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Not Stupid wrote on Nov 8, 2007 9:34 PM:

" its actually a conspiracy between the car companies and the oil companies, they're in bed together, from gas to even maintenance on cars. Why do you think cars get below 30 MPG still?. My 87' CRX got 40 mpg, nowadays only hybrids get that "

roger wrote on Aug 29, 2007 11:50 PM:

" I work at a gas station/mini mart , we are responsible for various duties. cooking deli,cleaning,cashier,ect... Sometimes we are all by ourselves. Once in awhile we encounter a gas drive off. I`ve ask for a camera to be positioned towards the pumps, But I am told no, they can`t afford it. The owner and manager insist that the pumps be turned on at all times to be a convenance for the customers. I want the pumps to where I authorize them or the customer pre-pays, because if I`m by myself in the kitchen cooking, I can`t keep an eye on the pumps. My question is , can my employer legally make me pay for gas drive offs out of my pocket ? So far I`ve only had to pay for $6.00 ( probably a motorcycle or gas can). A co worker had to pay over $50.00. Please help, is this legal? "

The Bottom Line wrote on Jun 1, 2007 6:49 PM:

" Why does everyone ignore "Record Profits" post? Can a Bushie please respond? Thank you. "

Gas poor wrote on May 31, 2007 6:56 PM:

" My husband and I share rides to work to try to save a little on the gas bill. We live in an area town so we make our trips count. When we get off work we do our shopping. When we go to work in the mornings we look at all the cars, trucks & suv's on the road that have only 1 person in them and we wonder how can they afford the gas to ride by themselves. They must own stock in the oil companies. "

Have the inmates taken over ? wrote on May 31, 2007 5:35 PM:

" I have taken the time to read all this, and the ones that really get my goat, are you folks that yell "Supply and Demand". If you brain stems had a case, there would be gas lines around the block. Truth is, no matter what they charge, they have all the gas we need. The supply is managed by the oil companies to keep prices high. Diesel goes up in the winter time because we use heating fuel, when we have a mild winter does the price go down, Hell no. Gas goes up before Memorial Day for no other reason then we, the driving public use more. If half the people stayed home would the prices go down, Hell no. Why does it go up twenty cents at a time, and then come down two cents a day ? It's called INCREMENTALISM, they get us used to $3.35/gal. and when they drop the price over a week to $3.20/gal. we think it's a deal. Oil has gone to bed with the politican, and the only ones getting screwed are US-WAKE UP ! "

BlogHog wrote on May 31, 2007 12:43 PM:

" Yesterday I witnessed $3.29 in Bloomington, $3.49 in Litchfield, and $2.96 in St. Louis. It's a crap shoot "

Record Profits wrote on May 30, 2007 6:04 PM:

" The oil companies are receiving record profits. Perhaps the increasing price of gas is engendered by nothing other than good old greed! Before Bush and his cronies occupied the White House gas was only a $1.00 a gallon. To me it seems as though a 300-400 percent increase in the price of gas is a bit unnecessary! Who are we Brazil? "

No gains without pains. wrote on May 30, 2007 4:42 PM:

" No gains without pains. The massive exploitation of earth's resources to suit a hurried unhappy greedy lifestyle is the cause of high gas prices. A gain of fall in gas prices can come about with the pain of becoming more austere, sober and disciplined in lifestlye, habits and wants. "

Revolution So Long wrote on May 30, 2007 4:39 PM:

" Every factor in the environment is ripe to effect a revolution, revolutions that come intermittently in the history of the world. It is incumbent upon each one of us to usher in radical changes collectively to be a part of this revolution. We should step by step minimize the use of gas until eventually we do not use gas at all. If you have the power to do the following: Start doing it: -Grow and use local grains and milk only. -Establish, encourage and run local production and manufacturing only. Do not buy from outside what you can get from a local manufacturer. Ultimately, when everything is manufactured locally, there will be nothing to transport from outside. -Use horse carriages, or bicycles only for transportation. Start a horse carriage taxi business. -Give loans to every household to have their piece of land where they can grow their produce and take care of cows. Extra milk of the cows can be used by the household. -STOP COW SLAUGHTER. GOD LOVES COWS. "

JD: To Debbie wrote on May 30, 2007 4:21 PM:

" Where do you think the owner operated gas stations get their gas? Do they have their own refinery in the back yard? These people get their gas from the companies that own the chain gas stations. It does not matter where it is bought, the money goes back to the same source. So choosing where it is bought is a moot point in the economics of the situation. "

Debbie wrote on May 30, 2007 1:28 PM:

" Dear readers, If everyone would boycot all the larger gasoline companies (i.e. Mobil, Shell, Circle K, Pilot, Exon, well you know who they are) and buy only from owner-operated gas stations, the big boys would have to lower their prices. I know the little guys are the same price as the big companies, but they have to keep up with them or lose money. Stay away from the larger companies and watch how fast their prices fall. Or, they should let us start riding horses LOL. "

K-9 wrote on May 29, 2007 5:03 PM:

" Ban the use of oil for personal transoprtaion is the wave of the future. laws protect non-smokers from the pollutants from second hand smoke what about second hand fuel emmisions. Where is my rights being protected from breathing your smog?.......... No oil no war plain and simple. "

high gas wrote on May 28, 2007 9:50 PM:

" i work as a caregiver. The company pay 25 cents a mile . Its hard to buy gas. So the people that has to drive a long way the price of the gas just kills the purse. They need to get the gas prices to be at a good price. Why should the gas station have to charge the high prices to make the money. "

Need a loan for gas wrote on May 28, 2007 9:40 AM:

" Everyone is so willing to blame SUV drivers for the gas prices. What about the big motor homes on the road? What about the boats on the lakes? What about the big trucks hauling campers? Some of them use diesel fuel, but that is an oil product same as gas. I think it is time to quit complaining and start looking to other sources for our gas. Whatever happened to the E85 plants that were going to go up? What about the kids in Pontiac (?) that made bio diesel out of used cooking oil? It is time to stop depending on foreign oil and start looking for a gas source here in the USA. "

To Burton wrote on May 27, 2007 2:32 PM:

" I hope he is just mocking conspiracy nuts. I would hate to think someone who actually thinks like that can vote. "

to: To Burton wrote on May 27, 2007 11:01 AM:

" I think Burton is mocking the conspiracy nuts. If so, that's good because they need to be mocked. "

Big Foot wrote on May 27, 2007 8:45 AM:

" Big Foot does exsist, he lives in Funks Grove. You haven't seen him? "

To Burton wrote on May 26, 2007 7:22 PM:

" Wow, What are you smoking, to think there is logic in your statement "as proof that this a secret project note that the government never mentions these refineries". Using your logic, bigfoot must exist because he has never shown himself?? "

To Burton wrote on May 26, 2007 3:37 AM:

" You really don't believe that do you? "

Burton wrote on May 25, 2007 8:01 PM:

" the fact is that there have been secret refineries built in this country over the past few years but there existance has been hushed up by the powers that be so that the gas made at these facilities can be given- yes, given- to the power elite including the hollywood types who driveon free gas provided by the government most of the refineries were built under the clinton administration this is a little known fact that the public is not supposed to be awhare of. as proof that this a secret project note that the government never mentions these refineries, do they? "

Fat boy slim wrote on May 25, 2007 7:39 PM:

" vehicles would get better gas mileage if there weren't so many fat people driving them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

Driver wrote on May 25, 2007 3:25 PM:

" What does it matter the type of car. We should be worried about why the price is so high. I doubt it has anything to do with driving SUV's! "

to to "practical" wrote on May 25, 2007 8:40 AM:

" Believe it or not, people are still buying the gas guzzlers. I went last weekend to trade my gas guzzling minivan for a wagon. I paid $22,000 for the van, got back $20,000. While leaving for my test drive, others were leaving for their test drive in giant SUVs. Unbelievable. "

to Earth's problem wrote on May 25, 2007 8:35 AM:

" I'd shoot myself in the head before I became a 10th century dirt farmer. "

Earth's problem wrote on May 24, 2007 5:10 PM:

" Earth's problem is not population growth, but a degraded population growth. This degraded population innocently and greedily wants more and more, leading to more and more exploitation of Mother nature. Mother Earth can support many more times the size of current population, if the population lived per the ideals of simple living and high thinking. Simple living, being vegetarian, many people engaging in agriculture, surviving on local production of grains and milk, and not using gas. Staying engaged in serving one another and chanting God's names. That way even 10 times the current population can be supported. "

to "practical" wrote on May 24, 2007 1:49 PM:

" I agree that the earths biggest problem is populayion growth, however; consider this. As of the last census, the United States had achieved practically zero population growth. Almost the entire growth of this country was due to immigration. (both legal and illegal) Also, SUV stands for "sport utility vehicle". If you drive one for commuting, or as basic transportation it is an ego driven decision. You must realize that more and more you will be seen as selfish and foolish. Want proof? Ask a car dealer how much you can get for your trade-in. "

Economics wrote on May 24, 2007 10:40 AM:

" Why is the price of gas going up? Are oil companies spending more money on research on how to pump it out? Just how are their costs going up? "

to To all the SUV haters wrote on May 23, 2007 2:30 PM:

" It sounds like you have a Crossover vehicle, like a Pacifica or that hideous thing that Tiger Woods advertised, not a true SUV. True SUVs sit on a truck frame and get less than 20mpg. I could be wrong though. The guys with the huge V-10s are few and far between and most legitimately need them and use them for work. Its not like the single person driving a 3 ton SUV to his desk job at the Farm. "

WHY?? wrote on May 23, 2007 12:36 PM:

" Why hate on SUV'S?? Minivans and Vans suck the gas too!!!!! "

To all the SUV haters wrote on May 23, 2007 12:28 PM:

" Um, I have an SUV and I get roughly 24-26mpg, so how is my SUV a "Gas Guzzler"??? And anyways, why does it matter what a person drives and why point fingers at the SUV drivers?? What about all the heavier trucks??? For example Ford F450 V-10, its a gas guzzler but i dont see anybody hating on those trucks, or any other type of trucks for that matter! All the people that are pointing fingers at the SUV drivers and any other "gas guzzlers" are just jealouse because i and all other suv drivers can easily afford the payment, insurance, gas, and maintance. Sure, I hate when I have to fill my car up every week and it costs me roughly $45, but there is really nothing that i can do about it. I work in Bloomington and live in Colfax, so i have to pay whatever the cost of gas is. "

I NEED TO DRIVE A SUV wrote on May 23, 2007 5:27 AM:

" I Drive a nuclear powered submarine to work. I bought it on Ebay. It gets great mileage. "

another cup please wrote on May 23, 2007 12:34 AM:

" I got gas in phoenix a day ago and paid $3.06/gallon. "

ES wrote on May 22, 2007 6:33 PM:

" You do not like the high price of gas? Well then, blame George W. Bush and his inane ideas. "

To: I NEED TO DRIVE A SUV wrote on May 22, 2007 4:22 PM:

" If all your neighbors shaved their head and wore vikings hats with horns on the top would you have to do that also?? Go out and buy your kids a ps3 also, everyone else is. Hey why you are at it cheat on your spouse and let your kids do whatever they want, everyone else is doing it so it is O.k. It must be rough to have to follow what everyone else does. Try thinking for yourself someday . Try and get those 2 brain cells you have left to quit fighting with each other. Good day. "

JD wrote on May 22, 2007 12:56 PM:

" I love how the mentality of the area of helping everyone, protecting everyone, baning stuff to protect people, suddenly changes when it is something they want that is threatened. Now people want to say "it is MY right to drive an SUV", and "I can afford it, who does it hurt". Just goes to show that socialism put everyone on an even ground, even in gas consumption. This is what happens when you start telling others what they should be doing, you eventually get told yourself. "

Re: control what you can wrote on May 22, 2007 12:10 PM:

" I need to drive an SUV. There is just no way around it. All my neighbors drive them so I have to as well. I don't see the problem with that. I drive myself to work everyday, run to lunch, and do an errand or to after work. I can afford the gas so who does it hurt? "

Look wrote on May 22, 2007 12:52 AM:

" I am trying to be political when I was talking about Obama. I was merely saying that we the tax paying citizens should have the right to know what the cost of any politician is that represents us by going to a website and seeing who is donating what to who. When we say no and the politicians say yes I just want to know how much that vote costs me. I am a small business owner. So walking taking the bus or riding a bike is not an option for me. However and unfortunately when I get squeezed the costs have to go somewhere. We all pay whether you ride your bike or not. "

To; control what you can wrote on May 21, 2007 5:47 PM:

" Wow, a post that makes sense.... Just wait until the people who live their lives as victims read it. You know, the ones that will take offense that you suggest making changes to their lives. LOL "

To thinker wrote on May 21, 2007 5:20 PM:

" Your point would be valid if the government actually spent the tax money on roads, but they steal those funds and use them on non road matters, and pet projects. "

control what you can wrote on May 21, 2007 5:03 PM:

" Can you personally control the gas prices? NO! Can you personally control the politicians?NO! Can you take the bus, ride a bike, buy a moped/scooter (75 miles a gallon) WALK?? I don't know the answer for you, I do know I can. It reduces costs and stress at the same time. It requires a little advance planning but not much. There is alot of bitching on here and no action. Take control of your life starting tuesday morning. It is not very reasonable not to use the car sometimes. Even if you have to use the car everyday a little planning and thinking in advance can save a ton of gas. Car pooling, making trips to the store , practices, appointments when you are in the same area/time. If you eat fast food, get out and go in. Take the little ones in too. think simplify my life!! "

practical wrote on May 21, 2007 4:51 PM:

" This is a sign from Earth that you all need to let up on your rabbit-like ruttin' because its natural resources are being depleted. I suggest a minimum 5-year moratorium on all procreation. "

Thinker wrote on May 21, 2007 3:58 PM:

" All of you who say that the government doesn't "deserve" the taxes you pay should protest by avoiding public roadways. Drive to work on private property. Go ahead. Whatcha waiting for? "

still waiting wrote on May 21, 2007 3:34 PM:

" I am still waiting on the people who scream the "greed" is the reason gas prices have gone up, to tell what they think goes into the price of gas? They do not want to know the truth and just pick the easy scapegoat. 52% is from crude oil. 24% is refining. 15% is to taxes. Under 9% is Distribution and marketing, and profit. The only greed is that of the GOVERNMENT. You can read on the internet and find out what really goes into the price. www.energy.ca.gov/gasoline/gasoline_q-and-a.html ; www.factsonfuel.org/gasoline/index.html : www. cnn.com/2007/EDUCATION/05/14/extra.gas.prices/index.html "

Fuh-NEEE wrote on May 21, 2007 2:38 PM:

" You people claim that the oil companies are greedy because they charge as much as they can for gas. But aren't you being greedy by wanting to pay as little as you can for gas? Hint: The answer is yes. "

BEND OVER wrote on May 21, 2007 12:50 PM:

" Just got back from FL. and the most I paid for gas was $3.03 in KY. In case we don't realize it, Illinois has really high prices compared to outher states around us. Don't be believe the stories about the oil companies, it is pure greed here!!!!!!!! "

To look wrote on May 21, 2007 11:58 AM:

" that is right, politicians do not care about you or your future. when will people stop believing what those liers say. you all know that what they say for elections is a lie. Obama, Hillary, Mccain, both democrat and republican are all lieing to you people. they will not "help" anyone other than themselves, and the special interests that pay them. They say they care about the elderly, but they tax the hell out of savings. they care about health care, but they tax and regulate the hell out of the medical providers. they care about children, but they will not make laws to lock up pedophiles for life. they care about the poor, but they refuse to force the poor to get educated, stop substance abuse, and better their circumstance. They care about Americans but they ignore Americans and pander to Illegal Aliens, they care more abut what Illegals think than American Citizens. "

to reduce gas prices wrote on May 21, 2007 11:49 AM:

" The only thing that will get gas prices to lower is to get the governments hands out of the pockets of the energy providers, and to outlaw the environmentalists that hinder the expansion of all of our energy sources. Stop all of the state mandated special gas formulations, get rid of all of the taxes the government takes (that they do not earn). start build more refineries that produce a limited amount of formulations. build more alternative energy sources (nuclear, solar, wind). explore and drill in American locations. and raise the mandated MPG of vehicles. That is the only way to protect American interests and gain energy self reliance. "

To crazy idea wrote on May 21, 2007 11:41 AM:

" You do know that would never work. All that would do is create a new market for the selling of those stamps. In essance the same as scalping tickets. There is a reason history is taught, so we would not make the same mistakes of the past, and the past shows that rationing nevers helps any situation, it only causes more problems. "

To; to Reality is wrote on May 21, 2007 11:35 AM:

" You have it very wrong, and backwards. Capitalists do not want people poor and starving, they want people working and prospering, because those people are potential consumers and if they are poor they cannot buy. Socialists want people poor and starving, so they can acquire power and have people dependant on them. Socialism only works when a weak citizenary allows absolute power to the elite for the purpose of providing for their needs, once that begins, the citizens will continue to be poor and need more handouts from the government, and those handouts will only be enough to insure that the citizens continue to be dependant. "

Barney wrote on May 21, 2007 8:40 AM:

" If you think gas costs too much, try pushing your car to and from work. Bet you'll think $3.25 is a bargain after that. "

to: look wrote on May 21, 2007 5:46 AM:

" You talking about the same Obama that went to myspace to seize a site being ran by a supporter, in order to grab the friend's list the original guy had established, and use it for his own agenda? Sorry, if he is willing to take a website for no reason other than politics, he would be more than willing to take other things. "

Rationing To Crazy Idea wrote on May 21, 2007 4:36 AM:

" Excellent idea. When I was stationed in Germany, we used Gas Stamps that we could purchase at the going rate of the day. So, I could buy $100 worth of gas stamps at say $1.00/gallon. If the price went up after I bought it, then I knew I could save more money by not driving. I wish we had something like that now here in the USA. Eventually it will get to that. Gas rationing, and then we will have a whole new set of problems to deal with. "

practical to pizza dude wrote on May 20, 2007 9:28 PM:

" Yeee-ouch! Ya got me there, pizza dude! "

Gasistocheap wrote on May 20, 2007 9:13 PM:

" I hope it keeps going up. Expensive gas is the only way americans will get serious about alternate energy. "

pizza dude wrote on May 20, 2007 7:58 PM:

" to practical;to bad your parents didn't think of that "

Look wrote on May 20, 2007 7:36 PM:

" The politicians DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU! And they don't care how much money this will leave in your pocket so long as you have just enough to send to them when it comes time for re-election. Although I am not a Democrat Obama's on the right track when he wanted to put a website together and make the politicians show where their money was coming from. At least then when we get screwed we know why and how much it took. This has been going on with politicians since before the T.V. (once we could put a face to the name). The oil companies are not the ones driving up the price they are just benefiting from it. Could they build more refineries? Yes but that takes the politicians approval and cooperation. Why is no one investigating the futures market (where the prices are actually set)? Wall street there's the real corruption. "

where...... wrote on May 20, 2007 6:13 PM:

" are Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid? Weren't they supposed to save us from just such events? I want my money back!!! "

lay off wrote on May 20, 2007 11:29 AM:

" the SUV owners...its their choice to own one. I could blame something on the people that drive those itty bitty golf cart looking cars for god knows what but I dont. Thats the problem everyone's gotta blame someone, everyone gotta be "better" than someone. Can we just work together and stop the blame? "

to practical wrote on May 20, 2007 11:22 AM:

" i COMPLETELY AGREE..too many people with 400 kids...so annoying "

? wrote on May 20, 2007 10:49 AM:

" Wasn't the liberal democrats going to fix those mean ol' oil companies? Looks to me that they are doing a real crappy job so far. Not surprising though. Talk crap and never deliver. "

1234 wrote on May 19, 2007 10:01 PM:

" I drive a Mercury Grand Marquis (big ol' V8) and my wife drives a Suburban. I also mow my lawn once per week. We "guzzle" lots and lots of sweet gasoline. However, I think it is still a bargain. Did you realize that bottled water costs MORE than gasoline. Stop your whining! The rising economies of China and India will soon dwarf our usage and drive costs up much more than than us driving larger vehicles in the USA. Another major factor driving up the cost is a lack of drilling and refineries in the USA. How about gas taxes? I'm all for reducing those! "

M wrote on May 19, 2007 4:32 PM:

" It is supply and demand. It is a finite commodity. China and India are becoming more prosperous and along with that, have more cars and also want to buy gas. The price must go up. Also, we see uncetainty in the mid east. We will have to move much more toward hybrids and vehicles that run on alternative fuels/ "

To; practical wrote on May 18, 2007 4:25 PM:

" That is very good...lmao That is one of the points a lot of people use for sympathy (wah....I have to drive my kids...wah). Hate to say it (not) but, you brought that s#it on your self. You could save a lot of gas money (well money in general) by not having any. People probably should start thinking about the consequences and costs before they procreate, that way they cannot complain. "

question wrote on May 18, 2007 4:19 PM:

" for all the people who believe there is no reason for gas prices to go up, and they should not have to pay more. Would you people please state your basis for that observation (besides profits)? Please list all the worldwide variables that you used to determine what gas prices should be. Please explain your point? How do foreign markets affect the price? number of refineries? number of different gas formulations? How does the gas price now compare to other countries? Have prices gone up worldwide? Show the numbers to prove your point. "

practical wrote on May 18, 2007 12:58 PM:

" I've found that I can save lots on gas (as well as other items like water, food, electricity, toilet tissue, dignity, and humility) by simply not having children. What a novel concept that more people should take heed of. "

RealFactor wrote on May 18, 2007 10:39 AM:

" The real factor is it's effect on the economy. Sure, you can drive a Prius and spend less, and afficionados of big gas guzzlers get what they deserve. But, goods and gorceries and plane trip and all that must also go up. Then, for every $1 extra you spend on gas, it is $1 less that you have to spend on consumer goods. So, it has kind of a vice effect on the middle class who drive this economy. "

re: good idea wrote on May 18, 2007 9:50 AM:

" You can't shame these people. They drive SUVs for the status factor. They want people to notice them. They have no shame. "

It simple wrote on May 18, 2007 9:41 AM:

" economics folks; supply and demand. The demand is high because we drive gas guzzling SUVs. If we started driving vehicles that got better gas mileage demand would decrease and so would the prices. "

Can't Do anything about it? wrote on May 18, 2007 9:33 AM:

" Well the truth is that most of us CAN do something about the amount we spend on gas short of depriving ourselves. For example, I am over 60 but I ride my bicycle to 5 miles to work most days. When we go out to eat, we often walk the 2 miles to Denneys or IHOP, etc. None of this takes gas. My wife who works across town drives our Toyota Prius Hybrid and we get 45 actual miles per gallon. What can you do? "

Crazy Idea wrote on May 18, 2007 8:28 AM:

" Raise the gax tax by a 50 cents, but give everyone a 500 gallon tax credit of $250. If you use less, then it's a bonus for saving gas..use the revenues to fund alternative fuel saving research, such as advanced materials, fuel cell/electric technology...something would need to be worked out for credits for businesses and truckers "

To Blamer of SUV's wrote on May 18, 2007 7:51 AM:

" Why do you think it is all SUV owner's faults. There are plenty of people who drive fancy 4 wheel drive trucks too. I do beleive they use just as much gas!! Makes no difference what type of vehicle you drive. The cost is rediculous period. And it is because no one does anything about it. The big companies are reporting huge profits and get away with it and keep on jabbing us with increasing the costs. EXXON is the problem. NOT AN SUV OWNER "

good idea wrote on May 18, 2007 7:50 AM:

" A neigborhood watch isn't a bad idea. Let's shame these SUV drivers for their gluttous behavoir. How shall we go about it? HMMMM. "

plain stupid wrote on May 18, 2007 7:48 AM:

" It doesn't matter what kind of vehicle anyone drives. Reality is people have to drive to work, people have kids and people have the reasons for what they drive. Bottom line is, GAS IS GAS. And the price is jut plain rediculous. MY PAYCHECK doesn't increase like that. And i am sure the people the work for gas companies paychecks don't increase either. There is no logical reason period as to this other then they can jab us and get away it. ANd the BIG WIGS MAKE BONUSES!!! SOMETHING HAS TO BE DONE!!! "

To JD wrote on May 17, 2007 7:29 PM:

" Nice try. I own a Suburban. I have 4 kids and a business that requires me to haul building materials and inventory. Why should I punished. I NEED a big vehicle. Should there be a "committee" like the infamous neighborhood watches in China to monitor my behavior and decide if my decision is justified? You guys are nuts. "

to SUV drivers fault wrote on May 17, 2007 7:21 PM:

" No, in all actuality it is the fault of people who cut their grass. what a waste of our gas resources, to cut grass. there should be a large tax on people who buy lawn mowers. "

jd wrote on May 17, 2007 7:10 PM:

" just how do you propose accomplishing this. at most gas stations, you pay at the pump. you really think someone is going to " press gas guzzler for higher price" "

to JD wrote on May 17, 2007 6:59 PM:

" JD what do you purpose is a suitable punishment for drivers of "efficient vechicles" who drive those vechicles 3 times more than the "gas Guzzlers". How do you determine actual useage. Please fully flesh out your idea because there are many variables you did not consider. "

to JD wrote on May 17, 2007 6:55 PM:

" discrimination is bad whatever the form, and this is a form of discrimination. the price of gas for one person, should be the same for everyone, it should not matter how you use it. what you propose falls into the slippery slope catagory, eventually it will lead to rationing. Once you start letting others determine what is okay for consumers to use then they WILL expand that power. but if you want big brother to rule your life and decide what you can and cannot do because of the "greater good" then do not complain when they punish or tax something you use. "

to JD wrote on May 17, 2007 6:44 PM:

" your plan does not take into account how an individual uses their vehicle. It is wrong ot punish the "gas guzzler" owner when the "efficient" vehicle owner will increase their driving because they will pay less. how much should shipping companies be assessed, and how much will their rates go up? how would that effect the costs of goods?, what about moving truck rental companies, do they increase their rates?. what about public transportation (buses) how much does the cost of a bus ticket go up (buses guzzle gas). how much are you willing to have your taxes go up to cover that? . use the post office, how do you think packages are shipped, how much do you want to pay for stamps? there are consequences that are far reaching when you try to single out individuals based on your bias against something. "

wow wrote on May 17, 2007 6:34 PM:

" gas prices are the SUV owners fault. Thats very funny, and one of the most idiotic things I've heard today. If you are going to place blame, place it on the the environmentalists who force weak politicians to regulate the oil industry (can't drill, cant open new refineries, multiple formulas for each state.). also blame those limiting the building of wind farms, and solar farms because they block their view. blame those who stifle building nuclear power. No, lets blame those who pay for their gas and drive a SUV. btw, I do not own one, and never have. "

JD wrote on May 17, 2007 3:48 PM:

" People have the right to spend their money as they see fit, they just need to ability to deal with the ramification of how they spend that money. Personally, I would love to see a tiered gas system come into play, where those being owning gas guzzling vehicles pay a surcharge on gas to offset the costs passed onto those with fuel efficient vehicles. It not only holds those being irresponsible responsible for their actions, but rewards fuel efficiency and teaches the children that choices affect them, and not always in a good way. "

To One Solution wrote on May 17, 2007 3:25 PM:

" Mess with my SUV and you'll be picking buckshot out of your tail. Promoting property destruction is irresponsible (and criminal). What gives you the right to decide how other people choose to spend their money? "

one solution wrote on May 17, 2007 12:43 PM:

" If there were fewer SUVs on the road there would be less fuel consumption. If people would flatten the tires of one SUV in their neigborhood at least once a week there would be fewer SUVs on the road. This would lower consumption and prices would follow. I think this would work better than a one day a month boycot of the gas stations. It's not the gas stations fault. It is the fault of the SUV drivers. let's address the root of the problem and go after them. "

concerned wrote on May 17, 2007 9:04 AM:

" Stopping gas buying for one day doesn't work. They know you'll be back tomorrow. We all need to stop buying gas from the major gas companies. These are Shell & Exon. If everyone does this they would drop in sales and drop their prices. This would cause others to drop prices also. To make this work everyone needs to help. Don't stop for one day , do this for weeks. "

4 Non Blondes wrote on May 16, 2007 11:16 PM:

" ZZ Top Peter Gabriel Aerosmith John Lennon Sugababes "

to JD wrote on May 16, 2007 9:46 PM:

" I'd say you hit the nail on the head with that comment. Thanks for injecting some logic into this debate. "

JD wrote on May 16, 2007 9:06 PM:

" One of the biggest problems in todays blameless society is that of convenience. People do not want to be responsible for their actions, instead choosing to blame others. If people used less oil, the price of oil would drop. Instead of being responsible though, people want to blame the oil industries and demand the government regulate things so they will not have to be inconvenienced. We have went from a country were people took responsibility for their actions, right or wrong, to a country and whining 5 year olds. "

Age 44 Bike rider wrote on May 16, 2007 5:29 PM:

" I ride every day...that is is not raining.. past the gas stations to Corporate South. I am saving on gas, wear and tear on my car, getting great exercise and arrive at work energized and affirmed that I am doing my part to fight these high gas prices. I know that I alone will not impacting the end result on the oil company but I hope to inspire others to join me. "

Prices wrote on May 16, 2007 2:16 PM:

" We, as a nation, should be looking long-term at our energy needs. We know it will be expensive in the short term to make the changes required to sustain our country; but long term, it will be worth the price. "

Think.. I think wrote on May 16, 2007 8:33 AM:

" I am sure you want people to think you have money. People with real money don't brag about it. I don't know of anyone who is paying a 800.00 dollar a month suv payment for 5 years who is happy about the gas prices. It makes everything cost more and screws up the economy. Money just causes people trouble anyway. You buy a big SUV and a big house and then your neighbor comes along with a bigger SUV and house and then what?? By the way , I think your plan about all the suv drivers making the gas prices go up is working!! Nice work GUMP. It will probably make the food prices go up as well. Do you hope everyone loses their job too. I hope they break in your house and steal all your stuff first team player. You are a real piece of work. "

SUV OWNER wrote on May 16, 2007 8:26 AM:

" If a person can afford an SUV and afford to gas it - why is it anyone elses business? "

ThosSpence wrote on May 15, 2007 9:57 PM:

" This is a fascinating exchange, revealing a good deal about the values and ethics of this very conservative community. It's clear that surging gas prices, combined with record increases in utilities prices, have brought great distress. So it's hardly surprising that people rail about the greedy CEOs of oil companies. Who could blame them? But the real issue, which is completely ignored, is that great numbers of Americans in Bush's America can barely make ends meet. Fifty percent of full-time workers earn less than $30,000 a year, hardly a princely sum. At the same time, our neo-Gilded Age has given rise to a significant population of people whose staggering wealth makes the riches of the robber barons like Rockefeller, Carnegie and Morgan, look like chump change. One hundred years ago the excesses of the robber barons ushered in the Progressive Age, when many of the barbaric features of capitalism were addressed. The very different response to the vast inequities in our age is instructive: just give us cheaper gas. Living on borrowed money, devoted to prolific consumption as the chief end of life, is it even possible for Americans to act in their glaringly clear interest? I'm not optimistic. "

I Think wrote on May 15, 2007 2:42 PM:

" I am also glad that cell phones don't work in small cars. "

To I think wrote on May 15, 2007 2:26 PM:

" I would definitely have guessed that you drive an SUV since you can flaunt the ability to afford the high gas prices. It's people like you that are part of the reason for the high prices. And to think the small cars are the bad drivers? I guess you probably haven't sat behind one of those big SUVs with the driver talking on their cell phone and forgetting that "green means go" or that once you stop at a stop sign, you CAN proceed into the intersection when it's your turn. You are so arrogant that I just have to laugh instead of get angry. "

I think wrote on May 15, 2007 1:55 PM:

" us SUV drivers should drive like crazy so the gas prices go way up and the little cars can't afford to drive and have to take the bus and that will make the prices go down and the streets less cluttered with bad drivers! HA! "

Elle wrote on May 15, 2007 1:18 PM:

" Gas just went up again this morning!! I have a car but I am driving less and less and using the bus since I can catch the bus within a block from my residence. I do encourage more people to use the BNPTS. Maybe if more people would do this as well as walking or riding a bike, we can drive the prices down. "

Re: May 15 Gas Out wrote on May 15, 2007 1:15 PM:

" So much for not buying gas today. All the stations raised their prices. "

SUV drivers fault wrote on May 15, 2007 10:39 AM:

" Suv drivers are responsible for this mess! These gluttons use unnecessaryu amounts of gasoline thereby increasing demand and depleting the supply. Using less gas would help everyone. SUV drivers should be less egotistical and think about the big picture rather than just themselves. "

More is better! wrote on May 15, 2007 8:36 AM:

" 1st off, I hate to pay more for gas, electricity, pharmaceuticals, etc! With that said though, citizens should take some personal responsibilty for the "monster" we have created. We live in a world where more is better so we buy bigger cars and houses and then complain when we have to pay the price that these items cost. If we dont like it, dont go after the companies selling the goods, change the way we live and downsize if the cost is cutting too deeply into your wallet. Let's face it, we are a lazy and irresponsible country and that all contributes to the cost of everything we consume. With obesity rates at their highest, I propose that everyone, take a stand. Let's all walk to work, pack a lunch rather than eat out, turn the TV off and maybe we would lose some weight and, in turn, not have to buy all the drugs needed to fight obesity related diseases, not to mention the gas and elctricity we would save. That will teach those money hungry oil, energy, and pharmaceutical companies! "

Re: May 15 wrote on May 15, 2007 8:23 AM:

" Sorry I had to buy gas I'm on empty and I carpool. "

To "Really?" wrote on May 15, 2007 7:31 AM:

" I prefer to be ride around in jets, just like Al Gore, live in monstrous gas guzzling homes and make lots of money for telling other people they need to stop using gas, but that job is already taken. "

Ethical economy? wrote on May 15, 2007 6:50 AM:

" Guess the corporate CEO's and Managers who get big bonuses and raises every year don't feel the struggles the real local employment base sees when they don't see their raise due to gas prices, cost of living and electical and other utilities costs rising. Its too bad.... Several really dedicated people support and travel daily to just pay their bills. Gas Prices don't bother those who make a lot. It really makes no sense for prices to be so high right now and the real employee and work base has to drive to get to and from work daily- I agree- it does not matter what you drive, (car, bike, mini-van, truck etc.). Don't underestimate the commuter base! "

Prof. Fromage Puanteur wrote on May 14, 2007 12:50 PM:

" I drive a Citroën. It runs on lemon juice. "

shouldn't matter wrote on May 14, 2007 12:08 PM:

" what you chose to drive. Bottom line is there is NO GOOD EXCUSE for gas prices to be what they are. They blamed it on conflicts in IRAN, not they blame it on repairs here in the US. Where do we get our gas and if oil is so low, then why is gas so high. NOTHING MAKES SENSE anymore period. The rich get richer the poor just poorer. We will never get a head. "

Really? wrote on May 14, 2007 12:01 PM:

" Everyone has a choice in what they drive no matter what your income status is, just may not be brand new. If you don't want to spend $60 or higher on your big vehicles, drive less, find a way to car pool or buy a smaller vehicle, these are just a few simple suggestions. For those of you who say you HAVE to have them for one reason or another, then just deal with it. I have a 2002 Tahoe which gets about 14 mpg in town. Yes it costs me over $60 to fill from empty. When I'm feeling the pinch and don't have it spend, then I drive less. Simple solution. But I'm not complaining since it was my CHOICE to have such a large vehicle. "

When wrote on May 14, 2007 11:02 AM:

" Bush took office, gas was $1.46. When Bush took office, we had no deficit. When Bush took office, we had a middle class. When Bush leaves office, we have serious repair work to do. "

DONT wrote on May 14, 2007 8:07 AM:

" dont get gas on may 15th! "

a real gas strike wrote on May 13, 2007 9:20 PM:

" Don't buy any gas during the month of June. Now THAT will show the oil companies who's boss. "

conserving !? wrote on May 13, 2007 12:06 PM:

" I think alot of people conserve like i do, but there are so many cars in B/N that it is hard to tell. My teens walk to and from school in all kinds of weather-10 blocks, always have, always will. Did you know that 93% of the people in the world don't have autos? Of course, none of them live in B.oomington/Normal! "

Me wrote on May 13, 2007 9:29 AM:

" Drive what you want. Eat what you want. Smoke what you want. Drink what you want. Act the way you want. Let God decide. I think he likes me. Onlet took 1 kid and my mother and one of my legs and I am a bad man. But I do whatever I can to help others. LIVE IT. "

remember wrote on May 13, 2007 1:14 AM:

" DO NOT BUY ANY GAS ON MAY 15th "

To Hal O Burton wrote on May 12, 2007 7:28 PM:

" Would I go hunting with Cheney? Absolutely. I'd also .... well that wouldn't be polite for a lady to say! :) "

to Hal Oburton wrote on May 12, 2007 7:25 PM:

" Can we get off this Haliburton thing already? A conservative has an interest in this company. Big deal. So what. A liberal also has an interest in the same company ( Soros). What's up with that? "

1234 wrote on May 12, 2007 1:56 PM:

" Democrats blamed Bush and Republican congress for high gas prices prior to the '06 elections. Democrats won in '06. Where are the lower prices now? Hmmmm, maybe the Democrats were just full of hot air as usual? "

to Econ 101 wrote on May 12, 2007 11:30 AM:

" Business entrepreneurs? This isn't opening a Mom and Pop corner store, this is building a billion dollar refinery. Only big oil companies do that. And like I said, why would they? They're making record profits. Why change that? "

I'm ecstatic... wrote on May 11, 2007 4:03 PM:

" That I decided to buy a 4-cylinder in 2001, and not a V-6. I've saved thousands. So can you. Next time you buy a car, look for smaller engines and better gas mileage. "

to Let Me Explainify wrote on May 11, 2007 2:56 PM:

" Very well done! Bravo! "

Hal O'Burton wrote on May 11, 2007 1:37 PM:

" To those of you who defend Dick Cheney, I have one question: Would you want to go hunting with him? "

Let me explainify wrote on May 11, 2007 1:22 PM:

" Let me explainify the war against Iraq a little bit in Texas terminology. We SHELL not EXXON-erate Sadam Hussein for his actions. We will MOBIL-ize to meet this threat in the Persian GULF until an AMOCO-ble solution is reached. Our plan is to BP-repared. Failing that, we ARCO-ming to kick his butt. "

Econ 101 wrote on May 11, 2007 10:04 AM:

" If the cost of a new refinery was not inflated by so much regulation, you would find more corporations willing to build them. (Even if only to lease them to the highest bidder.) Econ 101 - high demand attracts business entrepenurs. "

to Atticus Finch wrote on May 11, 2007 9:38 AM:

" Yes, check those EPA records. How many new refinery requests were put in in the last 30 years? ZERO. There's nothing for the treehuggers to have blocked since Big Oil didn't even try to build any more refineries! Any why would they? Restrict the supply and the price and profits go up. Econ 101. "

Dang Liberals wrote on May 11, 2007 8:36 AM:

" It's those liberals in Congress that have caused this unnecessary spike in gas prices. The oil boy from Texas by way of Connecticut, and the oil baron from Hades had nothing to do with it. The fact that the pipleline hasn't been built through Iran, yet, is those liberals fault. "

Atticus Finch wrote on May 11, 2007 8:34 AM:

" First, the summer blend is required by the EPA, so blame the EPA for that. Approximately 11 years ago the US consumption of gasoline exceeded our refinery capacity. We have been bridging that gap by importing excess gasoline from Europe (they prefer diesel). The last new refinery built in the US was in 1976 due to EPa restrictions. The high prices are caused by a strong demand for gasoline plus very tight suplies to limited refinery capacity. You can point your fingers at the EPA, legislative action taken in the 70's and your own consumption of gasoline for this folks. "

To Blame Bush wrote on May 11, 2007 7:14 AM:

" You are right, because Kerry would have done a better job. Give me a break. All of this could have been stopped if Clinton would have done is job. Really it does not matter who is in office, for some reason the oil companies are in with the government there fore they are exempt from penalties. "

shallow hal wrote on May 11, 2007 7:03 AM:

" I get a laugh everyday here in B/N when I see these super-sized fat people people trying to squeeze into tiny little cheap cars ! At first , I thought it might be because, despite their large girths lay a compasoinate, eco friendly heart that was trying to save fuel...but then I realized - they were just poor ! "

The Decider wrote on May 10, 2007 7:05 PM:

" You people need to buy stock in Hallibuton Oil and quit complaning. My oil buddies gave me over 100 million to run for president and they are going to make it back before I leave office.:~) "

To "explorer owner" wrote on May 10, 2007 12:41 PM:

" There is more passenger capacity in any mini van then your explorer. Also just how often do you have to take your dogs for a ride? mine goes to the vet a few times a year and thats it. How can we justify driving solo in a gas guzzler for the majority of our trips. You might save enough to hire a dogsitter and leave the dogs at home. Also, am I the only one that finds it a little sad that people equate animals with children? "

I'm tired wrote on May 10, 2007 12:05 PM:

" of all the finger pointing at SUV owners. I own an SUV and I'm proud of it. I don't care if it gets lousy gas mileage because I can afford it. I don't care if it causes gas prices to go up because I can afford it. I don't care if we have troops fighting a war because I can afford it. I don't care if you call me names becuase I can afford it. I don't care because this is America and I can afford it. "

It's ALL Bush's fault!! wrote on May 10, 2007 10:26 AM:

" I got married and my wife was great looking and thin, then twenty-five years laterand two kids she got old and put on weight ... BUSH CAUSED IT !! When I got married I was young and good looking with a full head of hair, now I'm old , ugly and balding.. BUSH CAUSED IT!! I went to work @ the same job for 32 years, they took out taxes and insurance.. BUSH CAUSED IT!!! This morning my oatmeal was watered down, and my coffee was cold after letting it sit to cool off.. BUSH AGAIN !!! Bush has caused all the problems in my life. Get a life President Bush is NOT the cause of all of your lifes problems. It's called a WORLD MARKET ( and price gouging by big oil and it happened BEFORE Bush too ) "

Dollars & Sence wrote on May 10, 2007 9:21 AM:

" I don't think it is the SUV's that cause the problem here but the attitude of those owners. Here is the picture. Those people with big SUV's also have "BIG" pocket books and double incomes, have "BIG" 5k houses and have a total pumped up selfish attitude. Someone a few weeks back wrote in one of the comments that instead of upsizing to bigger homes we should downsize to smaller homes. Afterall large homes have hig fuel and electric bills. Also with smaller homes there would be less cleaning time, less up keep, smaller yards and landscaping, which in turn would allow for time with their precious children that they let other people raise with nannies or let them run the streets driving SUV's and fancy expensive cars. We Americans are gluttonous, selfish, pigheaded people who could care less about how to solve high gas prices we just want our sweet high-life so we can all look good. Why? So we can hide behind our insecurities. Just think of the perosnal debt reduction this country would have. "

gas prices! wrote on May 10, 2007 8:18 AM:

" lets face it people gas is never going down and unless we all decide to start walking everywhere we will be paying a high price to drive. we spend $70 a week for our van.yes it is one of the bigger models on the market but we have 6 children.moaning and crying isnt going to do any good and boycotting gas station wont prove anything.get rid of BUSH, now maybe that might help! "

Support the Gas Strike wrote on May 10, 2007 7:45 AM:

" Please don't buy gas on 5-15-07. I know it won't drive down the price of gas and the oil companies won't care. However, I work in a gas station and I want to get that day off. If it's slow that day, my manager might let me go early. So, please don't buy gas on 5-15-07. Thanks! "

Learn to Drive wrote on May 10, 2007 7:02 AM:

" Common you people don't NEED the 4x4 or AWD vehicles to make it through an Illinois winter. I've got a rear wheel drive sports car (which also happens to get about 30 mpg hwy) and I make it around just fine. If the roads are bad enough I can't get to where I want to go, then I should NOT be out on the roads... period. Now don't get me wrong, I think you should be able to drive whatever you want, this is America, but I see many single drivers in large SUV's every morning. "

crazy mom wrote on May 10, 2007 6:36 AM:

" In 1997 by boycotting the gas stations, actually lowered to price about 35 cents to following day. the only way the big oil company understand. They want to hurt our pocketbooks, let hurt their again. how come detriot can send china the same large van with better gas milage, than we can buy here? "

Idea wrote on May 10, 2007 3:22 AM:

" Do you really want to make a difference. DO NOT TRAVEL OVER MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND! Stay home. If we really want to make a dent don't travel. The one day gas outs do nothing. "

Blame Bush wrote on May 10, 2007 12:00 AM:

" If you people did not elect Bush,there would be no war in Iraq. So either Blame Bush or Blame Yourselves. "

"EXTRA EXTRA"... wrote on May 9, 2007 10:12 PM:

" ... The SUV and Big Truck owners owe nobody an explanation. So many are unaware there are paid polital hacks (all across the country) (some up to $30,000 a year) that surf blogs. they are paid to shift and form public opinion. And to ridicule dissenters. Ex: Those against "illegal invasion", extreme taxation, bans, forced inoculation(s), 911 truth, North American Union and anything eles that threatens the establishment of the push for globalization, global government. Dought me ? type "new world order quotes", you will read "their own words" the plans in store for "YOU". "

Explorer Owner wrote on May 9, 2007 9:48 PM:

" So, I have an Explorer. I also have 2 VERY large dogs (2 saint bernards). Please explain to me what CAR my dogs will fit in together? To anyone thinking "get rid of your dogs", FINE, then you get rid of your kids. To me it's the same thing. I can't have kids, so I have 2 big dogs. I don't complain about paying $60.00 for gas every two weeks though, either. "

To 6:37 a.m. wrote on May 9, 2007 5:53 PM:

" I'm still not giving up the truck. It's the only vehicle we have and what I spend on gas won't make a car payment. Ley Bush give up his. "

TO: Do you think wrote on May 9, 2007 6:37 AM:

" You're right in the sense that "dubya" is part of the problem. Once we went to war he had the responsibility to do everything necessary to see that we win. That includes making sure the general public is engaged in the war effort as well as the troops. Part of that engagement would be fuel conservation, and keeping petro dollars out of the hands of the terrorrists. If Bush would have shown some leadership in this area we might not be seeing the high gas prices we are now. But you don't have to wait on Bush. You can do the right thing without him. Support the troops by conserving fuel at home! "

driver wrote on May 8, 2007 8:37 PM:

" I have been "granny" driving alot lately. Not flooring it when excelerating, not slamming on the breaks just before the stop. It has helped my mileage quite a bit. THe people behind me get upset but Oh well..... I got better gas mileage that way. "

Do you think wrote on May 8, 2007 6:57 PM:

" if we quit pointing fingers at the suv's and big trucks and tade a look at your own drivig habits we might just all save a little gas? How many of you small vehicle owners jump in your little car and run to the grocery store three blocks away when you could have just as easily walked? I drive a big truck and limit my trips to town maybe once a week. The money I spend on gas wouldn't even make a car pyment. When "dubya" gives up his big vehicles, then maybe I will to. "

Power of words wrote on May 8, 2007 3:47 PM:

" Everytime you look at a pump just say the gas prices are coming down to $1 a gallon "

CC wrote on May 8, 2007 3:30 PM:

" 2.75 in Corpus. It still cost me 22 to fill up on a half tank of gas, and I was driving a Kia. "

Jane O. wrote on May 8, 2007 3:13 PM:

" I don't understand why eveyone in Illinois wouldn't drive a SUV due to all the blowing snow you all have in the winter. I would think that type of car would be a necessity not a luxuary. "

TO: Don't call me unpatriotic wrote on May 8, 2007 3:08 PM:

" Aw just slap a support the troops sticker on your ol SUV if that will ease your consience. Or put a flag decal on your widow or a "W in 2004" bumper sticker. That make's everything alright. "

I think wrote on May 8, 2007 3:01 PM:

" the point they were trying to make about it being un-American to drive an SUV is that SUVs use more fuel than necessary. Sure everyone uses some fuel, but if oil money is funding terrorism then don't we want to use as little fuel as possible in order to limit helping the enemy? Sure it' your right to drive what you want, but do you really want to help the terrorists? Let's face it there are relativiely few people who actually need an SUV. I suspect if the government were to ration gasoline so that everyone had the same amount per month 95% of the SUVs would disappear. "

Clearly.. wrote on May 8, 2007 2:59 PM:

" .."W" needs to make sure his pockets are full when he leaves office. So, gas goes up! Unfortunately, he has some deep pockets...and when his pockets fill up, he uses his Dad's pockets! "

SUV vs cross-over wrote on May 8, 2007 2:50 PM:

" An SUV that gets 22 mpg is not an SUV. It is a crossover vehicle. Unless you are driving a diesel, the 22mpg standard SUV does not exist. (maybe a four cylinder at 55 mph, but how realistic is that?)That being said, if you own a farm, and need to drive off road, you are part of the 2% of the owners of four wheel drive off road gass guzzling vehicles. The people who drive gas guzzlers for vanity are endangering that one year old childs future more then any bike ride. "

Don't call me unpatriotic wrote on May 8, 2007 2:42 PM:

" I believe it is much more Patriotic to Drive an SUV than it is to buy any foriegn vehicle. That is my opinion and because I am Patriotic I have a right to it. You can argue that foriegn vehicles are assembled in the USA and create jobs here, that is not my argument. The Profit still goes back to Japan or where ever the company is based. These foreign manufacturers are hurting GM, Chrysler and Ford like you won't believe. No I don't have the answer, there is the argument foriegn being so much cheaper, the bottom line is we caused that. It all comes down to this, The Rich get Richer because the rest of us are fighting amongst ourselves over trivial issues like who drives what. We should work together and address some other issues. Fuel for thought, state workers assigned to mow the ditches are chauffered to their mowers one at a time in a big dump truck getting 5 mpg, even a gas guzzler SUV would haul four or five at a time for much less. "

SUV vs Mini Van wrote on May 8, 2007 2:22 PM:

" Someone said it is Un American to drive an SUV. Bull! Isn't America the land of the free, to make choices. SUV"S are allowed to be built and sold in America. If a person can afford to drive one, in America they have that right. Some opinions are based on lack of info. Think of these facts (as opposed to opinion.) Standard mini van, 3 row seating, 2 adults, 6 kids, some athletic equipment in the back, put this thing on a scale and I will bet you are over the manufacturers GVWR making this unsafe to drive down the road. As for the comment on SUV's being roll over hazards, its not the vehicle that rolls over, it is the driver. Now lets crash test these babies, how many want to ride in the mini van? My point is if you don't know WHY I drive an SUV, what right do you have to call me Un American for doing it? "

Very Interesting wrote on May 8, 2007 2:07 PM:

" From the comments on this board I have learned: All SUV and Pick-up drivers are grossly overweight. Every family can fit comfortably into a yugo sized vehicle. Mini-vans get 50% better MPG than any sized SUV or truck. It is either Bushs fault or Clintons fault. Everyone hates State Farm employees or at least their badges. One can save a few bucks on gas by spending several thousand on a new(er) car. Gas is either inelastic or liquid, but certianly more expensive than it used to be. "

Blame Who wrote on May 8, 2007 1:58 PM:

" If the gas supply was a problem, wouldn't the "gas guzzlers" be banned? The real blame goes to those who can but won't do anything about it. Lets face it folks, the SUV's are not the problem, Manufacturers are forced to comply with restraint and emision standards, don't you think if there was a real issue with supply there would be tight standards on it, The blame is with who is profiting from it. Right around 1980 gas went from 65 cents per gallon to $1.25 in about 6 months because of a "gas shortage." If that was true we would have ran out by now. They give excuses and call them reasons. Oil companies and there political partners are now investing in ethanol and biodiesel so they can profit even more. "

Re: SUVs unpatriotic wrote on May 8, 2007 1:41 PM:

" Unless you never drive a motorized vehicle or ride in one (including a bus, plane, train) then you're little point is not valid and means nothing to me because you're trying to single people out who drive a style of vehicle you don't like. I think you're arguing with emotion rather than logic. Fact is, we're all users of petroleum - it's also used for home heating, plastics, etc... I think we need better energy policies in this country (including higher mpg standards for vehicles) instead of pointing fingers at each other. By the way, I'm not a fan of the SUV either, I drive a Honda Civic, but it uses gas too. So I'm every bit a part of the problem just like the next guy. "

Big Willy wrote on May 8, 2007 12:37 PM:

" I need a truck because I'm a big (but lovable!) guy. I can't fit into those little cars that get the great gas mileage. HOWEVER.. I limit my trips when I drive my truck, I have a motorcycle that I use for my unecessary running around, and I am building (yes.. fabricating from the ground up) a 'quad bike'... a 4 wheel bicycle (think pedal go-cart) that I will start to ride to work one complete. I hope to ride it enough so that someday... I can not only AFFORD a vehicle that gets good gas-mileage, but also maybe by that time they will make them to fit EVERYONE.. not just the 'typical' average sized person. "

SUVs unpatriotic wrote on May 8, 2007 12:04 PM:

" As noted here by another poster "Most of the oil in the world belongs to bad people who do bad things with it". Driving a gas guzzling SUV is unpatriotic!! What do you think these bad people, such as Iran, are doing with the money they make from your excessive gas usage? Fund terrorists who kill our troops that's what!! Think about it the next time you fill up. "

Re: Bike rider wrote on May 8, 2007 11:32 AM:

" I applaud your use of your non-gasoline guzzling bike, but I simply don't feel comfortable bicycling my 1 year-old son across town to daycare each day before work. Sorry, but driving a vehicle is my best option. I do own an "SUV" by definition but it's a "compact." I get about 22 mpg - not great but decent. As a homeowner I also use it to haul goods and material across town. My family owns a farm so I also use it out there for part-time work in "off-road" situations and hauling stuff. Sorry, but some of us really do rely on these things for family and work purposes. PS - I used to drive an old mini-van and the darn thing got maybe 19-20 mpg. You do the math. "

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