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20-year Livingston County judge resigns
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PONTIAC — Livingston County Circuit Judge Harold Frobish has a lot of work planned for the next year.

“My plans are to work really hard for the next 11 months, and I have only determined that, after that, I will be busy,” Frobish said. “With what, exactly, I will be doing remains undetermined.”

Frobish sent a letter of resignation Tuesday to the office of Robert Thomas, chief justice of the Illinois Supreme Court. The letter says Frobish no will longer be circuit judge of Livingston County effective July 14, 2008.

He has been a judge in Livingston County for more than 20 years.

“Judges are in the business of ending things so that people can get on with their lives,” he said. “It is a very healthy thing and it is a very necessary (thing), and with the challenges of bringing it to a close with justice. That is why this job of being a judge is very interesting work and very important work.”

Frobish was born and raised in Flanagan, where he went to grade school and high school before going to the University of Illinois as an undergraduate and then to law school. He had a private practice for four years in Peoria and then 14 years in Pontiac. In 1986, he was appointed as an associate judge and was elected in 1998 as the circuit judge. He will be 65 in January.

“I’m happy for him and I know that my relationship with him will always last longer,” said Linda Foth, chief judicial secretary, who worked with Frobish for more than 20 years. “He is one of the sweetest, kindest people that I know and the new judge will have some pretty big shoes to fill.”

The timing of his resignation was influenced by the upcoming primary election, Frobish said, allowing someone to be elected into the position rather than be appointed by the Illinois Supreme Court and then run for election.

“If he or she lost, they would no longer be the circuit judge and they would have given up their previous employment,” he said. “Reasonable people could reasonably conclude that they want to be a judge but the risk of being unemployed or exposing their family to unemployment is too great. What I did was to eliminate the risk.”

Frobish expects Associate Judge Jennifer Bauknecht will run for the position, but not Associate Judge Robert Travers.

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to to get real again wrote on Aug 24, 2007 10:44 AM:

" WOW you are sensitive arent you? I was not for the record bashing everyone on here for not leaving their names. If I was bashing you would know it, well maybe not since they wouldnt post what I had to say. My main point was meant to say that no one is going to leave their names on here. Its that simple. I am not going to and your not going to and 99.9% of others are not going to. And the most recent point is what matters! I am done with this conversation, it has nothing to do with the main issue. Judge B has my support, period. For those of you who dont know her she will be out and about and hopefully you will get to meet her and get to know her in her campaign and if anyone else runs then I hope to get to know them too and what they can bring to the bench for Liv Co. Thanks "

focus wrote on Aug 24, 2007 9:11 AM:

" i think amidst all the name-calling, those reading this story and its comments are missing the point. there is a political discussion to be had here that will affect the future of livingston county's judicial system. rather than waste time talking about who's not leaving names and e-mail addresses (face it, no one's going to do that, ever), spend time talking about Judge Bauknecht and the other possible candidates for this position. if people are worried about who will take frobish's place, then start a dialogue about the potential candidates and help educate voters. i personally have no problems with Judge Bauknecht but i don't know much about her. i don't know who else is interested in running, but what is the opinion-at-large? the point of these comments is not to be catty but to be constructive. let's get back to the discussion. "

TO: GET REAL AGAIN wrote on Aug 23, 2007 11:55 PM:

" YOU were the one bashing everyone that posted because people weren't giving their names, but you failed to do so yourself. That it all I was pointing out. I'll exchanges names and addresses if you will. I'm sure it was just an oversight on your intellectual part. "

To think outside the circuit bubble wrote on Aug 23, 2007 2:03 PM:

" Very well written! Thank you "

To: responsive wrote on Aug 23, 2007 10:19 AM:

" Sorry I didnt catch your name either?? You like to Judge other people by calling them stereotypical, but it sounds like you need to take a good look in the mirror. Are you perfect? You have never done anything wrong? You have never judged anyone before getting to know them? You cant expect perfectionism, thats unrealistic. Sounds like you should get your law degree if you do not already have it and try to become a Judge, so you know whats its like to be slammed on here. Or maybe someone should write about whatever it is you do for living, since you must be perfect at it, then we can all get on here without knowing you and bash you!. Have a nice day MS. No name! "

Think outside the circuit bubble wrote on Aug 23, 2007 10:03 AM:

" Whoever runs in the primary, I hope the voters think independently before casting their ballots.Livingston Co people are too influenced by gossip and propoganda and it's tragic.Judge Frobish is a good man however he is not a God and his opinions are that of one man and he has made more than one error in judgement.He has been admonished by the higher courts for his indignant remarks and disrespect for the higher courts and has been accused by them of undermining the justice system for making statements in court suggesting he as a trial judge is wiser than the supreme court judges.In my opinion, this mindset does undermine the entire justice system.Whoever replaces him, I hope they realize they are but one piece in the Illinois justice system and that those who live in this circuit do have recourse should justice not be received in the local circuit court. "

Responsive wrote on Aug 22, 2007 8:44 PM:

" TO: Time for Change- Guess what? I am not male or sexist. I am honest. You seem to be a little stereotypical? Just like JB and the other Pontiac patsies? TO: Get Real- Sorry I didn't catch your name. TO: Concerned Citizen- RUN JOEY RUN!! You have my support. EUREKA!! "

To: Concern Citizen wrote on Aug 21, 2007 11:05 PM:

" My checks in the mail, buddy. A BIG one. Spend it wisely. "

get real wrote on Aug 21, 2007 11:30 AM:

" Where is your real name on your post?? Are you scared? Come on, be real, if this paper made people post their real names, even if that was possible, I bet there would be little to NO comments to every article. Just the way this world works, its best to hide behind the computer in order to speak big words, just how it is and don't see it changing. "

Time for a change wrote on Aug 21, 2007 11:15 AM:

" My, my, my. The sexist males in Livingston County are suddenly out in full howl about the possibility of a woman becoming a Circuit Judge. Rather than focus on Judge Frobish's career on the bench, the knives are out for Judge Bauchnecht. The NERVE of her thinking she should be Frobish's replacement. No one else with judicial experience is being suggested, and particularly no woman. Her years in private practice in Chicago and then Pontiac don't count. "

Wondering wrote on Aug 21, 2007 8:46 AM:

" I wonder if any of you that are posting would like to share your real name with the public........or are you afraid? "

GIRL POWER wrote on Aug 20, 2007 10:34 PM:

" Well since we are going to be child like on here--, TO Concerned Citizen, I will go ahead and start up the GPJB committee! Girl Power for Judge Bauknecht committee!!!!!!!!! Its about time we have some changes in the old ways! "

talk about judging wrote on Aug 20, 2007 10:30 PM:

" If you think there has ever been a time when the "scales of justice have been balanced" then your a comedian! I dont know what shell you live under or what cloud you float around on, but it sure as heck is not in Livingston County! You must ride one of those high horses to work and only see and hear what you want and put the rest under the rugs because thats what Livingston County has done best for years. I will agree with one thing, there is not anyone I can think of that can or will fill Judge Frobish's shoes, but as for trust, well thats an issue you would have decide yourself. People like you have wayyyyy to much time on your hands or to much money or your just OLD, and by that I mean you like old ways of doing things and NO change. We shall see what happens, their is two sides to everything, isnt there! "

County wrote on Aug 20, 2007 4:49 PM:

" Despire your comments, there are many well qualified candidates from Livingston County. I have had some very positive experiences with Alan Schrock, Tom Herr, Steve Weeks, Carey Luckman and Ed Legner and any one of them would serve the public very well. Encourage them all to run for the job!! It would be nice to see someone other than the usual faces at the courthouse. It would also be funny to see Judge Baucknet's partners run against her. "

Concerned Citizen wrote on Aug 20, 2007 4:41 PM:

" I am starting the "ABJB for LCCJ" political action committee. Anyone interested in donating to the Anybody but Jennifer Bauknecht for Livingston County Cirucit Judge pac, please forward your check or money order right away! Concerned citizens of Livingston County need your support! "

To:talk about judging wrote on Aug 20, 2007 12:41 PM:

" Sounds like you're pretty tight with Jennifer.Regarding the sadness she sees in her juvenile courtroom, which I have no doubt about, just how long has she been presiding as a judge? I don't think it's been but a couple of years has it? It's too bad Livingston County has lost 3 EXPERIENCED judges in such a short time. Personally I don't know that I can think of anyone locally who I would really trust to replace Judge Frobish.Just a few short years ago the team was Frobish, Frank and Spires.....the scales of justice were balanced with the three of them presiding over our court system. I don't see Livingston County being back in that position for a long time to come. "

talk about judging wrote on Aug 20, 2007 10:33 AM:

" Best of luck to you in retirement Judge Frobish! You are a fair and consitant man and you will be missed. Now about Judge Bauknecht, why is she being Judged for what she drives? You mention one of her vehicles being a Cadillac Esc. Well if you knew her, then you would know that her husband drives that, she drives an older mini-van! As for being materalistic, how well do you know her? She is a mother and a very good one at that, she faces more sadness in that court room with her juveniles than most people do in their life. She shops with her kids in the grovery store like everyone else, she has her kids in sports and sits in lawn chairs just like us at her kids games. She tries to help people that want to help themselves for a living, her husband happens to have a very god job, so she is a bad Judge because of it? She has nice things because she worked hard for them! Perhaps some of you have real issues with a female Judge, get with the times folks! "

Tacky wrote on Aug 20, 2007 6:06 AM:

" We read that Judge Frobish is retiring. I wish him a good retirement. This world needs more men like Judge Frobish. Quality guy! What this county does not need is a Judge like Judge Jennifer (It's all about me) Bauknecht. How tacky of her to announce on the same day Judge Frobish announces his retirement that she is forming a campaign committee. Such poor taste and very tacky. I encourage Carey Luckman to run for Circuit Judge. My wife and I would vote for him even without a campaign. He is a quality man who works hard to take care of his family and home. He is not a self centered man and does not flaunt his wealth around Livingston County. Please consider running, Mr. Luckman, we need you. "

Maybe wrote on Aug 19, 2007 11:31 PM:

" Maybe Livingston County could get Blagojevich, Libby or Busch to preside since their ploitical careers are over and Pontiac seems to like the "Decider" and "Pay off" approaches. "

Cary??????? wrote on Aug 18, 2007 10:57 AM:

" Ya know, Judge Frobish is just a down to earth man who drives an older mini van to work and frequently leaves it parked and walks to work.Very unpretentious and I've even seen him drinking a beer occassionally with his dinner.He always acknowledges you if he knows your name.The current candidate for his replacement is as materialistic and phoney as they come.One of Bauknecht's vehicles is a Cadillac Escalade compared to the judge's mini-van and who would you rather have presiding over your life? There's nothing humble about that. She's spoiled and has no clue what the rest of us live like.I wouldn't be surprised if Cary Luckman doesn't petition for the job, I understand his father is a judge up north. "

Lets Hope wrote on Aug 17, 2007 2:03 PM:

" that professional etiqutte falls by the wayside and the member of her peer group speak up about what the true colors of the only declared candidate is really like and how many problems there have been with her judgements. I also hope that this is posted with the Illinois Bar Association so that some other prospective judges can move here and run against this. "

Thoughts wrote on Aug 17, 2007 1:11 PM:

" I wish Judge Frobish well in his retirement. He is a fine, fair and kind man. Livingston County is fortunate to have him as a Judge. Let's hope that others may decide to run against Judge Bauknecht. We do not need the "Queen of Arrogance" as the new Circuit Judge! "

What A Sham wrote on Aug 17, 2007 11:36 AM:

" Good Luck Livingston County on the vote ahead of you. The only judge who couldn't be had or bought, and truly remained unbiased and fair in all of his dealings, personal and professional has decided to move on. Slim chance of Livingston County being able to do so with the prospective choices ahead of them. "

seen it all wrote on Aug 17, 2007 10:44 AM:

" Lets all hope that some one any one runs against the states attorney. he should be removed from office. "

Livingston County wrote on Aug 17, 2007 10:42 AM:

" Thank God. Now all you have to do is take the whole Livingston County states attornies office with you. then maybe the two families in LIvingston County whos two dead children could get some justice. its been almost ayear for Alie six months for Travis. maybe the problem is they werent inmates in the D.O.C. "

To: Judge wrote on Aug 17, 2007 9:50 AM:

" OK Scotty you are just trying to improve your income. We had our opportunity to vote to Not Retain her in one of the last elections, which I personally chose not to retain. She is very biased against any male and has an over abundance of negative comments outside the court room on persons who she does not know except in passing. "

Judge wrote on Aug 17, 2007 9:25 AM:

" Good riddons. Judge not lest he be judged himself. Bauknecht is such a wonderful person. She is fair and kind and sweet. She is down to earth and humble. She is the answer. She is love and hope and tomorrow. She is the flower that blooms early in spring and stays till the end of summer. Good luck lady. "

Wow. wrote on Aug 17, 2007 8:35 AM:

" an article about Judge Frobish really has turned against Judge Baucknecht. That is really telling. Is it possible for the county to hold a no confidence vote on Judicial appointees? "

Bad Judge wrote on Aug 17, 2007 7:21 AM:

" She looks down on everyone who comes in to her court room without a lawyer. She even told one guy, after sentencing him, that if he had a lawyer, he would have gotten off easier. WHAT IS THAT?????? She should be removed. "

Former witness wrote on Aug 17, 2007 12:09 AM:

" Having testified in various felony cases before Judge Frobish over the years I can say that I always found him to be what I would consider, a very fair, and impartial judge. From a law enforcement perspective I found that although not every ruling he made may have been in the states favor, they were handed down in what I viewed as unbiased, legal, and just. I may not have always agreed with his position on a particular issue before the Court, but I always respected it. I'll always have a great deal of respect for his work as a whole. I wish him the very best in his retirement! "

Judge wrote on Aug 16, 2007 10:50 PM:

" Thanks Judge Frobish...! You're a class act in and out of the courtroom. I can't think of a better role model for our youngsters. Enjoy the retirement. "

To: Let's Hope wrote on Aug 16, 2007 8:52 PM:

" I wish me, you, anyone would/could run run against her. Word on the street, there is no common sense in that court room. Maybe a new judge, whose first priority wasn't to redecorate her office. I miss Judge Frank. "

Fine Judge wrote on Aug 16, 2007 4:47 PM:

" It's sad to see a fine and reasonable judge retire from the bench. Our legal system could use a lot more judges like the Honorable Judge Frobish. "

A stand up man, wrote on Aug 16, 2007 3:17 PM:

" I know I will vote for whoever runs against her,. "

Well Deserved wrote on Aug 16, 2007 2:43 PM:

" I hope Judge Frobish enjoys his retirement and appreciate that he went out in a manner in which we the voters choose the next judge rather than have an appointee like Judge B who clearly is over her head. I just hope that there is some competition so that we do not have to settle for who has announced. Stick to traffic offenses. "

Lets Hope wrote on Aug 16, 2007 2:24 PM:

" someone runs against the self proclaimed queen of Pontiac!!!!!!!! "

Bluegrass American wrote on Aug 16, 2007 2:01 PM:

" I hope that none of you come up against this guy. He is going out with a bang. "

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