46 PM:

" YAAY! YAAAAAAAAY! K-Fed, Rumsfeld both canned in 2 days. What a great week. LOL. "

lintpicker wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:37 PM:

" " You have been sat too long here for any good you have been doing. Depart, I say, and let us have done with you. In the Name of god, Go." (Oliver Cromwell: 1653) For Bush there's " We got a thumpin' ". Unfortunately, his type always has to get "a thumpin'". And, for those who feel awful for Rummy, "grief counselors" are standing by. Rummy, on the other hand, will count on those whose backs ( and arses) he's scratched during the fifty years or so he's been in "self service", euphemistically referred to as Public Service. Maybe he'll go back into Pharmaceuticals. Or for the Democratic Party, which has rolled over for him for these six years. In any event, don't try to imagine Washington without Rummy. I suspect we won't have to. And, what a good thing that is. It's very difficult to imagine Washington with one less genius. "

??? wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:32 PM:

" The senate and house on average change hands about every 14 years. This isn't news; it's just another example that neither party fully works. Everyone on here sounds like a cry baby; even the supposed demowacks. The simple truth is that it was time for a change, even if it is for the lesser of two evils…. "

to Things to expect" wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:27 PM:

HR Pro wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:20 PM:

" If Bush had sacked Rummy six months ago, maybe the Republicans could have maintained control. However, Bush's attitude is "my way or the highway," and the American people have spoken! "

Slow wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:15 PM:

" Why is this website so incredibly slow??? What are they using for a server Windows 3.1?? "

To Please explain, Dems wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:13 PM:

" The reason the gas prices aren’t shooting up and probably wont is because there will now be an investigation into the oil price gouging, prescription drug price gouging and sending our boys to war on false evidence and hunches. The republicans need to tread lightly to the paper shredder for now. "

To Rummy wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:09 PM:

" Good idea to step down as a private citizen before you go to jail for the rest of your life. Thanks for all the slain troops. "

Just an observation.... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:08 PM:

" Did DR resign? or was his resignation requested by the Oval Office? One might suspect. If so, then consider this: GWB has stated over and over again that he supports DR, but now.... Is this a Flip-Flop? "

To: Please explain, Dems. wrote on Nov 8, 2006 3:05 PM:

" Wait just wait for it...they wouldn't do it the very next day.. that would incriminate themselves.. oh wait this is from the Houston Chronicle...Light sweet crude for December delivery climbed 90 cents to settle at $59.83 a barrel Wednesday on the New York Mercantile Exchange. Ta da, now go lay by your dish. "

Capt. Fantastic wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:55 PM:

" Well, they're not going to skyrocket prices overnight, but you watch...over the next couple months, it'll be back over $2.50 a gallon, and then, when next spring rolls around, it'll be back up over $3.50. The replundercans aren't even that dumb to jack up the price so quickly--they've got enough trouble trying to spin the election results today. And I agree with 'To Everyone'...this country was bought and sold a LONG time ago...most politicians on both sides are disgusting. Blagojevich is slimy and putrid--the only reason he won was because Topinka was worse. I hope DC doesn't corrupt Obama--he's not just the hope for the dems, he's the hope for ALL of us. "

To For you Hawks wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:53 PM:

" That is awesome....I wish I would have posted that! The most true statement I have read on a blog in a long time! "

How funny is that wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:52 PM:

" One day after having there tails handed to them. They decide to have Rummy step down. Perhaps now the republican party can see how serious this nation is about the blood for oil war in Iraq! The sad part is all of the innocent lives both American and Iraq citizens that have been lost. W has a lot of blood on his hands. Perhaps there is a seat next to Hitler for the after life in his future? "

Flabby-Jawed Pentagon Stiff wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:51 PM:

" But Lord George, you were supposed to dismiss Rumsfeld BEFORE the election! Where have you been? "

For you Hawks wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:46 PM:

" Look who just "Cut and Run." "

This is great for Republicans wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:42 PM:

" Now Nancy Pelosi will become the New Helen oy Troy. "

Big Man wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:41 PM:

" Is it possible for people to look at things from a non-partisan perspective? The resignation of Secretrary Rumsfeld was good for the country. The war in Iraq has been an admitted failure. New leadership is needed and I hope Robert Gates can get things turned around. This is not about politics (by the way I am an Independent) it is about finishing what we started in Iraq. We have been there since 2002 and it's getting worse. Can we at least agree on that? "

Realist wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:37 PM:

" What a coward. Sure, he will send people off to fight in wars and spill blood, but when it is his turn to fight, he turns a yellow tail and runs. Rummy is is Chicken-hawk. When the tough gets going, so does Rummy. "

smell ya later... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:31 PM:

" how can we have Lame Duck Soup without Rummy?!?!?! "

To "To: Things to expect... " wrote on Nov 8, 2006 2:27 PM:

" Yes, correct. I meant the attacks that happened right after our country was weakened for eight years (during the 90's) with no response to terrorism. Remember the first World Trade Center bombing or the attack on the USS Cole. The response from Bill, 'I can't be bothered with terrorism, I got Monica in the Oval office'. "

To everyone wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:59 PM:

" There is absolutely nothing different between the Republican and the Democrats anylonger. Both are letting Jobs leave this country faster everyday. As long as they get there huge campaign funding they could care less.. There is a huge problem in this country when both sides spent 65 million in the Chicago area alone. Think what that much money could do for the schools here in Illinois. The best bet is clean house and start over from scratch! Tea anyone!! "

To: Things to expect... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:55 PM:

" Do you mean attacks on our shores like on 9/11 when the Republican congress and president took over? "

To Captain Fantastic wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:50 PM:

" Sorry Captain Fantastic, you are wrong. I do hope this does not become a habit. You say that Democrats were all sure that "...it was the (Oil) companies themselves lowering the prices to make their buddy republicans look good so they'd stay in office." Captain Fantastic, if that were the case, how come gas prices did not skyrocket today? Since they didn't, can I assume you and your fellow democrats are lying to us? Captain Fantastic, shame on you. "

Captain Fantastic wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:27 PM:

" Ahh, the bitter rantings of the downtrodden republicans...they've messed things up for 6 years now, and instead of taking responsibility for it and realizing the public has had enough of King George II's autocracy, all they do is jealously spew bile at the dems...and it wasn't Bush pressuring the oil companies to lower gas prices, it was the companies themselves lowering the prices to make their buddy republicans look good so they'd stay in office...nice try, but we were smarter than that! "

Dawn wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:23 PM:

" Well, its happening later than I would have liked but; the Democrats are finally geting on track to "take our country back"! Way to go Howard Dean. Keep raising the money! "

BN Cynic wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:10 PM:

" The Government news keeps getting better and better! The only cloud in the sky is that Lieberman won. "

Please explain, Dems... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:08 PM:

" Most Democrats said that the falling gasoline prices, over the past two months, was a result of Bush pressuring oil companies into lower prices before the election. Odd, if that were true, shouldn't gasoline prices skyrocket today -- and yet, they did not. I guess this is another in a long series of lies from the Democrats. "

Elaine wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:05 PM:

" I am very sorry to see this patriot go. "

Things to expect... wrote on Nov 8, 2006 1:01 PM:

" With the Dems now in 'charge' we can all expect higher taxes and sadly, an attack on our shores. Way to go voters... "

YES!!! wrote on Nov 8, 2006 12:50 PM:

" One more victory for the Democrats!! Way to Go!! "

Mike wrote on Nov 8, 2006 12:50 PM:

" You're doing a heck of a job, Rummy. "

About time! wrote on Nov 8, 2006 12:49 PM:

" bye bye Donnie "

Jon wrote on Nov 8, 2006 12:41 PM:

" Can I watch him clean out his desk? Can we put a camera on him when he puts those pictures of his family into a big cardboard box marked "Office Stuff"? This is by no means as sweet as Santorum getting the boot, but man....its pretty sweet. "

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