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County Board OKs wind farm proposal
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NORMAL -- Work on McLean County’s second wind farm could begin this summer. The McLean County Board approved Invenergy’s request for a special-use permit for the 100-turbine White Oak Wind Energy Center in western McLean County and part of Woodford County on Tuesday.

Joel Link, Midwest director of business development for Invenergy, said the company needs to finish up a few things, including determining final turbine placement, but could apply for building permits in a couple of months.

Meanwhile, Melissa McGrath, the Bloomington attorney representing residents who oppose the wind farm, said she will be discussing a possible appeal of the County Board’s decision with her clients.

“I’m not surprised they took the action but I’m disappointed by the procedure and lack of procedure,” McGrath said. “After 12½ days of testimony, the County Board takes 10 minutes. They clearly didn’t review the testimony.”

But Carlock resident Janet Suhr, who will have three turbines on her property, said she believes the opposition received “more than ample opportunity to present their case. The zoning board of appeals was extremely patient with them.”

McGrath disputes that belief. Procedural errors, such as changing the rules in the middle of the hearings and placing time limits on opponents’ testimony when none was placed on proponents, were among the items McGrath cited in a request for a temporary restraining order on Monday.

McGrath asked McLean County Circuit Court Judge Charles Reynard to postpone the County Board’s vote Tuesday, maintaining her clients did not receive the 35 days allowed by law to review the zoning board’s decision and decide on an appeal.

The McLean County Zoning Board of Appeals agreed Feb. 8 to recommend the special-use permit for the wind farm to the County Board. McGrath said she didn’t get a copy of the final findings until March 14.

But Brian Hug, the assistant state’s attorney representing the zoning board and County Board, argued the 35-day window only applies to decisions on variances, not special-use permits. While the zoning board makes a final decision on variances, it only makes recommendations on a special-use permit. The final decision is up to the County Board.

In his ruling just 30 minutes before the County Board was slated to start, Reynard agreed with Hug that if there is an appeal, it should come after the County Board’s vote, not before.

“They believe they have a right to appeal these alleged procedural errors. They appear to be correct,” said Reynard.

Link said he is not concerned about future actions, “We’re here to proceed. This is a very viable Central Illinois wind corridor with good community support,” he said.

Rural Carlock resident Mark Judd is one of those supporters.

“We’re obviously very pleased (with the decision),” Judd said. “The board was overwhelmingly in favor … We only lost one vote on the board.”

Only County Board member Tari Renner voted against the permit, saying he didn’t believe Invenergy met the criteria that no one would be harmed by the project.

Renner cited testimony suggesting property values could decline or it could take owners longer to sell homes located near the wind farm.

Board Member William T. Caisely suggested an amendment that would have required Invenergy to install automatic fire suppression systems in each turbine. The motion failed by a vote of 15-3.

Link said each turbine will be equipped to shut down in case of a fire.

“Turbines are very, very safe,” he said. “It’s rare when they could catch on fire.”

The Woodford County Zoning Board of Appeals is scheduled to start hearings on the proposed wind farm on April 25.

At a glance

What does this mean to you?

Invenergy will be able to build a 100-turbine wind farm on 12,212 acres in western McLean County.

Background

The McLean County Zoning Board of Appeals recommended a special-use permit for the project on Feb. 8, after 12 days of often heated testimony.

How they voted?

17-1; Tari Renner voted no; Ann Harding was absent; a replacement has not been named for Duffy Bass, who died last week.

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Attorney Melissa McGrath, foreground, speaks on behalf of her clients who oppose the White Oak Wind Energy Center as Public Educator for Invenergy Barnaby Dinges, center, and Carlock residents Janet Suhr, right, and Arthur Lampi, center back, listen following the McLean County Board's vote allowing the wind farm in western McLean County and part of Woodford County Tuesday morning at the Government Center downtown Bloomington. (Pantagraph/B Mosher)
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Hey wind ninnies wrote on Mar 26, 2007 3:05 PM:

" Learn a little bit about wind energy before you start spouting off. It's a complementary form of power that happens to be pollution free ... it adds to the mix and therefore benefits system reliability overall. The sky isn't falling; it's just windy. Get used to it. "

Highly Populated Area wrote on Mar 26, 2007 12:38 PM:

" The Ellsworth project requires a red flashing light on the top of every tower due to its proximity to CIRA - the Central Illinois Regional Airport. This project will be no different. In addition, there is a cropdusting business out by Comlara Park within about two miles of the turbines. "

To: My Home, My Castle wrote on Mar 25, 2007 10:35 PM:

" Can you name the airport that is within 5 miles of this project. I doubt that you can, because I don't think one exists! Isn't it amazing how many homes have "cropped-up" on land that once had corn, beans, or hayfields? Maybe the wind turbines will discourage additional development. "

My Home, My Castle wrote on Mar 24, 2007 5:43 PM:

" There are some 450 homes that will be directly and negatively affected by this wind farm, in loss of use of property due to noise and light flicker, decrease in property values, loss of future development of ground due to setbacks. In addition, I cannot even begin to count the number of properties which have valuable livestock, in the form of horses and 4-H quality cattle. The reason you don't hear as many complaints about wind farms out West is because they are placed in sparsely populated areas. This one will be within five miles of the airport, requiring red flashing lights on every tower, providing constant light pollution for country dwellers as well as city residents. The point is, this is not straight ag land....it is highly populated with med and hi price homes which are contributing taxes to the area. The wind mills will negatively affect them as well as the tax base. "

Patriot wrote on Mar 24, 2007 4:11 PM:

" Let's do our part to conserve. Go windpower! "

Landowner wrote on Mar 24, 2007 12:01 PM:

" Why do we talk so much about property values concerning homes? Since this area is zoned agricultural, it seems property values of FARMS should be the big consideration. Obviously, it would be unfair not to CONSIDER homes, but let's keep things in perspective. "

To: Full of Hot Air wrote on Mar 24, 2007 10:15 AM:

" Yes, you are full of hot air, unless you have some credentials or give your sources. It doesn't make sense that the wind industry is thriving, unless it has SOME benefit. "

Full of Hot Air wrote on Mar 23, 2007 5:31 PM:

" Wind energy will give us far more blackouts than anything we've ever experienced before. You can't just trip a switch immediately to switch to backup power everytime the wind dies down. Wind energy is far more expensive and far less reliable than any of our more traditional forms to energy, which we should be putting our money into improving, not literally throwing our dollars into the wind at this farce of an electricity source. "

Hilldweller more wrote on Mar 23, 2007 11:47 AM:

" It's true that the transmission grid will not handle all the wind energy that is proposed. Texas was #1 in new wind last year and now there is a plan to expand their grid. That's where the consumer gets hit. Someone form Com Ed told me the black out on the east coast was caused because new faster computers processed the warning message too fast for the operator to see it. "

Hilldweller wrote on Mar 23, 2007 11:42 AM:

" To clarify about your utility bill. It all started when Lt. Gov. Pat Quinn had a taskforce to investigate our vulnerability to a black out. That was after that big blackout on the East Coast. Everybody and his brother surfaced with reports on new ways to produce electricity from burning garbage to solar including wind. In 2005 the ICC (appointed by the governor) declared a VOLUNTARY renewable portfolio standard. The utilities refused to volunteer because they wanted to market the energy in the form of an "auction". I have yet to see either utility submit their plan for purchasing wind energy. The price freeze would have ended anyway. "

Cindy Sheefan wrote on Mar 22, 2007 6:09 PM:

" Thank God for the Carlock Group!!! "

The pro's wrote on Mar 22, 2007 4:23 PM:

" Did anyone know that Ameren may very well be buying some of this power now for this area? If that deal goes through then the area will benifit from this form of natural energy. The town of Carlock now will also get money. They will get a set amount for each turbine that is within 1.5 miles of the town for the life of the windfarm! Looks like a couple of the major concerns/complaints by the opposition are now taken care of...looks like almost every one should be happy! "

Thank God for the Carlock Group!!! wrote on Mar 22, 2007 3:17 PM:

" If the group in Carlock had not organized there would have been no one protecting the interests of the public. It was amazing what that group was able to put together in terms of a grassroots community organization. The process does not protect the interests of the average citizen. We are all blessed that these people were willing to put their time, energy and money into fighting for all of us. There are many many many of us who are applauding them from the sidelines. They are the true patriots!!!!!! "

To Check your Utility Bill wrote on Mar 22, 2007 1:39 PM:

" hun..... You got proof?.Enlighten us. "

Just Curious wrote on Mar 22, 2007 1:29 PM:

" Why do they keep spelling Marc Judd's name wrong? "

Check your Utility Bill wrote on Mar 22, 2007 11:31 AM:

" The local utilities were forced to buy this power in deals made a few years back. When our governor could not get the legislative votes he needed to force utilities to buy power, he did an end run around the law by having the Illinois Commerice Commission, via the direction of Pat Quinn, MANDATE that they buy the more expensive power. The cost is to upgrade the transmission lines for putting this power onto the grid. Part of the deal was taking the rate freeze off so the utilities wouldn't absorb the higher cost - with the rate freeze off, they passed the increased cost onto consumers beginning in 2007 with nonsensical listings like Transmission Delivery Charge, and "increased transportation fee"....translation....WIND ENERGY. "

To Wind no AKA wind Phart wrote on Mar 21, 2007 7:39 PM:

" Those that know, respect their neighbours and the environment. Those that don't covet. "

Dr Science@Psychedelic disco wind farm University for environmental studies Ellsworth Campus wrote on Mar 21, 2007 6:13 PM:

" Hilldweller... old fashioned machinery?..One more time. I see you have not completed your study assignments....Link...www.vestas.com/vestas/global/en/ "

Devil's Advocate here wrote on Mar 21, 2007 6:10 PM:

" Yes I realize our Great land is taken out of production. My family and I have farmed here since 1889. The land taken out of production for the wind farm is very small. And can be reclaimed in the future. Should we also stop the building of subdivisions that eat up our great Agricultural land ? Should we stop the proposed bypass on the east side of town? "

Cher Noble@DeWitt County the Hoot and Holler wrote on Mar 21, 2007 5:48 PM:

" Hilldweller! Stop blogging, and get over here and straiten up these recycling bins. "

Hilldweller wrote on Mar 21, 2007 4:22 PM:

" To "Earth has a Fever" even the wind developers admit that wind power is not the solution. The generators are often used as a "green" symbol in advertising but that's about the extent of their usefulness. I believe there is a better solution - one based on new technology not old fashioned machinery. "

To Wind no wrote on Mar 21, 2007 3:20 PM:

" Does no mean no , or does it stand for the Nitrous Oxide your sniffing. "

Tax Payer wrote on Mar 21, 2007 2:34 PM:

" To Earth Has A Fever: Al Gore! Big a wind bag as he is, there should be no need for wind farms. He needs to practice what he preaches. "

"The earth has a fever" wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:43 PM:

" Haven't you anti wind whiners heard about global warming or do you just want to stick your heads in the sand? Check Al Gore's testimony before congress today. Keep trying to block wind energy. You won't be around for the major effects, but your children or grandchildren will. There should be a law against impeding protecting our climate and atmosphere...aiding and abetting polluters. "

TO: To: "to wind no - page 2 wrote on Mar 21, 2007 1:08 PM:

" You said:::: "The only problem with your brilliant armchair quarterbacking and complete analysis is that you are forgetting the MONTHS of discussion between the county and Invenergy that happened PRIOR to all open meeting discussion." PROVE IT...I'm tired of the conspiracy theories that Invenergy and the county had it all worked out beforehand. I've heard the conspiracy theories over the past 6 months without 1 shred of hard evidence. "

To: "to wind no - page 2" wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:26 PM:

" The only problem with your brilliant armchair quarterbacking and complete analysis is that you are forgetting the MONTHS of discussion between the county and Invenergy that happened PRIOR to all open meeting discussion. We know that this went on because "That is just the way we (the board) do business". (Read your meeting notices - that comes straight from the board and ZBA) So what if the residents took too long. They had NOTHING in time comparison compared to Invenergy!! "

Dan wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:14 PM:

" More wind power please, I just love those wind turbines. We cant get enough of them.YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS "

TO Devil's Advocate wrote on Mar 21, 2007 12:01 PM:

" DID YOU REALIZE THAT ONCE THE CAPS WERE REMOVED FROM AMERIN THEY CAN BUY THIS LOCAL POWER? "

to wind no - page 2 wrote on Mar 21, 2007 11:43 AM:

" Somebody from the opposition should have assigned topics to each speaker so that repetition would have been eliminated. Nobody likes to have their time wasted with repetition and the ZBA is no exception. Your lawyer said on-camera that you were limited to 5 minutes (not true) She conveniently forgot to mention that earlier speakers went on for hours at a time. If you were a later speaker, you should be mad at the early speakers that sucked up all of your time. In the end, you have nobody to blame but yourself for your lack of planning and coordination. The lawsuit is without merit and will be thrown out when the judge discovers what really happened, versus the spin put out the opponents claiming they were denied due process. "

to;to for sale wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:45 AM:

" Now I see how the American Indians were tricked out of their land to. "

To: Wind No-Page 1 wrote on Mar 21, 2007 10:15 AM:

" Funny, I didn't realize the public was suppose to get together to "coordinate" their message. A group called I2P did. Everyone (the public) was allowed to speak...as they SHOULD be! "

Wind no wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:49 AM:

" To Neil Armstrong@Psychedelic disco wind farm University for environmental studies Ellsworth Campus...you missed this gem I found while doing research in the Ellsworth Campus library concerning the wind farm issue. It was written centuries ago by Confucious who wisely stated....."It is much better to break wind than to farm wind'".... Just wanted to add to the sense of humor you add to the discussion. Thanks for your wit and much needed comic relief. "

To Wind No - Page 1 wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:29 AM:

" ...The ZBA bent over backwards to accomodate you. Invenergy had speakers that each spoke on specific topics...the message was coordinated so that repetitious messages were eliminated. The opposition's early speakers spoke their minds for hours on end which is fine...but unfortunately due to a lack of communication, subsequent speakers covered the same material OVER AND OVER AND OVER. The ZBA told later speakers to cover new material...but no, they insisted they had a right to be heard (for the 10th time) about the nuances of "blade flicker". Speakers became mad when they were cut short for saying the same things....(the ZBA understood the 1st time. They didn't need to hear it 10 times!!). The amount of time given to both sides of the issue was the same (6 days each)-however the opposition had 1 full session at the 1st meeting back in December). So don't blame the ZBA for your lack of coordinated and coherent message. "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Mar 21, 2007 9:10 AM:

" The County Board has shown themselves to be the prostitutes that they are. Wave a fistfull of dollars in front of them and they will do anything you ask. Ask yourself these questions. Are the world's finest agricultural lands worth destroying for a little energy that won't be used in this area? Are your taxes going to be reduced because of these monstrosities? Why are just a few getting the financial benefits when the many will suffer? "

TO: "Good sportsmanship ... " wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:35 AM:

" "In the end, the opponents had no real strategy" Strategy for WHAT??? The County Board is put in place to PROTECT the citizens and the citizen's rights of McLean County. There needed to be a strategy to fight a biased board and ZBA??? Their needed to be a strategy to fight with both arms tied behind the backs?? Because that is EXACTLY what this county did by not allowing FULL testimony from the opponents!! There needed to be a strategy to overcome prejudice against the CITIZENS and TAXPAYERS of this county??? THIS WAS DONE BEFORE IT GOT STARTED! The county is making $$$ from the wind farm - to Hell with its OWN citizens!!!! "

Question: wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:23 AM:

" To all of you people that feel that it is OK to just put anything (in this case a wind farm) you want close to someone's home on property that the the farmers own and pay taxes... What happens if that something is a Garbage Dump??? What happens if it YOUR home that it is going next to? Especially only 800 feet away??? "

Wind no... wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:17 AM:

" Wind farms make poor neighbors. The Ellsworth project is in a area with few residential non paarticpating parties and hence no opposition to speak of. The knee jerk reaction I read from people who think the opposition is just a bunch of NIMBY whiners don't realize that the Mclean ZBA is allowing these turbines to be sited by roads and homes at distances which are closer than even the manufacturer recommends and also violate IEPA recommendations for setbacks for the noise issue. The ZBA board hearings were one sided in favor of the energy company. It was like watching a submissive puppy roll over and show its belly to the alpha male. That's why there is a lawsuit. "

To Observation, wrote on Mar 21, 2007 8:02 AM:

" Perhaps one reason is that most of the constructed windfarms are located in desolated and unpopulated areas. And actually, if you do a little research, you'll find that there are people complaining. The more windfarms that are built - especially in populated areas, the more you're going to hear complaints. Get used to it, wind farms are being planned to cover our IL countryside from Bloomington to Rte. 80 and beyond. "

Ellsworth Volunteer Hose Brigade Captain wrote on Mar 21, 2007 6:36 AM:

" to: call your real estate agent now! wrote on March 20, 2007 11:33 PM: Well Said... "

to: call your real estate agent now! wrote on Mar 20, 2007 11:33 PM:

" the pricing of the homes in the ellsworth / arrowsmith area have not went down. they have remained the same or went up. living in the area of a wind turbine makes a better place. no sub divisions will be moving in and you get to live in a rural area where there is no noise from traffic, load radio's, or the nuts of city life. "

Observation wrote on Mar 20, 2007 9:13 PM:

" I wonder why it is, that the folks who live around already established wind farms across the U.S. have few complaints about them???? You never hear this bantering from them, do you. "

to call your real estate agt now wrote on Mar 20, 2007 8:25 PM:

" Naw, they arent. you need to stop crying wolf & mind your own business "

Confucius@Psychedelic disco wind farm University for environmental studies Ellsworth Campus wrote on Mar 20, 2007 8:20 PM:

" Those that know, respect their neighbours and the environment. Those that don't covet. "

To its not over wrote on Mar 20, 2007 8:16 PM:

" Better a wind farm then a hog farm. "

To It's Not Over wrote on Mar 20, 2007 8:02 PM:

" The board did exactly what is good for the county and its people. Stop being a baby and get your head out of the sand. "

Alan Wallaby J.D. wrote on Mar 20, 2007 7:12 PM:

" Melissa McGrath J.D. Is one of the finest attorneys I know. I being a marsupial of diminutive size find those wind mills horrifyingly. "

To: Its not over wrote on Mar 20, 2007 5:43 PM:

" Somtimes its best to deal with the devil. It often is a true outcome than to deal with a person who hides behind god. But still in god we trust.. "

call your real estate agent now! wrote on Mar 20, 2007 5:41 PM:

" If you get the wind farm up there better dump your house now. Check out the house values in and around Ellsworth after the wind "farm" went up. They are in the tank. "

It's Not Over wrote on Mar 20, 2007 4:56 PM:

" If it takes every penny I have.... this is not over. The process is flawed, the public's interests are not being protected. If anyone thinks the wind energy company has the public's interests or environmental interests at heart they are complete fools. This is about money...BIG MONEY for the wind company. If these turbines are built, I will use every ounce of my being to keep public funds from being used to take them down...so save your money now suckers...you are going to need it later...you have made a "deal with the devil." "

Its a positive change. wrote on Mar 20, 2007 4:42 PM:

" To all of you that are against the wind farm. Go back in your cave rub two sticks together. start your fire and create some green house gasses.... "

CASH wrote on Mar 20, 2007 4:13 PM:

" THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT ARE UPSET ARE THOSE WHO ARE NOT GETTING CASH FROM THE DEAL. I GUESS YOU SHOULD HAVE BOUGHT DIFFERENT LAND. "

Good sportsmanship ... wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:56 PM:

" Requires that the losing team walk off the court with some dignity and shake the other team's hands. I hope the kids aren't watching because there are some adults behaving very childishly. In the end, the opponets had no real strategy (just waste as much time as possible). Remember the old four-corner offense and how it almost ruined college basketball? The opponents used up all their time asking nonsensical questions of experts, instead of developing their own coherent message. And to those who don't know, electricity, like water ... is usde where it is created first and then if there is excess it flows in other directions where it is needed. "

To: to appeal wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:26 PM:

" HaHaHa....Did you buy a law textbook before your trial? HAHAHA. You're delusional! That might work for something simple like a parking ticket or some minor complaint, but your playing in the big leagues here and they don't lob softballs. But, hey go for it!! Represent yourself....you'll be ground up like hamburger! HaHaHa!! Watch re-runs of Perry Mason or Matlock....that'll help too. HaHaHa!! "

to: appeal????? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:20 PM:

" Doesn't matter how close the vote was. I appealed a case that had a unanimous vote and proved in court they were wrong. I did not hire an attorney. I represented myself. No lawyer got rich off of my case. It cost me $138.00. The judge ruled in my favor. It cost the county THOUSANDS of dollars only because these people think they can do as they please and everyone is supposed to live with it. Get ready America. Before long, you will have no rights left at all, so you better protect em while you got em. "

To Bob and Ha Ha Ha wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:16 PM:

" i agree with you 100% "

to Farmer's Land Right? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:14 PM:

" EXACLTY They pay the taxes on their own land and if that is how they see fit, then so be it. "

to:Hilldweller wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:14 PM:

" go back a few weeks and some women had the right to speak and made a fool out of herself and the rest of the people that are against the wind turbines. when acting like a child you are treated like a child. seen not heard. "

to: For Sale wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:12 PM:

" how many companies in the USA are or have been bought by companies or investors from outside the US. A large number of stocks are owned by people or companies outside the US. That is business, someone comes along with a bigger check book and things are sold. If someone came to you and offered enough money you would sell your house, car, etc. We all live to make a profit and companies do also. It goes that way because big business people want it too. "

to: appeal????? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 3:11 PM:

" Doesn't matter how close the vote was. I appealed a case that had a unanimous vote and proved in court they were wrong. I did not hire an attorney. I represented myself. No lawyer got rich off of my case. It cost me $138.00 to file and my time. The judge ruled in my favor. It cost the county THOUSANDS of dollars only because these people think they can do as they please and everyone is supposed to live with it. Get ready America. Before long, you will have no rights left at all, so you better protect em while you got em. "

To: To: Clerk wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:56 PM:

" Yes I am from rural Arrowsmith. And aside from a few dissenters and I mean very few. We keep getting along. Roads are torn-up and there is a lot of traffic, but when they leave we'll have vastly improved roads that didn't cost the township. Our children enjoy watching the towers go up. We marvel at the people that drive through the area watching the construction. And I have stood amidst 4 running turbines and could not hear them running. If I want to make a sport out of the hypocrisy I witness on these blogs... well I have as much right to comment as you do. "

Farmers land right? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:51 PM:

" Hey if the farmers want to sell these to put in THEIR land then who cares where the money goes? It isn't a city dump it's windmills! They are not causing any public harm so if you don't like it tough! How would you like it if your neighbors started telling you what you could and couldn't do with your property? Deal with it! "

To: To: To: It's Not Over wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:50 PM:

" What melodrama!!...I think you spend too much time watching lawyer shows on TV. The only one's who will be paying out of their pockets will be the homeowners who are dumb enough to continue following the herd that's headed over the cliff....keep paying the lawyers...you'll just wind up broke. Face up to reality. "

Who will it help? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:39 PM:

" And who do you think is going to benefit from the energy being produced? Haven't heard about any of it staying here. "

Farmers land right? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:36 PM:

" Hey if the farmers want to sell these to put in THEIR land then who cares where the money goes? It isn't a city dump it's windmills! They are not causing any public harm so if you don't like it tough! How would you like it if your neighbors started telling you what you could and couldn't do with your property? Deal with it! "

To: TO: To: To- I just don't wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:28 PM:

" I might be paying taxes, but trust me it will be worth it to me. i agree with Bob and HA HA HA!. you are probably a non smoker too!! "

For Sale wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:23 PM:

" How many of you know that the Benson Wind Farm has already been sold to Iberdrola, a leading private electric utility based in MINDRID,SPAIN. It hasn't even been built yet. Talk about selling out. Now we know where the money will go plus who will be incharge of the rates. Enjoy the rent money folks! It's a matter of time. "

To HA HA HA and bob wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:22 PM:

" Love ya both!!! Amen!! "

To: To: It's Not Over... wrote on Mar 20, 2007 2:18 PM:

" You are a fool if you think the "system" worked in this case. The one that posted the message was correct... This was a done deal before it EVER started. It WILL have to go to court before it will be corrected. Be prepared to pay and pay dearly because your county government did NOT work for you, they worked for the outside big business. They have made so many mistakes along the way that there will be HEFTY fines and large payments made OUT OF OUR POCKETS!! "

HA HA HA wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:56 PM:

" Bob you are sooo right!!!! I'll bet these are the same people who pushed the smoking ban through!!!! How does it feel when it happens to you!!!!! Just like you will never go to the bars you banned smoking in I will never live where these are so I support them 100%!!!! "

To: It's Not Over... wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:54 PM:

" Yes, it is....you're just fooling yourself. That's it. Keep fighting until the last dog dies and your pockets are empty. You can moan, complain and throw temper tantrums because you didn't get your way, but in the end the system works (although you don't think so). I've heard about enough whining about how things were unfair.... "

The Blews Brothers wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:42 PM:

" scrolling...scrolling....scrolling....scrolling...Keep moving moving moving though their disapproving keep them dogies movin Rawhide "

TO: To: To- I just don't wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:41 PM:

" 'I have no concern for birds and bats that carry diseases.' I almost thought your next sentence was to say that you were concerned about the environment! You just want "cheaper easier energy because costs keep going up and up and most peoples salaries DON'T". Then why are you for this??? These wind farms are costing you BUNDLE!! And, YOU DON'T GET TO USE THE ENERGY (if anything) THESE THINGS PRODUCE!! "

It's not over wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:19 PM:

" If you think it is over, you are wrong. The vote was set before the hearings began. The real story is going to come out in the courts. This is NOT going away. The people getting injured are NOT going to lay back and enjoy it. The system is flawed. The decision was flawed. Our government did NOT represent the people, they represented big business. This is NOT over. Make no mistake about it. This is not over...this has barely begun. "

To: To- I just don't wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:18 PM:

" Who's to say who the experts are on the website you suggested. I have no concern for birds and bats that carry diseases. What I am concerned for is finding alternatives to cheaper easier energy because costs keep going up and up and most peoples salaries DON'T. "

Hilldweller wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:15 PM:

" There is a lot of public opinion that is pro-wind. The homeowners produced mountains of evidence to prove the wind mills will negatively impact the area. Did the county board actually read any of it? Both sides should have had the opportunity to speak to the board prior to the vote so the high points of the finding of fact could be highlighted. The board meeting was awfully short. It looks too much like a rubber stamp. "

To: 'To - I just don't... ' wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:14 PM:

" Save your breath and your fingers typing. These clean energy people are morons. They don't want to do any homework! They don't want to invest any extra time and effort. If they did, they would already be screaming about this and how much MONEY it will cost THEM to have allow a company to come in and ruin our farmlands and our countryside!! These people are cattle and have been 'told' (by the people that are take the $$ our of their pockets) that this is a good thing. That is all the proof these people need! "

to: Figures wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:14 PM:

" If people are so interested in protecting their homes and property, why are there so many homes with piles of useless junk sitting around? And my biggest issue of what don't I understand is how people can just hire an attorney and think they will get somewhere. "

What's All the Fuss? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:08 PM:

" I just don't understand what all the fuss is about. So some farmers want to grow wind on wind farms, big deal I say. When I was a kid we had all the wind we wanted, we didn't need any fancy "farm grown" wind to keep us breezy! "

bob wrote on Mar 20, 2007 1:03 PM:

" Now you know how the smokers feel!!! "

To Clerk wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:47 PM:

" It's sad. Every time I read one of your posts you are egging on this confrontation. Are you someone who will live under these large turbines? Are you someone who will receive money from this project? Are you for or against? Instead, it appears you just want to bump up the emotions in this sad situation. And that you enjoy toying with those emotions. "

Have yet wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:40 PM:

" I have yet so see any where, in the world a negative impact from wind farms. The only valid complaint is how much energy they produce. They stand a good chance here of pruducing enough to make it worth while. WE have start somewhere folks. This is good for Mclean county and the Country. "

To - I just don't... wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:36 PM:

" If you don't understand, then take the time to look into it! Try www.wind-watch.org. It's a place to start. You might discover that the wind energy industry IS "green". The "green", however, has nothing to do with clean energy...it's the"green" that goes into the wind industry investor's pockets. YOUR tax money (from alternative energy tax credits). The energy that's produced is minimal and goes out of state. "

Figures... wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:33 PM:

" Someone in an earlier posting wrote 'What is so awful about these wind farms?' No one will know because of the way the county and the county board handled this situation. If you think that the 'FACTS' came out at the ZBA, you are SADLY mistaken. The wind farmers got to give every piece of opinion and unsupported fact they wanted to. It was all taken to be Gospel. If the residents said something, they needed to be supported by physical, hard evidence and experts had to be hired and flown in. This whole process was a JOKE. The county board and ZBA is there to protect the people it screwed over. And they screwed them BIG TIME!!! There is no harm wanting to protect your home and biggest investment. That is all that these people wanted to do. I hope that the board can sleep tonight. They do have a MUCH higher power to answer to on this matter!! "

Appeal if you like, but... wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:33 PM:

" The only thing your doing is making your lawyer much much richer. Lawyers love to keep these things going. This is much easier money than chasing ambulances. 7-0 ruling in the ZBA and 17 to 1 in the county board....give it up, you've got 1 vote out of 25...not very good odds for you. Get on with your life, you'll be much happier! "

ONLY IN AMERICA wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:14 PM:

" People complain we use too much energy and when someone does something about it people complain about not wanting it..... Tari Renner must be up for re-election because he was the only one who voted " No ", go figure a Democrat wanting to hold up progress in McLean County.... Al Gore would be disappointed..... "

I just don't.. wrote on Mar 20, 2007 12:10 PM:

" understand why people fight things like this. How do you go out and get an attorney and do this? And further more why do you want too? What is so awful about these wind farms? Don't you think we need to seek better ways of energy and living? They are not that ugly. Not near as ugly as some homesteads with all their old junk just sitting around in the middle of no where. Why are so opposed?? Does this attorney get paid to fight this issue and if so who pays them? Maybe money could be better spent!!! "

Finally wrote on Mar 20, 2007 11:57 AM:

" a step forward for this area. Time to think our future, not just today. "

Neil Armstrong@Psychedelic disco wind farm University for environmental studies Ellsworth Campus wrote on Mar 20, 2007 11:56 AM:

" One small foot print per wind turbine...one giant leap for mankind. "

Appeal???? wrote on Mar 20, 2007 11:38 AM:

" Why would you appeal? It's not like the vote was even close. Why waste time and money trying to stop the inevitable? "

Clerk wrote on Mar 20, 2007 11:38 AM:

" Let the law suits begin! "

!! wrote on Mar 20, 2007 10:20 AM:

" yay!!! what a great step for the future of our economy! bring on the better energy sources. let's break the addiction! "

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