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rosemarie wrote on Jul 7, 2007 11:50 AM:

" To Catholic Too: Take the JUST FAITH 30 week program and learn about peace and justice in our church,. Also check on what Pope John Paul II and Pope Gregory has said about the war. Check with your local parish pastor. Good luck on your research! "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 5, 2007 1:35 PM:

" America should abandon the Truman Doctrine and allow the Communists to take over where conditions make it justifiable. It doesn't matter any longer to me what happens to uninspired and ungrateful people all over this planet. There are just too many backward cultures which are content to live their lives in technological absenteeism; they have no desire for personal improvement. Those cultures are not worth 59,000 American boy's lives. Iraq is different. Iraq is a rich nation, relatively educated, technologically advanced, with a viable infrastructure in need of overhauling. Iraq has the potential to be an integral ally and partner in the mid-East for many generations to come. It took the United States from 1775 to 1789 to fight a war and establish a working government. That's 14 years for the best and brightest people on the planet; I think we, Americans, can be tolerant of the Iraqis for taking more than four years to accomplish the same thing. And, yes, it will be worth the sacrifice our miltary troops are making; just ask the overwhelming majority of them, if you don't believe me. "

To Yada Yada wrote on Jul 5, 2007 4:02 AM:

" So the U.S. should have kept fighting in Vietnam and thousands more would have died. Just brilliant!! Btw a republican was president when the U.S. pulled out of Vietnam. "

Give Peace a Chance wrote on Jul 3, 2007 8:25 PM:

" Excellent ! ! ! "

Hey Yada Yada wrote on Jul 3, 2007 3:44 PM:

" I will think some things while demonstrating. I will think about the fact that I was lied to by my incompetent President so he could convince everyone Iraq was a threat. I will think about all the sheep, like yourself, who continue to live in the past, but fail to learn from it. Vietnam was not winnable. If we stayed there, we'd still have troops being killed by the VC today. The same is true in Iraq. We are the oppressors and they will kill us until we leave. To quote the great Kenny Rogers, sometimes you gotta know when to hold em and know when to fold em. In Iraq we're playing Two Seven and we're up against pocket Aces. It's time to fold and bring our boys home. By the way, your service in Nam was honorable and I'm sorry your leaders got you into that unnecessary war that we could not possibly win. "

For Yada Yada wrote on Jul 3, 2007 3:43 PM:

" Since you compared Nam to Iraq, I have a quick question. Did the Communist keeping coming? So, if I use your logic in comparison, the Communist would keep coming and start Communist takeovers of countries. Check your history books because it did not happen. Since Communism is no longer a credible threat, one can infer that it perhaps never really was. And before you blame the Democrats, let us not forget that Richard Nixon escaladed the war while Johnson was removing troops. "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 3, 2007 9:35 AM:

" All the ad hominem comments won't change history; America was thrust into the Vietnam war by liberal Democrats and when the fighting got prolonged and bloody, too many Americans didn't have the will to win, so liberal Democrat politicians cut-off the war funding. It was a clear-cut victory for Communism and a disasterous defeat for the nation that proudly claimed to be the champions of freedom for all. As it turns out, all that talk by Americans about freedom was nothing but blather. It hurts to be a part of something that cost the lives of 58,000 of my generation, but, moreover, it enrages me when I contemplate, in the final analysis, those guys died in vain. Its sad and remorseful when a soldier dies in Victory; its a tragedy for one to die in defeat. Victory or defeat, the choice is yours. But, if we cut-n-run in Iraq, like we did in Vietnam, this enemy, extremist Islam, will keep coming after you. Deep down in your heart, you know it. Think about that when you are demonstrating. "

ES to Bob wrote on Jul 3, 2007 6:49 AM:

" Spitting on a shoe? Now it has been reduced to that, which I also question as perhaps they spat on the ground. That aside, the hippie maggots as you refer to them were more than likely protesting a war, not you. Besides, if you wish for me to accept the "spitting" incidents, than the other myths that all soldiers were heroin addicts and shooting innocent villagers must also be true. I do not believe that the majority of our soldiers were coked out of their minds and randomingly and wantonly killing innocent people. If do not believe that Urban Legend, than I do accept the others, I am assuming you are not hooked on drugs and not a murderer, so why are the other myths true? "

To Vet wrote on Jul 3, 2007 3:29 AM:

" What purpose did the VN war serve? "

The terrorists are on their way loving the rallies! wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:39 PM:

" Try demonstrating against them. Give them plenty of notice. Recruit with letters to the editor. Then, when a car bomb goes off in the middle of you, you can say you did your part in our war against terrorism, just as our troops are in Iraq, Afghanistan and no telling where else away from home. The only reason I want them back here is because we need them to fight terrorism here. But, one safe place to be in a war against terrorists is in a rally protesting the people they hate...our government and, yes, any crowd of women, men and children of the United States. Temper your ideals with practicality. The terrorists are planning something big, flashy and explosive and protest rallies in favor of being chased out by them only strengthens their resolve. That's the parallel with Vietnam...only this time, there are no draft dodgers and If I see someone spit on one of our returnign soldiers, I personally will send them to the hospital. "

Attend the rally and please the enemy wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:24 PM:

" Our troops will be home soon enough to find enemies within. The more "rallies" like this one, the more the enemy will be emboldened. Have you not paid attention to the attacks in England? How many of the same Islamic extremists are there already here? How many of the Muslims here who believe suicide bombing is "blessed" in defending their faith plan to help or join the terrorists? I guess the demonstrators won't be satisfied until they're dodging suicide bombers here in the USA. Yes. Get our troops back home by supporting them there AND HERE because we're going to need them and the experience they're gaining in Iraq and Afghanistan. Just relax, protestors, they'll be home soon and you'll be cowering. What are you going to demonstrate against then? Try protesting terrorism and extremists giving good religions a bad name. "

to Peacenic wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:08 PM:

" Yep, the invasion and occupation of Iraq have really shown our strength and we now have peace and tranquility here and abroad. The world is now afraid of us, so we no longer need to be in Iraq. Let's come home. "

To ES from Bob, wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:14 PM:

" The spit on my shoe while walking through LAX was not my imagination. Nor were the insults or taunts by the long haired maggots at LAX and Ohare any kind of a dream. For me they were very real. I too wore my uniform when I came home from Viet-Nam, from the time I got off the plane at El Toro Air Base til I got home in Dwight Illinois. Not wearing the uniform was only a suggestion by those in prossessing at El Toro. If you think it's an urban legend you have been listening to too much liberal B.S. "

Peacenic wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:12 PM:

" Peace at any price? Lay over and play dead? Have we not experienced peace in our land since 9-11? There is a price for peace and it is by showing our strength. "

To Rosemarie wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:34 PM:

" Please help me understand: how will attending this rally help end the war? "

For To Bob from ES wrote on Jul 2, 2007 5:55 PM:

" Oh please. Liberal college professors? Stopping Communism? Perhaps you should see the Why We Figt video and understand that events surrounding the Gulf of Tonken was fabricated as well. Grow up and admit the truth; VN was a politicians war that endangered real citizens for no reason other than political greed. Your paranoia does not change that. No one here has insulted Bob, most of us have pointed out that the spitting incident is yet another exaggeration of that senseless war. The current conflict scares most citizens because we do not want to risk young people's lives for political greed. Bush got what he wanted, as he was re-elected. Now he needs to get us out. "

To Bob wrote on Jul 2, 2007 4:22 PM:

" Thank you, Sir, for your service in the U.S. military. Whenever I see someone I believe is a Vietnam Veteran, my heart wells up with pride and appreciation for their love of country and at the same time wells with silent tears as I think about how they were treated by some of the ones they were there to protect against the cancerous onslaught of communism. With all the responses you received I had to find out what you wrote. I have to say your post was honestly true about the Vietnam Veterans in general and made more sense than all the silly liberal responses. Among other things, such as Jane Fonda and media, it is because of the embarrassing behavior of our college students, driven by liberal professors, who exhibited hatefulness to our Vietnam Veterans, which sometimes included spitting on them, upon their return home that caused America to open its eyes to the evilness of these hateful attitudes and demonstrations, as well as the long term damage it can and has caused many of our Vietnam Veterans. Again, thank you for your service, and thank you for your honest comment. "

rosemarie wrote on Jul 2, 2007 4:15 PM:

" to patriotism: thanx for planning to come to the rally on July 19to help end the war "

Me to: Jon to Bob wrote on Jul 2, 2007 4:14 PM:

" Well, I for one woule think it a great place to be without the likes of those who know not telling those who have how things are. Simply put, Jon, you pegged it correctly with your comments about the "weak, uninformend" getting in the way. Whether you have served or not, you can still be weak and uninformed. However, those who have served, usually have gained enough experience to know the score. You, on the other hand don't even know the name of the game. And yes, as a defender of this country and all it's "rights" he does have the "right to say what he wants, and that includes telling you to shut up! Whether you are smart enought to listen or not remains to be seen. "

Jon to Bob wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:07 PM:

" I'm glad your brave service to a failed foreign policy grants you the entitlement to tell everyone else to shut up - how liberating! Wouldn't it be great if you military people ran the whole country without us weak and uninformed civilians getting in your way? "

to Native wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:44 PM:

" If you care about Sudan so much, how come you support the invasion of Iraq, a country that did not invade us? Did the Iraqis ask to get their country torn apart by us? Why are we not in Sudan, where there is an apparent genocide going on? Perhaps the neocons that you follow do not share you interest in Darfur. "

Yogi wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:20 PM:

" I wish I could believe all the posters who are saying that the 60's are over. Seems to me that they have returned, or as Yogi Beara would say; "it's deja-vu all over again". We are fighting an unjust war in a way that cannot win, sacrificing our under-privledged kids and making our defense industry rich. Maybe it's not Rose who needs to move on. You can learn from history or you are doomed to repeat it. "

to yada yada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 2:04 PM:

" Your comments have no credibilty, regardless of your stance on the issues. Or in simple language, you don't know either side! You seem to have time to stir the pot, thus having a good chuckle. You really need to get a life, but then, you seem to fit the mold of people who hide behind blogs. "

BN Republican wrote on Jul 2, 2007 1:24 PM:

" I'm certainly not with you or your Holy Crusade. "

Vet wrote on Jul 2, 2007 1:15 PM:

" VN served a purpose...the Cold War ended did it not? VN was a battle of the Cold War. There are a lot of Janes Fondas on the Chat. "

Native wrote on Jul 2, 2007 12:58 PM:

" So another hypocrite speaks and wants to protest. You claim to support the troops but your actions say otherwise. Did you know that the 60's are over, and we do not need to relive them. I see you do not care about the Sudan or anyother hot spots. More people are being tortured and dying in other places and you do not care. Because you can not blame Bush. "

Patriotism wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:28 AM:

" I'm very patriotic. I love this country and have a loved one serving in Iraq right now. I'll be at this rally so don't tell me its only for the unpatriotic. When you see your govt doing something wrong, you have to protest. "

Well Yada Yada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:25 AM:

" Gotta go with Richard Lugar. "Lugar is calling for what the Iraq Study Group recommended, a shift of U.S. combat brigades out of action and out of country, turning their duties over to the Iraqis." Although leaving will not be pretty, (as if it's pretty now) I also agree with Lugar that staying will make it worse. Your solution Yada, which is like absentee machoism, is to stick around and get our military bled to death and our coffers emptied for no pragmatic cause. Hang in there Yada, "democracy" is just around the corner in Iraq, lol. No wait, that's a car bomb. "

Catholicism wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:17 AM:

" But the Church is against the War and you can't argue that. This is not a just war. Just War is the only time the Church would condone killing. World War II was a just War. Vietnam was not. To the guys talking about people spitting on the troops, that just doesn't happen anymore in our society. So don't talk about it like it could still happen today. If someone spit on the troops today, 10 people would rise up to help the soldier whip their you know what. So don't make that part of the argument. To the Islam haters, we're not in a Holy War. Stop trying to argue that! Most Muslims do not believe in killing people of other religions. A minority of that religious sect hold those beliefs. Stop spreading lies. "

Cavewoman wrote on Jul 2, 2007 11:09 AM:

" And how will this demonstration help end the war? All this is is a gathering of people who are unpatriotic and don't support our troops. Shame on you... "

Boy wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:56 AM:

" Yada Yada really loves war, even bad ones. He even talks about cut 'n run in Viet Nam, like it would have served some purpose to get another 50,000+ troops killed for nothing. One has to wonder where Yada Yada served, and why he is not in Iraq now as we communicate. By rights, all those who love this brilliant Iraq invasion should be first in line to jump into the fray. "

GC TO: to GC wrote wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:44 AM:

" I did not say cut funding I said the politician's did, I also said go a site and prostest your views on the war. You can also say dont cut funding at the`same time like I did. I support our troops even though they maybe in war thats not just or right. "

Paladin wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:36 AM:

" ...YadaYada, can you be a bit more specific regarding your statement about fighting "this enemy (as though there were only one) anywhere and everywhere..."? If we can't afford to continue the current campaigns, indefinitely, what makes you think we can afford to expand them, to include possible punitive engagements against Iran, Hezb'allah, or anyone else? You want everyone else to provide a "solution", yet what you are proposing is no solution, at all. Can you flesh out your proposal a bit, so it doesn't seem to be merely continual war against every State with a Muslim population, some of whom are extremist? We certainly can't afford THAT, either economically or politically. "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:14 AM:

" Dear "Zorro", or is that "Zero". Where'd you get the idea any of the soldiers herein glorified war? Just read the words. Don't try to spin them. "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:09 AM:

" Dear "Bad Argument", Weeze waitin fo YO solution. Do enlighten us. "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 10:05 AM:

" Dear "to YadaYada", that is not a legitimate pen name for use in the Pantagraph blogs. Use your own pen name in the 'Name:' block. If you have the right to categorize persons as "idiots", reveal your bona fides to do so. Its apparent what your IQ is, but I would be particularly interested in your experience in foreign diplomacy and/or military experience. "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:47 AM:

" Dear "Laughing Bones", let me see, your 78 year old pappy was 12 when WWII (407,316 Americans killed) started, so I doubt he served in uniform. And, I'll bet you weren't drafted during Vietnam by a Democrat president (Johnson) and Democrat Congress to go fight in a Democrat war conceived pursuant to a Democrat (Truman) doctrine, did you? I WAS! Back then, Communists didn't bomb New York City and Washington, D.C. like radical Muslims did today, so why did Democrats like Roosevelt, Truman and Johnson, send American boys to fight Nazis in Europe and Communists in places like Korea (33,651 Americans killed) and Vietnam (58,193 Americans killed)? And, why did the Democrat Congress CUT-N-RUN in Vietnam? After all, Democrats started that war. You said, "those were confusing times"? None of us who served in uniform were confused. I wasn't confused when I was called "baby killer". Lastly, in America, power is not taken back. Power is inherent in every American and is exercised at the ballot box. Your ilk got beat at the ballot box in 2000 and 2004; deal with it. "

Bad Argument wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:42 AM:

" The old "weeze fightin' 'em there so weeze don't have to fight 'em here" is really a bad argument. Have you people thought this through? "

Zorro wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:30 AM:

" War protesters, DON'T be discouraged by the postings on this site! If it had not been for protesting, Vietnam would still be going on today. Instead of 58,000 dead, the total may have been 4 times that. To protest is an American's right. The war is WRONG! Keep the faith, this insanity must be stopped. I have never heard of, or read about, a soldier that glorified war. That nonsense only comes from "chicken hawks" like the ones that post on this site. "

to Bob wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:29 AM:

" The military really was not for the Iraq invasion Bob. Much of the military is not for it now, Bob. Military leaders tries to warn us in 2002-2003, Bob. It was in fact non-military types and people with 5 deferments who foamed at the mouth over the Iraq invasion, and who continue to grip a losing course for the American people. "

to GC wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:28 AM:

" You cut funding for the war, it makes the troops safer? How? It pulls them out of the middle of the Iraqi Civil War. With the possible exceptions of Detroit or the West Side of Bloomington, anywhere in America is safer than Iraq. "

Oh BN wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:27 AM:

" I still shake my head when I read what many of you write. I believe around 65-70% of the US public no longer supports the war (liberal and conservative). I don't.. it was a mistake. If Bush would use diplomacy as part of this war, maybe we would see better results. Instead, he has alienated the global community, and continues to act like a bully on the playground. I support the troops, but I don't support the president. It is also good to see many of you "Christains" suppoting a war. It's funny how quickly you support war over peace. I truly do wonder what Jesus would do about this. I guess you don't. BN Republican... you sound just like the people in the UK trying to blow up their cars... it is impossible to make peace with fanatics such as you. Religious fervor destroys all common sense. "

to TO Support Our Troops... wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:26 AM:

" I'm pretty sure the protestors aren't preventing the troops from doing their job. Its more like Dick "You go to war with the [ill equipped] army that you have" Cheney and George W. "Bring 'em on!!! YEEEHAW!"" Bush who hurt the troops. "

to mafree wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:24 AM:

" LOL, another joker who thinks that Bush has done something to reduce abortions. HINT: He's done NOTHING on that issue. Its just a pandering point to get idiots to vote Republican. "

BN Republican wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:23 AM:

" I hope that the Bloomington Police round up these protesters and turn them over to the Department of Homeland Security. Make Immigration can send them to Iraq since they love it so much. "

to YadaYada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 9:22 AM:

" Are you one of those idiots who thinks that Bush's War has anything to do with 9/11, other than 9/11 being a convienient excuse? "

YadaYada wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:42 AM:

" Readers should never believe anti-war demonstrators are showing deep respect and support for our military troops. America's troops view such demonstrations as aiding and abetting the enemy! I know because I was drafted and served in the Army during the Vietnam War when anti-war demonstrations became a routine part of American life. Currently, a relentless enemy attacked New York City and killed some 3,000 American residents. Today, America is on the defensive. As a peace settlement, our enemy has demanded that all persons in America either become Muslims and live under Islamic law, or die. The only realistic alternative is to fight this enemy, anywhere and everywhere. So, do we fight a determined enemy over there, or, fight a determined enemy over here? I opt to fight wars anywhere but on American soil. If there is another viable solution, I would like to hear it. "

GC wrote on Jul 2, 2007 8:17 AM:

" I’m sorry you wish to do this all you will cause is hate for the men and women in or services. The other protest of stopping the wars did the same thing. It first drew the attention of the politician. They made it hard for the troops to get funding so they could protect themselves. It turned the troops against their leaders. It caused people to throw thing and spit on the troops. I was in the service from 69 to 73. I was a felt what protester caused, I also saw and felt what it was to help a country try to be free. Viet Nam was a draft war this war is not they enlisted they new they could be called on to defend us and others needing help. Do not shame them by this want to protest write letters place signs. I hope some country would do the same for us if we had the same thing happen. "

TO Support Our Troops... wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:43 AM:

" Support Our Troops... by shutting up and letting them do their jobs. Let them fight them across the world instead of across the street. Sure, war is not popular, it never is, but if the US didnt go over there, life could be alot worse than it is now. If Bush didnt do something, then instead of complaining about war, you would be complaining about him for sitting on his hands and watching the world go to hell. Argue that my friend! "

Laughing Bones wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:11 AM:

" I'll come and bring my kids, I think it is important for them to see that as Americans, though we may not be a democracy anymore, we still have this right at this time. Hopefully the republic will let it stand. I support bringing our troops home. However, I say keep the contractors over there, as a matter of fact send more, let them train and keep the peace. We need protection on the home front. As for all you who have served, thank you. I'm sorry some of you were treated so unfairly I would say those were confusing times. This Iraq invasion is wrong though and any nation we invade with out provocation is wrong. Worse than Bush...nope can't think of anyone he take the cake. Views of my 78 yr old Dad. Take the power back. "

How much did Mahmoud Ahmadinejad pay you wrote on Jul 2, 2007 7:03 AM:

" to write that letter? "

to Zorro wrote on Jul 2, 2007 6:56 AM:

" Apparently you have missed the fact that Cindy Sheehan gave up and went home because she was surprised that she really had no real following. Only liberals were exploiting her. She finally caught on. Most liberals have no clue about anything but their latest cause. They do not realize that there is some good and bad to everything and you have to know which to emphasize for one's best interest. That is the part in which they usually fall short. They only focus on their main interest not the common good of man in the big picture. "

Hmmh wrote on Jul 2, 2007 6:52 AM:

" Who are those doing the bombings in the UK? Oh, I forgot the Sunday school kids. If we pull out of Iraq with our tails between our legs we will have to act like that for many years and those Sunday school men and women will just be able to do whatever they please. Cause who will try to stop them. Oh lets see let us give them some more territory to terrorize and then look the other way while they make life miserable for the occupants. And by the way we don't want those occupants here who can't stand the country in which they live. I wish people could put two thoughts together to make one whole thought and come up with a strategy of their own to combat terrorism instead of the one they have which seems to be ignore, ignore ignore and stick your head in the ground. "

to: to ES from ES wrote on Jul 2, 2007 5:53 AM:

" AND there were a lot of soldiers that returned from VN that WAS NOT PO'ed at the goverment. Speak for yourself! "

SPITING DID HAPPEN wrote on Jul 2, 2007 3:29 AM:

" to say otherwise is just crazy.....I know since I was there. Try reading Homecoming by Bob Greene "

Jim wrote on Jul 2, 2007 1:53 AM:

" I wore my military uniform during the Vietnam era when traveling and was never approach by a civilian. That was in the San Francisco area and as you know they were a different breed. I'm not trying to say that other servicemen weren't spit on, etc. but I don't think it happened as often as some people want you to believe. "

william wrote on Jul 1, 2007 11:54 PM:

" "We are all Co-creators as We walk through Time"................What? "

ThosSpence wrote on Jul 1, 2007 11:25 PM:

" The war in Iraq is lost. It is a disaster beyond description. What is truly obscene is the sacrifice of American boys and men for the premise that somehow, at sometime, the disasterously awful Iraqi government will be able to be address the urgent ills that have torn Iraq apart. Get a clue, big thinkers: the war is an utter travesty! We have squandered the lives of thousands of Americans, wasted enormous American treasure and made conditions in the Middle East far, far worse than they were before. Yet again and again, the troglydyte posters here mock the right to protest, guaranteed by the constitution. I know a good deal about Nazi Germany. The posts here are far too familiar. "

Support Our Troops... wrote on Jul 1, 2007 11:17 PM:

" ...by Bringing Them Home! "

RL wrote on Jul 1, 2007 10:43 PM:

" Debate on this forum doesn't seem very useful. If there are readers who oppose this criminal war, I want to urge you to follow Rosemarie's advice. We need to build those monthly demos. Do not depend on the Democratic Party to get us out of Iraq, and keep us out of Iran. Only massive protests by ever growing numbers of citizens will bring the war to an end. And do face reality. The U.S. has already lost this war. What Ochs wrote in the '60s is true in Iraq: "Fighting in a war we lost before the war began." It's all over but the dying. More and more will die, but eventually the U.S. will leave Iraq as it left Vietnam. "

Ahh wrote on Jul 1, 2007 10:20 PM:

" the world will just sing kumbaya once we leave Iraq. Seriously lady, get a clue. "

To Es from ES wrote on Jul 1, 2007 10:11 PM:

" Hey pal, go here:www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1276799/posts. It is considered an Urban Myth. And by the way, since when did becoming a "patriotic" Viet Nam soldier become fashionable. I lived during this time, and most of our returning vets (and that means those who came back from that meat grinder) were plenty po'ed at our government for sending them to the possiblity of a needless death. "

To Rosemarie wrote on Jul 1, 2007 9:18 PM:

" Although you have a right to demonstrate, you should think about how you ask people to join and why you are against the war. You mention the war and how would Jesus handle things. You then mention the sancredness of life and people should stand up for their beliefs. Finally, you want to impeach Bush and Cheney. Ok, question for you. Did you stand up within YOUR Catholic Church and vote to get rid of the Pope and all of those who tried to cover the scandals of rape and pedophilia in YOUR church? Did you march in front of your church every month until all priests who molested alter boys were thrown out of the church, or did you just forget that happened and move on? Just wondering. Before you throw your religion at me, look in the mirror and make sure it is safe to throw. "

What????? wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:42 PM:

" Re:"Both Bush/Cheney and Osama Bin Laden want to keep our troops in Iraq. " If you listen to OBL he wants the troops OUT of Iraq......which is just another thing OBL and the Democrats agree on.....one of many. Sorry but I wont take my advice from OBL! "

To ES wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:40 PM:

" urban myth? What are you on? See openweb.tvnews.vanderbilt.edu/1971-12/1971-12-27-CBS-17.html it a cbs story from 1971 on the spiting! Only the young or misinformed dont know about it....which are you? "

To: That will be me wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:27 PM:

" Wondering if you would think it was so funny if you had a family member over there serving? It's easy to laugh when it doesn't affect you personally "

Get It? wrote on Jul 1, 2007 7:36 PM:

" Both Bush/Cheney and Osama Bin Laden want to keep our troops in Iraq. "

To Bob wrote on Jul 1, 2007 7:11 PM:

" I served in RVN, MOS 11B20. I wore my uniform home. I was treated with respect every where I went. What planet were you on? You must be one of those "tavern heroes", that I meet from time to time. Vietnam is over! BTW, we LOST! "

That will be me wrote on Jul 1, 2007 4:50 PM:

" That will be me and my family, driving by you "demonstrators," laughing and pointing fingers. You miss the whole point. The brave men and women on the ground in Iraq are fighting these people OVER THERE, so we don't have to fight them HERE. Let 'em do their jobs and shut up. "

mafree wrote on Jul 1, 2007 4:15 PM:

" Since you bring up the Catholic Church, who are the "people of courage" that you want to impeach Bush because of being immoral? Would it be those people who routinely vote to keep abortion legal? Is putting these people in power better for Americans and unborn Americans? What is courageous about allowing the killing of unborn Americans? Just say you don't like Bush, don't pretend to have a legitimate reason for impeachment. "

ES To:Bob wrote on Jul 1, 2007 4:10 PM:

" First, cut thee nonsense, the spitting on soldiers bit is an urban myth. Admit the truth. Second, when you wrap yourself in the flag, remember it is the first Amendment that gives folks the rght to hold a rally for peace. "

Catholic too wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:43 PM:

" Her thoughts and believes DO NOT mirror all Cathoics just so everyone knows. Thank you. "

to zorro wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:25 PM:

" why don't you go ask the terrorists to stop the killing.they would slit your throat before you got out the first word "

Cold War translator: Get a Grip on Reality wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:25 PM:

" A peaceful and just global society can become a reality - What are you on? The Commies want to kill you and your family. Wake up! It's a war calling for them to do so. Unless you submit to Communism, you are not worthy of life. Did we not just stop two attempts to kill Americans on our soil? And where have you been the last two days? We have 25% of Russian youths here in this country believe nuclear war is acceptable to defend Communism. Yes, we want our troops home sooner than later. However, you can believe all you want, but if the JFK airport went up in flames, I think reality would have set in real fast. If that happened, of course it would have been all Reagan's fault. ***** Bet you spent the entire cold war hiding under your bed like a coward, just like you do now. "

good grief ... wrote on Jul 1, 2007 3:07 PM:

" The sixties have come and gone Rosemarie...go home! And for you Bob, I have heard what you went through. My gentle brother went through the same thing..he swore he would never wear it in public again. BUT he stayed in the Army reserves all these years. One weekend not long ago he was in Atlanta, Georgia and was required to have the uniform on. Some one came along and offered him their seat at the airport there. Isn't that great...its just sad tho that he had to wait all these years for that compliment. "

BN Republican wrote on Jul 1, 2007 12:38 PM:

" Only weak religions do not support war. Christians are in a Holy Crusade against the false religion of Islam. You are either with us or against us. I'm willing to die for my beliefs. Are you? "

yo wrote on Jul 1, 2007 11:48 AM:

" The Catholic Church can wish for what it wants but, you have too many repub politicians that go to the Catholic Church. They will stand behind Bush and Cheney and not behind their church. Check your local politicians and see what church they go to and see how many of them have stood up and went against Bush. As for your march see how many from your church show up. "

Zorro wrote on Jul 1, 2007 11:13 AM:

" I applaude your efforts! Americans should exhaust every effort to stop the killing. Unfortunately Bush has turned a deaf to the will of the majority, as Ms. Cindy Sheehan will testify. Pray that God will touch the president and vice president, that they may do what is right. WWJD? Heal, not destroy. "

Scareberry wrote on Jul 1, 2007 9:36 AM:

" Does this march mean the Taliban will stop or just Bush? "

LH wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:41 AM:

" Romemarie, you are truly clueless "

Rosie....... wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:28 AM:

" There are two people that have given their lives to save yours. One is Christ and the other is an American Soldier. "

London terror alert wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:26 AM:

" Ms. Scarbeary I agree that the world would be a better place if Jesus were running the show, but as he said my kingdom is not of this world. It also would be nice and compassionate if everyone would get along. The facts are there are people who want Israel to cease to exist ( as in dead), and for the name of Jesus not to be spoken. The worlds cultures are clashing as witnessed in London today. Would you be willing to change what you believe for there to be harmony in this world? Or better yet who gets to decide what is best for us all to believe, is it your belief or mine if we all want to be tolerant of ideas. The war in Iraq is stage where this struggle is active and hot. Peace is rarely achieved without sacrifice when confronting an enemy. I am not happy with the way the war is being waged, but the enemy still exists. "

Bob wrote on Jul 1, 2007 8:00 AM:

" Train for War, Pray for Peace. Thats an old saying the military uses when asked why they go to war. No one wants to go to war to die, but the military people know with out a doubt that war is sometime a neccessary evil,and in it people die. Though you say your " peace demonstration " is to bring the troops home from an " unjust war " these types of meetings almost always turn into a " blame the troops for the war " meeting. I served in Viet-Nam for twentynine months, from early 1966 to midway through 1968. When I came home I was told it was not a good idea to wear my uniform out in public because of the "demonstrators ". This is what your misguided efforts bring about. I was called a " Baby killer, and a War Monger " by you Wellmeaning People for Peace. People like you spit at me at the airports or made snide remarks while I waited for a bus or train. If you haven't "Been there and done that" then don't bitch. "

Harry wrote on Jul 1, 2007 6:32 AM:

" Cant make it Rose I am busy just like I was in 1966 and 1967 when I was serving in the military. I have benn invited to attend other meeting like yours when 'Jane' would decide to 'have a party'. But hey its your right Rose the Troops are fighting so it will remain your right. Bless you Rose. "

I'll be there wrote on Jul 1, 2007 6:24 AM:

" No Doubt the "Pro War" bunch will show up, in a counter demonstration, foaming at the mouth for The Bush Regime to attack Iran and Venezuels. This (pro-war) is the same uninformed bunch that voted for this gang of crooks to start with, and cannot accept the fact it was a mistake. The best way to end the wars is to impeach Cheney first, then Bush. Then they both should be tried in criminal court. "

lol wrote on Jul 1, 2007 5:05 AM:

" Do you even know what it meeans to be impeached? I would suggest you look it up. Even if Bush and Cheney were to be "impeached", it doesn't meen they would be removed from office. I have never been a supporter of the war in Iraq. From the very first day, when Bush, and Tony Blair appeared on national T.V. to give Saddam Hussain, and his sons an ultimatum to step down and leave Iraq, I have questioned the validity of the invasion. However, since we are there we have a responsibility to finish the job. "

Get a Grip on Reality wrote on Jul 1, 2007 12:48 AM:

" A peaceful and just global society can become a reality - What are you on? The Islamic Fascists want to kill you and your family. Wake up! It's a religious war calling for them to do so. Unless you submit to Allah, you are an infidel. Did we not just stop two attempts to kill Americans on our soil? And where have you been the last two days? We have 25% of Muslim youths here in this country believe suicide bombing is acceptable to defend their faith. Yes, we want our troops home sooner than later. However, you can believe all you want, but if the JFK airport went up in flames, I think reality would have set in real fast. If that happened, of course it would have been all Bush's fault. "

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