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Smoking should be allowed in taverns
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I have been reading about the no-smoking policy to begin in the Twin Cities. After careful consideration, these are my comments as a non-smoker:

I despise tobacco products. We know what they can do, but adults choose if they want to smoke or be around it.

One change in policy needs to be reconsidered -- taverns. Taverns are totally different from the other establishments. They are for adults only. Children should not be there under any circumstances.

Don't allow parents or other patrons to bring children in, period. You must be 21 to enter a tavern.

Adults then can choose if they want to be in a tavern or not. I know of many taverns in other towns that don't allow anyone under 21 to enter.

Taverns will lose money. Drinking and smoking are two things that seem to go hand in hand for some adults. Forcing taverns to not allow smoking won't help them at all. They will lose business.

I know many people will believe I am wrong, but adults in this situation should have the right to smoke in taverns.

Greg Wargo

Colfax

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Carrie Nation wrote on Nov 26, 2006 6:23 PM:

" We won the fight in Colorado. The smoking was banned and the taverns are closing. The governor's pen is mightier than the axe! "

jew wrote on Nov 23, 2006 11:09 PM:

" grandma,,,super mans wife died from secound hand smoke "

I agree Greg but wrote on Nov 23, 2006 9:20 PM:

" 18 is a good age. If you can buy cigarettes at the age of 18, you should be able to choose for yourself whether you want to be around it or not. "

To An American Grandfather wrote on Nov 23, 2006 9:16 PM:

" Holy Moly! I had a few of those Fire lake shots and worked the trade with one of those women on that street. Spent a week there one night and I swear, I believe, I met the man. "

Golffan wrote on Nov 23, 2006 5:23 PM:

" Ooooooooh Lordie: God bless you, " An American Grandfather": All-e-friggin'- luia: "Blessed are the clean of heart for they shall see God". And, if they look hard enough, Mama Coco. And her legacy. And God bless those who know and know that they know. And those who know not but know that they know not. But woe unto those who know not, but know not that they know not. Theirs is the bitter kingdom of the City Council. But God bless Mama Coco, Bloomington's legendary impresario who directed and joined with the Choir in their rendition of the "Moulton St. Blues". Amen, Amen I say to you: this life shall pass away. But "Mama Coco's" vision for B/N will never pass away. It is forever. And may be witnessed, as God surely gave us the "Insight" to witness. Check your local listings for date and time. "

Harry wrote on Nov 23, 2006 3:08 PM:

" Moulton Street and Mama CoCo! And Paul Harvey "

An American Grandfather wrote on Nov 23, 2006 11:30 AM:

" Yea, and in those evil days Bloomington had bad, off-color prostitute women, plying their impure trade along Moulton Street ..... many of them the victims of white-slave rings run by smoking and drinking and gambling men! Oh, the shame of it! The soul of every Christian man and decent woman recoils from the stain and stench of saloons, from which all wickedness - and a good deal of public urination - flows! The good people of Bloomington are as sheep who have gone astray, and must be forcibly called away from the worship of their idols of sin by the stalwart and pious members of our City Council, assembled as the very vestry of our community. Woe unto those who hath not our Savior as their Lord and their light, the Lake of Fire and the torment of demons surely await them! "

Paleeeeese wrote on Nov 23, 2006 10:01 AM:

" American Grandfather - This is a county issue for small town taverns. I am sure the owners woould gfo non smoking if they feel that the folks that spend money there would stay and spend more. But to the point - What city is now or ever was known as the "shining city on the hill"? My history is unclear. If it's Bloomington - I guess you don't remember the good ole days of neighborhood grocery stores and taverns. Were we shining then? "

me wrote on Nov 23, 2006 7:32 AM:

" Yes ,smoking should be allowed.Then, in time bars will be non smoking if no one else lights up.It might take a while though.The cancer will get them all sooner or later.Then we will have no more smoking .Yipeeeeeee. "

To Smokiing Is Allowed wrote on Nov 23, 2006 6:40 AM:

" For your information the majority has not spoken. If that were the case sir I don't think you would see more posts for smokers rights in bars than against. Here again we have some would be spokesperson of morality, health, and safety spewing inaccuarate information. As for your ananlogy of firing rounds and a sig? Now that sir is juvenile, as well as the rest of your ridiculous response. "

DLC wrote on Nov 23, 2006 6:36 AM:

" I'm a non-smoker, but I don't think they should ban smoking from bars, if people don't like it, don't go. "

Great Grandma wrote on Nov 23, 2006 6:15 AM:

" There is no proof what so ever that anyone ever died from second hand smoke. However, there are plenty of deaths each year contributed to second hand drinking, ( a non drinker killed by a drinker ) I think we are trying to ban the wrong product here. "

Dan from Le Roy wrote on Nov 22, 2006 7:35 PM:

" Nicely put Greg. I agree with you 100%. "

I'm a non smoker too wrote on Nov 22, 2006 6:52 PM:

" How many people that don't smoke are going to go into the bars where more than 3/4 of the people they visited there won't go because they can't smoke? If they do go it won't be for long. It will be a boring place full of clean air just for those few people that will buy 2 drinks and leave. It's going to take thousands of people to drink hundreds of drinks to keep each and every bar up and running as usual. I don't think that the non smokers are going to go to the bars every night and drink 3 times as much to keep the bars open. There's not that many designated drivers out there and the cab companies don't have that many cars. "

Golffan wrote on Nov 22, 2006 5:13 PM:

" Alleluia "My American Grandfather" Brother. "He that troubleth his own house (or tavern) shall inherit the wind ( And, of course, the shs hysterics). And the fool shall be servant to the wise of heart". Scarlett women and shameless men. And the Beatles. And, I'd hasten to add, humbly but firmly, pool tables. Which have been the ruin of many a spotless lass. Whether they play pool or not. Thank the Lord, my priest has looked into and taken the measure of my soul long ago. He asked, and I agreed. (As long as he didn't smoke, of course.) What he saw through the mighty mists of smoky time is too terrible to pass along in this forum. O.K.: I'll fess up, since I know you secretly want to know. He saw fire, brimstone and smokers. But no Lake. ( Are you sure about that, M.A.G.?) Anyway, I've seen the light. All is vanity, vanity and more vanity. And smoking, of course. And suddenly everyone was run over by a truck. "

Taverns only wrote on Nov 22, 2006 12:12 PM:

" Great letter, Greg. You said it exactly right. If an individual is over 21 you should have the sense to make your own decisions. If you don't like the smoke in a tavern, don't go. Choose somewhere else to socialize. I'm all for the tavern owner's right to provide a smoking environment for his patrons, if that's what he chooses to do. "

An American Grandfather wrote on Nov 22, 2006 11:14 AM:

" Smoking, drinking, public urination ..... all abominations! Consorting with painted women in dark, smoky dens of sin, and there's probably gambling and dancing going on as well. Abomination of desolation! What has become of our shining city on a hill? Woe unto those who have not the Savior as the Lord and Light of their lives! They shall be cast into the Lake of Fire! "

Smoking IS allowed wrote on Nov 22, 2006 9:58 AM:

" Just do it outside. No problem. It's legal, but regulated. Would you be annoyed if I set up target practice with my Sig right next to you? Popping rounds, throwing lead, creating gunpowder fumes, hurting your ears???? Hey, guns are legal, aren't they? It's my "right", isn't it? I guess you'd just have to put up with me. Well, no, it doesn't work that way. Indeed, my weapons are perfectly legal, however there are certain conditions that I must abide by in order to use them. It should be no different with smoking. The majority has spoken; we want the ban. The problem is that the minority grouping of smokers is very loud, and quite juvenile in their insistence that they continue on. "

I agree wrote on Nov 22, 2006 9:53 AM:

" Greg has the point here, which is also the problem. Adults don't want to be adult about anything these days. "

momo the camel wrote on Nov 22, 2006 6:24 AM:

" Greg: I agree. Smoking should be allowed. As long as there isn't any drinking going on. "

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