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Wehrenberg’s future wrote on Sep 28, 2007 1:27 PM:

" Wehrenberg may just follow the fate of Castle Theater. "

WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?! wrote on Sep 28, 2007 12:18 PM:

" Forget the theaters, where am I going to drink my 30 pieces of Silver Bullets on Oct. 20 if FJs is closed? I guess I'll have to go to the movies. Anyway, I will add mine in like others (cut and paste): WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?! "

Gov't Opressed Mule wrote on Sep 28, 2007 12:15 PM:

" While my 2 cents may be worth exactly that. I just wanted to point out a few things. 1. Prohibition didn't work in the 20's and in fact 10x the # of people who drank, drank during prohibition. This being said, while attending several shows at the theaters we currently have (non-alcoholic ones) I have witnessed on several occassions people drinking bottles of beer. Large quantities of them and getting so rowdy I had to complain. So even though these places didn't allow it, it was still in the theater. So I would rather have it regulated by the theater (as they are more inclined to do something as they are losing money.) than completley banned. One more choice being taken away in the name of "freedom." I honestly laugh at this word now as we've turned the meaning to gov't opression. Let FREEDOM ring! "

bhs fan wrote on Sep 27, 2007 8:39 PM:

" Just a wonderful idea!!!!!! "

to Tank the Frank wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:31 PM:

" Why don't you just go to where you normally go watch movies...and how many of you drink that beer at home in front of your kids!! At $8.00 a pop, who is going to buy that many beers to get drunk on? You just don't know how many people sneak it in there anyway! "

DUH wrote on Sep 27, 2007 2:28 PM:

" For those who don't want the beer there...continue to go to the theatre you go too...quit complaining so much....who in their right mind will pay 8 bucks for a beer??? "

Wake up pin heads wrote on Sep 26, 2007 8:57 PM:

" Do you witless people choose not to go to the Coliseum because they serve beer? Do you choose not to go to the Center for the Performing Arts? To any restaurant in town? Do you choose not to shop at Wal-Mart or Kroger or Schnucks or Meijer because they sell beer? Do you even notice if a restaurant serves alcohol if you don't drink? Do you notice if the other patrons are drinking? If you took the time to demonstrate responsible social behavior to your children... including the proper consumtion of alcohol, or, for that matter, chocolate, they would learn much more than your silly attempts to ban it. The harder you try to make it a "bad" thing, the more the kiddies are going to want to try it. Ask any psychologist. "

ConanKingKiller wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:41 AM:

" Hey!!!! I've got an idea. Why don't we just sanitize the whole world for the little defenseless kiddies? Why don't we just censor people's actions and killl those that don't fit in with our "ideals"? Why don't we make sure everyone has one uniform ideal? Why don't we all dress in the same uniform? Seems to me that someone tried to do that in the 40's - and wasn't too successful. B/N Sanitzed for your protection "

Gov't Oprerssed Mule wrote on Sep 26, 2007 9:22 AM:

" GLAD to see FASCISM is still alive in IL. Stupid me thinking the fascist nazi's of this town would be appeased w/ a smoking ban. I forgot nothing can satisfy their ego trip until we are living in the 4th Reich. HEIL STOCKTON! "

MrL wrote on Sep 26, 2007 5:59 AM:

" Doesn't bother me. I won't be going to a theatre that is being built so close to the ghetto anyway. "

re: not at matinees wrote on Sep 25, 2007 1:30 PM:

" I feel you make a very good point. Again, whether or not a person would agree with this, it would be very wise to attempt to separate the use of alcohol from the majority of children and families. I, personally, like the idea of being able to drink a beer while watching a movie, but still agree that the families and the majority of drinking should be apart, within all reason. I don't have children, and don't usually find myself where they are, so this proposed separation wouldn't bother me in the least. "

Not at Matinees wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:59 AM:

" I don't think beer is appropriate at the movie theatre, in general. I think drinking should stay in the bars. But that is just my opinion. However, if it is to be, then they should at least prohibit selling beer at matinees because that is when mostly smaller kids are there. Then of course, there should be strict carding at the evening shows. If they end up geting busted for alcohol getting into the wrong hands, then they need to shut-down immediately. There needs to be some limits and compromise on this controversal issue. "

Get Real wrote on Sep 25, 2007 9:07 AM:

" I see people posting comments on here that people who don't like the liquor license idea can go to another theatre. Well, while that may be true, look at where that theatre is located and the crime that is already in that area and think about how that crime is just going to escalate if you add liquor into the equation. People drink and get stupid and start thinking their tough and before you know it fights break out and that's the last thing that is needed in a movie theatre let alone that neighborhood. "

Digs Deeper wrote on Sep 25, 2007 8:45 AM:

" Ah...... Rest assured this measure failed, No BEER at the theaters..... No rise in DUI'S means safety for me and you. We Win! "

LOVE IT wrote on Sep 24, 2007 2:21 PM:

" To EVERYONE that doesn't like it. I know what you can do............Don't go......OH wait if you don't go you can't complane about it....Oh wait that won't stop you.....OK I know go and then complane......Oh I forgot thats all you do anyway.if you go or not "

gladImgone wrote on Sep 24, 2007 11:02 AM:

" dont you people have anything else to complain about. If I have to hear "what about the children" one more time, I'm gonna be sick. If my wife and I wish to go to the movies and have a beer....who cares? what business is it of yours. Have you seen some of the trash on the screen?...and you are worried about a beer. Better re-think your parenting skills and pull your head out of ....the sand... "

Get Over It wrote on Sep 24, 2007 8:26 AM:

" To those with opposing views: Is there anyone twisting your arm and making you go to this new theatre? No, I don't believe so. This town has had and will still have a fair amount of movie theatres that you can go to, all of which do not serve alcohol at this point and I'm sure that even after the Galaxy is opened, will still not serve alcohol. It's one thing to not want your children to be exposed to alcohol, but it's another to not want them to be exposed to reality. Get over it and take them to the Palace if they want to watch a Disney flick. "

Live your own life wrote on Sep 23, 2007 11:11 AM:

" This is the same ranting that a few people always do when a new place opens up. Hooters would be the end of morality, drunks would be streaming from restaurants, and there would be huge increases in accidents. Years ago, we even heard that alcohol sold in grocery and drug stores would turn our tottlers into drunks. Obviously, all of these are alarmist overstatements by people that don't approve of any form of drinking and want others to abstain also. I have a friend who has never had am alcoholic beverage in his life, and he gets offended if he sees me drinking. But, I believe in choice. If he wants to abstain, I respect that, but he should similarly respect my choice to responsibly relax with an occasional drink, even out in public. "

There are children at AppleBees wrote on Sep 23, 2007 10:40 AM:

" And once again someone posts about not being able to enjoy a beer without drinking 20. I think the bigger issue here is what makes this community such uninhibited drinkers? I knew B-N was somewhat of a bubble community with few links to the everyday world, but now I'm thinking it goes much deeper than that. They must have the largest AA attendance per capita in the country. Just like restaurants. Since those establishments serve beer, people must be plowing into each other all over when they leave since no one apparently can drink only 1 beer. "

uncle buster wrote on Sep 23, 2007 10:37 AM:

" considering whats coming out of hollyweird these days, beer at the theatres is a great idea, liquoir even better. as far as "afraid's" post, dogfighting would be an excellent alternative "

Digs Deeper wrote on Sep 22, 2007 12:28 PM:

" Great new idea, hey why don't we just sell beer and alcohol everywhere. Why not go to Micky D's and order a Coors to go too. Better yet the DMV can sell it too. Hey why not at the Children's Museum too. After all everyone is just so responsible and we never have a huge list of DUI'S come out every single week either. Heck D/T needs some afternoon entertainment lets set up a beer garden everyday of the week at noon right on the front lawn of the old courthouse. After all no one has ever been hurt by someone else using Alcohol have they...... Hey son, they got a new Transformers movie out why don't we go to the movies and you can watch the show, so I can get a beer. No officer I only had one beer, I was at the movies, they cost $8.00 each!!!, so I could not possible be under the influince...... Where are our working youth going to replace their jobs at since you must be 18 to serve alcohol? This will have many negative impacts on our community.... Just Think for a second, about what alcohol does...... ALCOHOLISM KILLS "

just one question.. wrote on Sep 22, 2007 12:12 AM:

" will they have my coors light? i mean really i wanna know..hahaha! "

afraid wrote on Sep 21, 2007 7:29 PM:

" It's only a matter of time before they allow heroin and dog fighting at the movies too. "

To: Whats new ? wrote on Sep 21, 2007 6:28 PM:

" Thank you. I wasn't gonna post, but that made me laugh. Who hasn't heard the 'whoops' and then a 'klink' and the rolling bottle going ALL the way down to the front under the seats. Oh, I forgot.... WON'T SOMEBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?! "

Not a good Idea wrote on Sep 21, 2007 4:37 PM:

" I go to the movies with young family members, why do we need to have beer involved. Very bad idea. It's bad enough to listen to other members of the audience hollering and carrying on with out beer being involved. Somebody sure isn't thinking clearly. Who will serve the beer? Mostly high students work behind the counter. "

2 Comments wrote on Sep 21, 2007 2:52 PM:

" First, to "Bad Idea" who said "they are asking for trouble if they start serving beer at the movies. the only reason they're considering it, is because the theaters aren't getting enough money, since the rise of video stores. " Since the rise of video stores...what is this, 1985? Outside of Blockbuster, the chains are going away thanks to on-demand on both cable and satellite. And secondly, for those of you who have never been to a theater that sell alcohol - how can you KNOW what it will be like if you have never been? They are going to do it, go once, and then complain if you would like. "

Yeah!!! wrote on Sep 21, 2007 10:23 AM:

" Just what we need DRUNK Turnberry thugs. How long until they have their 1st shooting? "

beer wrote on Sep 21, 2007 9:49 AM:

" It's a great idea!!!!! "

to assumption wrote on Sep 21, 2007 7:18 AM:

" yes your point is so well taken, i would have posted sooner but i just came from my pa meeting ( popcorn anonymous) and its hard to stay focused without that buttery popped goodness in my hand. You see a few years back i was driving home and was pulled over for driving with an open popcorn container and after my initial rehab at the reddenbacher clinic ( like betty ford for alchoholics) i have come to realize that beer and buttered popcorn are pretty much the same. "

bereal wrote on Sep 20, 2007 5:03 PM:

" $8.00 beers does not equal DUI. Please parents most likely won't drink with their kids. "

Whats new ? wrote on Sep 20, 2007 2:35 PM:

" My girlfriend always brings her big handbag when we go to the movies and we drink our beer for less then .75 cents per 12 oz. can. Why would anyone want to pay $5 for a beer? "

Not to mention wrote on Sep 20, 2007 12:39 PM:

" that beer is delicious! "

Assumption? wrote on Sep 20, 2007 10:39 AM:

" Why the assumption that anyone who drinks, does so because they HAVE to have it? Of course people can go for two hours without a drink. Believe it or not, most people that drink at a restaurant or movie or wherever do it because they enjoy it. Shocking I know. We don't say that people that have popcorn at the movies obviously couldn't make it for two hours without popcorn eh? Nice false argument though. "

al wrote on Sep 20, 2007 6:48 AM:

" i look forward to a beer at my next disney movie. showing i cant make it through a matinee without it will be a great example to the many kids around me. And gee all the theaters on the east side of town never needed to sell beer, why the stereotype by this theater owner? "

bad idea wrote on Sep 20, 2007 1:26 AM:

" they are asking for trouble if they start serving beer at the movies. the only reason they're considering it, is because the theaters aren't getting enough money, since the rise of video stores. "

In Japan wrote on Sep 19, 2007 9:31 PM:

" Oh man, I love to get the beer and nacho set when I go to movie theaters here. The beer is also pretty cheap, maybe $3 a can. Anyway, they sell beer in vending machines here and public drinking is not against the law. Yet I don't see drunks on the street, save late nights on weekends by the bars. And the people of B-N cry "unbelievable" and "save the children" at the suggestion of a beer and a movie. I think responsible people will buy $8 beer at a movie theater. The irresponsible ones will sneak in the beer/drugs like they ALWAYS have. I think the real losers in this are the movie theater employees. They have to deal with the stupid, the ill mannered, and the holier-than-thou types. "

Sniffer works good wrote on Sep 19, 2007 4:31 PM:

" Please who wants to smell beer all the time, it stinks. Was that smell in ST Louis from you? I always thought it was from the brewery! Yes that's why walking in DT B/N smells like stale beer too right? Another issue is: I know I have found the last persons left over candy, popcorn, and or drink, from the previous movie, just what do you think a kid will do if they find a half full beer? Even at Eight dollars a beer like gas cigarettes drug and prescription pills, if they want it they will buy it at any cost. And some will even waste it at that cost, IE look at all the SUV's and half smoked cigarettes laying around entrances to buildings. Like I keep saying.... It's called Alcoholism "

Da Nile wrote on Sep 19, 2007 1:56 PM:

" I can't have my kids around beer because I'll smell it and become the raging lunatic that threatens everyone but claims to not remember anything the next day (showing?). I'm more afraid for my kids because of myself, rather than some anonymous person sipping a cold one three rows over. "

Smell beer? wrote on Sep 19, 2007 12:51 PM:

" Whoever mentioned smelling beer must have their nose in the glass. I've been to brewries and couldn't smell the beer, but less in a movie theater where in a sell out situation, maybe 10 people will have beer. That's just a stupid comment. Smell the beer. That's one heck of a sniffer you got there. "

8 dollars a beer!?!? wrote on Sep 19, 2007 9:01 AM:

" I'll just stick to sneaking my own in, like I always do. "

Kyle wrote on Sep 18, 2007 2:10 PM:

" When I was in Germany at 16, I bought a beer at McDonald's. People in Europe have a much better, and healthier, attitude about drinking than this repressed city. I probably won't go to the movies there, because it isn't something I do, but I think it's a great first step toward showing our children that there are responsible ways to enjoy alcohol without being a drunken college student. "

Al. Co Holic wrote on Sep 18, 2007 1:05 PM:

" I have not read thru most of the comments, but you really think people in a 2-3 hr time w/ $8 beers are going to be wasted and so drunk that they are spilling and puking in the movie theatres? I just saw a few of these comments and think they are ridiculous. You people so afraid of drinking need to grow up. Some grown ups can actually drink responsibly... But GOD FORBID KIDS KNOW THAT THEY SERVE BEER BECAUSE IT IS LIKELY TO HAVE A LONG TERM EFFECT ON THEM! Some of you people are just ridiculous. "

this town... wrote on Sep 18, 2007 12:02 PM:

" ...needs to lighten up. I think its AWESOME that they'll serve beer, right here in the heart of the Illinois Bible Belt!! Now, if they could only get a few tables and brass burlesque poles for girls to dance on.........count me in!!!!!!!!!!!! "

TO: In Iraq wrote on Sep 18, 2007 11:27 AM:

" First off I hope you make it back to this fascist state in one piece, only then will you realize that when you get back that the opression we've been fighting is right here. Secondly ARE U PEOPLE SERIOUS?!?! Now I'll be walking in beer and puke? Was there EVER any puke on the Castle's floor? You people act like this is a brand new idea. Theaters across the WORLD have been doing this forever. And trust me, when I'm paying 8 dollars a beer I'm not spilling any. Then you all cry about underage drinking. What about the clubs that are 18+. They serve beer, yet if someone is caught drinking underage they call the police. God you people need to grow up and get lives. "

Frank the Tank wrote on Sep 18, 2007 10:10 AM:

" I wont be going to any theaters where beer is served. And my kids sure wont be going there. You want a beer? Go to a bar. Another nail in the coffin for movie theaters. "

To: when we smokers can wrote on Sep 18, 2007 6:00 AM:

" Both drinking and smoking are common habits. I agree that alcohol has impacted many lives when people cannot handle it. Alcohol can also have second-hand effects when someone drives drunk and impacts on an innocent party, or takes an addiction back into the home or workplace. But that's why alcoholic beverages are regulated, and that's why smoking is recognized as a problem and although not banned, is just now being regulated in certain public environments. "

When we smokers can wrote on Sep 17, 2007 5:03 PM:

" go to a Smoking bar that is intended for smokers or non-smokers who choose to go to a non smokers bar, then we will have true freedom. The argument that smoking kills and effects others health is the exact same issue that can be applied to alcohol and consumption in public or at any public facility or any usage. Alcohol when all effects are combined that impacts our communities, we clearly can demonstrate that Alcohol poses 10x more harmful effects on the population than any smokable product, including those that are illegal. Open your eyes, Alcoholism has effected more lives than any other drug. Those fighting for this law, just can't go to the movies without it either........... It's call alcoholism....... "

Amen! wrote on Sep 17, 2007 4:19 PM:

" I agree, everyone is so afraid of change. You can't do anything about it. Relax and enjoy, you don't like it don't go! Personally I like the idea. There are people that has been sneaking alcohol into theatres for years! Get over it already! "

To: to realist wrote on Sep 17, 2007 3:02 PM:

" Yes it will. I drink beer whenever I drink. It is my drink of choice, you know why? Because its cheaper then buying a bottle of hard liquor. If I decide to visit this movie theatre there is no way I would ever spend $8 on a beer. I wouldn't even pay $4. Some people like to enjoy a beer while watching a movie. The only downfall I see is disruptive people but you will have that no matter what movie theatre you go to. Some of you people are so closed minded that your afraid of change. Get over it. If you dont like it then dont partake but dont make assumptions about the people that are okay with the idea. Just because you go to a movie theatre that sells beer DOES NOT make you an alcoholic or a menace to society. "

To: to Realist, from Realist wrote on Sep 17, 2007 2:56 PM:

" Your point about the "9 million us homes with over 1 million dollars each" is not at all clear in the context of a story about a movie theatre in Bloomington IL. Nonetheless, the assertion of many posters on this forum is that most people will not choose to get drunk on $8 beers watching Cinderella on the big screen. The cost of a couple going to the movies sharing a single popcorn between them and just two beers each could easily be over $50, which would be a cost issue for most people here. If they will be doing heavier drinking, it is far more likely that they will do so where beers are cheaper and they can stay longer than two hours, such as at taverns or at home. This seems obvious to most people who actually go to licensed establishments, and less obvious to those who stay away because they oppose alcohol in general. As for my understanding, I have worked with the alcoholic beverage industry for over 30 years. And your qualifications to assert that I don't understand? "

To Lizzy wrote on Sep 17, 2007 2:42 PM:

" Exactly!! Just make sure they are cans. Bottles tend to "clank" and can alrert the highly paid ticket holders!!! "

Lizzy wrote on Sep 17, 2007 1:53 PM:

" The thing that caught my eye was the $8.00. Isn't that a bit steep? I'll sneak it in, thank you. "

Not a big deal wrote on Sep 17, 2007 1:41 PM:

" It's really not a big deal. We have several movie places here in Raleigh NC that have beer. My only issue is that it can be overpriced, but more importantly, I end up having to go to the bathroom during the movie too much. Or if it's a sappy love film that my wife is dragging me to, I end up nearly falling asleep...wait, that might not be a bad thing. The only outrage should be that it's $8 a beer. Overpriced concessions should be the argument. "

Great Idea wrote on Sep 17, 2007 12:41 PM:

" Serve Beer at the only west side theatre....just what we need. "

question wrote on Sep 17, 2007 12:27 PM:

" have we become that concerned about smell? This sounds a lot like mere wining "

Castle wrote on Sep 17, 2007 11:39 AM:

" The Castle sold beer, wine, etc... "

People! wrote on Sep 17, 2007 10:19 AM:

" There are three other movie theatres in B/N. If you dont want to partake in that movie theatre dont go to it. Simple solution. I am pretty sure the other theatres will play the same movies. Chill out. Its not that big of a deal. "

To:Realist wrote on Sep 17, 2007 8:58 AM:

" Hey you are exactly right, a whole whopping $8.00 a beer will make a huge dent in the 9 million us homes with over 1 million dollars each. Sorry but you might want to look at the facts before you speak yourself, as $8.00 is either a movie a beer or a cheeseburger meal, point is $8 is not going to deter anyone from drinking, just like the $2.00 tax on cigarettes have not detoured anyone from smoking as well. So next time, think before YOU open your mouth on issues that YOU don't understand. "

to all parents worried about beer smell wrote on Sep 17, 2007 8:07 AM:

" stay at home! Why shoudl I suffer because you shoose to breed? "

Realist wrote on Sep 17, 2007 6:31 AM:

" The problem with this forum is that it attracts people who spout their biased opinions without reading and considering others' input, or basing their emotional outbursts on fact. Some people keep posting about how they will never set foot in this theatre because the sale of beer there will mean it will be filled with loud and disruptive drunks. That completely ignores posters who point out that $8 beers won't be the choice of alcoholics, or that real-world examples illustrate that beer is not the end of civilization. Get out from behind your computer and visit one of the many actual places (coliseum, performing arts center, Chuck E Cheese, bowling alleys, the Castle Theatre, and most restaurants) where alcoholic beverages are sold in a family atmosphere and realize that your dire predictions just don't make sense. "

Great... wrote on Sep 16, 2007 10:43 PM:

" ...just what the theatre needs, a bunch of alcoholics being loud and disruptive...like there arent enough of those peopole in the theatre already...and as for eight dollar beers, how much is a beer at a baseball game or basketball game, granted the "show" is much longer, but think about it... "

To Super Great Idea: wrote on Sep 16, 2007 3:35 PM:

" Maybe this should be an adult only bar, and you should be ID before you get in and they should only employee 21 or over people. Also to Super Great Idea: I grew up in a household where my parents told me what not to do and what was right and one thing they told me was not to drink any alcoholic beverages. and you know I didnt even when my friends did I waited till I was 21 maybe YOU should educate your kids to not do it, rather blame other people for the mistakes that they make. Cause you teachs them not the world!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

OGS 50cent beer is $8 wrote on Sep 16, 2007 3:00 PM:

" Now we know what their mark up is! Wow! Times 16! Wow! Next time I go to a movie...I am going to smuggle in Milk Duds, Ju Jus, sodas, bottled water etc. I wait til I get home to eat the popcorn. That buttery stuff is supposed to be bad for you now anyway. What a rip off! Now you take a date to a movie...buy a couple of beers and you spend $60. I'll wait for the DVD...I've had enough insults from these people. "

Iraq commenter wrote on Sep 16, 2007 10:34 AM:

" I do not choose to just believe we are their killing people only, I know this nation has sent my brother in law to fight I know what his duties are I know how many confirmed bodies he has on his hands, I also know that the only real threat to America that we are protecting is the intrest in oil, everything else is all about deception and keeping theese young men there and the contiuation of brainwashing them into believing that they are there saving America's future is just plain stupid and uneducated. Saddam had no nukes, had no chemical weapons, but hey he had pletty of oil right....... And yes my brother in law knows how I feel about what he is doing , but hey like he said most of these young men are there for money( enlistment bonuses) and for the thrill of the hunt( his words, like a video game) only with real lives. "

super great idea wrote on Sep 16, 2007 9:36 AM:

" i dont smoke or drink anymore, i am 56 years old and i havent gone to the movies in quite sometime , but thank you city of bloomington and wehrenberg theaters for another place for my grandchildren to be exposed to beer and the smell of it while they are young ,and i really feel confident your isle attendants will be on guard to assure there will be no drink sharing to under age teens in this dark surroundings , thank you so very much , you idiots!!!!!!!!!! "

Personally wrote on Sep 16, 2007 8:25 AM:

" I think anyone who pays $8 for a beer is just as crazy as the people who decided to build that movie theater right where it is. Good luck to you! "

to to in iraq wrote on Sep 16, 2007 8:23 AM:

" Maybe someone in the military who is willing to fight for our freedom in this country is marginally better than those who aren't because they put their money where their mouth is. I mean, when it comes down to those who are crossing our borders with potential to harm us, it isn't going to be the video-game simulator playing, scared to get hit in real life, don't know what it is to really defend their freedoms punks that are going to protect you, it will be the military men and women who have the courage to stand up and fight. All you others will run away scared when the reality of how your liberal rights is the reason we are in the mess we are in. Then you won't be able to fight because you believe killing is wrong...ask the suicide bomber if he wants to talk it out. "

to to in iraq wrote on Sep 16, 2007 8:18 AM:

" What I am sick of is people like you who obviously have no idea of what our military is doing over in Iraq. Take YOUR head out of the sand and stop believing everything you only choose to see. Our military is not over there "killing innocent people"...if you took the time to actually KNOW anything you would know that they HELP the Iraqi people build schools they didn't have and roads they didn't have and teach them trades, educate them, help them learn to farm, irrigate, take care of sicknesses and injuries. Honestly, you are just as guilty as you say the people who follow blindly in the military are... you can't see past what YOU want to believe to see that there is more than just killing going on there. But that's right...as evident here...it is soooo much easier to focus on the bad and THINK you know the whole fact. "

EWE...... wrote on Sep 16, 2007 7:21 AM:

" I won't be going to the movies then. It will reek of beer and the floors will be a sticky mess! "

to: to in Iraq wrote on Sep 15, 2007 9:39 PM:

" Please, Feel differently how, they have not even accomplished catching the man who "supposedly" masterminded the whole operation. Is America truly safer since we invaded Iraq or Afghanistan? I know not, since every illegal that freely crosses our boarders could be another operative from any single nation in the world , not just those two countries, we IMO are there securing America's real interest, OIL and World oil currency domination on oil trading. But like I said serving in Iraq or the military makes a person no better than the next. "

Nobody wrote on Sep 15, 2007 9:37 PM:

" What a completely horrible idea, but anything to boost revenues, I guess. Doesn't it smell bad enough in a theatre already? Now we can step in spilled beer and vomit. Nice. Count me out. "

To; to in Iraq wrote on Sep 15, 2007 8:07 PM:

" You are very disrespecfull to our military personel I must say. Maybe you would feel different if someone you loved had been killed in the WTC attack. I feel sorry for you and your attitude. "

To:In Iraq wrote on Sep 15, 2007 3:26 PM:

" Saddam killed less people in his entire life than alcohol kills in a single year. Just glad I am not brainwashed like your comment makes you out to be..... LOL using the I'm better than you stance, because I'm in Iraq........ "

To:In Iraq wrote on Sep 15, 2007 3:22 PM:

" Who cares that you are over in Iraq I don't. You are not doing anything special other than being allowed to kill Innocent citizens of Iraq for this nations greed. This nation has a huge issue with Alcoholism and it effects everyone even more so than does your hated poppies and kills millions every year who did not even consume alcohol in the first place. Views such as your is why this nation is looked at as the deceivers and the true enemy to free growth and prosperity of all nations. Saddam killed less people in his entire life than alcohol kills every year get a clue..... Your fighting the wrong fight...... "

now what wrote on Sep 15, 2007 3:06 PM:

" I had planned to go to this theatre since it is close to my house. Now I will not be going. What is stopping someone from buying beer and giving it to a minor in the dark theatre. Can't people go two hours without alcohol? Lets go ahead and allow smoking also. After all it has said that the bars can't make it with out their smokers. "

To: HJ wrote on Sep 15, 2007 1:35 PM:

" They don't preferential treatment, Carmike (or GKC at the time), didn't apply for a Liquor License. That is what Wehrenberg did. Just becaues they don't have it doesn't mean they can't. "

Look around wrote on Sep 15, 2007 10:34 AM:

" Not only are alcoholic drinks available at movie theatres in many parts of the US and world, they are also available at stage plays, ballets, and many "highbrow" cultural events. Go to a play in Chicago, NYC, or London. Go to Carnegie Hall or Lincoln Center. Or, right here in town, go to the Bloomington Center for the Performing Arts to see Buckwheat Zydeco (last night) or the Illinois Symphony Orchestra (later this month) and you'll find a full bar. Or, if you like more basic entertainment, just go to Chuck E Cheese in Bloomington, play skeeball, and have a beer. "

In Iraq wrote on Sep 15, 2007 7:14 AM:

" you are all pathetic, fighting, arguing about a stupid issue. This is also coming from someone who HAS lost friends to drinking and driving. I am over here fighting for the freedom of the United States of America, so that people, if they choose, CAN start an establishment such as this. There was the Castle Theatre for the longest time, and no problems or B*tching about it then, if you don't like it, don't go to that theatre, and be realistic, noone, NOONE will get so drunk off of $8 beers in a 120 minute time period that they can't drive. I'm just disgusted I will be coming back in a month to people like you. "

HJ wrote on Sep 15, 2007 6:02 AM:

" Why does this theater get preferential treatment. If they allow one theater to sell beer, why not let them all? Why not let all like establishments sell beer? "

To:Todd the Bod wrote on Sep 14, 2007 5:08 PM:

" If you consider where Wehrenberg Theaters is the hood, then I have no idea what you would consider the southside of Chicago, or even other places in Bloomington/Normal. And then to make the general discrimation that everyone that lives in the "hood," drinks 40s is just ridiculous and ignorant. It would be much appreciated if next time you comment on a story you make it sound some what intelligent. "

regression wrote on Sep 14, 2007 3:49 PM:

" yes, some sort of puritan extremism is certainly gaining momentum again, it seems. for some reason, there is a mounting force of desperately frightened and emotionally driven fundamentalists taking over what was once a nation that featured innovation and free thought. one might notice, while they consistently complain that they are forced to be surrounded by the filth they are so much holier than, they are ironically calling for the powers that be to force their views on OUR behavior, which is a philosophy that is itself filthy, to me. God Save Freedom, she needs it. "

Not my kids..... wrote on Sep 14, 2007 2:42 PM:

" For those of you that will not take your kids to this theater because of beer being sold......Do any of you take your kids to, Tobins, Wings etc., Shannon's, Applebee's, Chili's, Grady's, Central Station, Biagg's, Chevy's Fresh Mex, Carlos O'Kelley's, Red Lobster, Outback, Beningo's, TGI Friday's, Garden of Paradise, Ozark House, baseball game, football game, hockey game? Beer and or other liquor's are sold at all of these places. There is nothing wrong with and ADULT having a casual beer, most movies are not long enough for someone to drink enough to get drunk at. Maybe your kids just get to go to happy and health consious McDonalds for their daily does of trans fats. "

I'm dry wrote on Sep 14, 2007 12:26 PM:

" Haven't had a drink in many years but I like to know that IF I wish to have a drink at the theather, It'll be there. Maybe I'll have one. Welcome to the 21st century. "

TO B/N Crybabies.... wrote on Sep 14, 2007 11:51 AM:

" WAHHHH!!! OH NO! a movie theater that serves beer, RUN!!!!! Lighten up you whiny . Almost every metropolitan city in the world serves alcohol in theaters. In Ireland the movie theaters have a BAR in them. In France Beer is served at fast food restaurants, in Italy; well you get the idea. I would be willing to bet my next paycheck these babies that are whining are the same people who forced a ban on smoking. Have you read your posts? "I don't want to smell the beer." Are you serious?!?!? If you don't want to smell the beer, get your nose out of my cup. I don't want to smell popcorn, because it causes cancer but oh, to bad for me. Why don't you grow up. "

?WTF? wrote on Sep 14, 2007 11:16 AM:

" Who the hell gets closed down on a SATURDAY night for carrying a drink out of the bar. I guess every downtown Bloomington bar owner now needs extra help to police people smoking cigarettes and carrying drinks out with them. I can see the fine but what the heck is the deal on the shutdown. You might as well give out $5,000 tickets to speeders..........Absolutely Ridiculous! "

to: wow wrote on Sep 14, 2007 11:16 AM:

" well, obviously you're looking hard to make a point, which is the hallmark of a non-credible opinion, meaning you are clearly painfully biased. but, to play along, how about the simple fact that a subject like this is FAR lighter, and FAR easier to comment on. and, hopefully, there are FAR more people with direct experience on THIS subject, and not on that of child pornography. what, do you want a million posts saying exactly what anyone with any sense would say? or do you want a million posts celebrating the joys of child porn? you might think you're saying something, when you're really just making noise. "

wow wrote on Sep 14, 2007 10:32 AM:

" this story has well over 100 comments . . . but the story about the B/N arrested for child pr0n only has 33 or so . . . what does this tell us about our lovely town? "

Long-time resident wrote on Sep 14, 2007 10:23 AM:

" Compared to most places around the world, there is a larger group of very conservative and opinionated peope in BN. Of course, not every idea is best for this town, but any change, even good change, goes over very hard here. "

No Thanks. wrote on Sep 14, 2007 10:15 AM:

" $8 Bucks for one beer? For that much I can rent a movie and buy a sixpack. (no cellphones or crying kids) And that is not even covering the price of the movie. "

me wrote on Sep 14, 2007 9:41 AM:

" Just a thought has a point. I don't like the smell of beer, so I won't go to that theater. At the Castle, you weren't sitting right next to people. If this new theater is like every other theater in town, you would be able to smell the beer. I don't care if you want to have a brew, I just wouldn't want to be near it. You go to that theater, I'll go to one of the others. "

Just A Thought... wrote on Sep 14, 2007 8:51 AM:

" To Bloomington ALochol Commission...Thank You yet again for reminding me how stupid some of your leaders are!!! I will NOT be at the movies at that theater. No I don't think it will casue public intox or vommitting or such...I really don't look forward to having to sit by someone and smell it. Maybe if Bloominton would stop spending money like they had it they would not need to allow so much alochol to be served in places such as the theater. Are there not enough bars and taverns restaurants in the area that can handle this...Once again COMMON SENSE DOES NOT PREVAIL...Thank You for once again proving this point to me. "

to to yuck wrote on Sep 14, 2007 8:49 AM:

" well since this has passed, I guess if you don't like it, hit the trail "

to yuck wrote on Sep 14, 2007 7:13 AM:

" Guess you better get your bags packed for Europe. Why do you live here again???? "

to Re: to to idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:43 PM: wrote on Sep 14, 2007 6:29 AM:

" not at all. No nerve hit. Just read some of these posts. "We shouldn't do that because of the children". That statement is old and I am growing tired of it. Not everyone wants to be a breeder so why should we suffer because others decided to have children. Beer at a movie is still a great idea. It's done in many cities in the world and even in the US and you know, I think the precious children are still surviving. "

No big deal wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:45 PM:

" heck overseas they sell beer at Mcdonalds... you can have a nice tall draft with your Bic Mac. "

Spooky wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:18 PM:

" Have to agree that beer sales in a movie theater is hardly necessary. But I am utterly amazed how many posters believe that simple alcohol sales will result in public urination, vomitting, rude behavior, and destroy their young. Come on people, get a grip on yourselves. "

Grandparent wrote on Sep 13, 2007 8:49 PM:

" This sounds a lot like a much bigger and nicer version of the Castle Theatre. You could order food and beer there too. Our grandkids loved the couches at the Castle. I'm not a drinker, but we never had any trouble with beer there. At the type of movies we went to, we hardly saw it. I think people are making a big deal over this without knowing what it will really be like. "

I agree with to: what wrote on Sep 13, 2007 7:47 PM:

" Really..why is everything about the children? Children are just little adults. Why is everyone catering to them. They are going to grow up and be adults someday. They are going to drink, see naked people, curse, see violence. Nothing that you or I or anyone can do to stop it. So why are we protecting them so much now. Protecting them so much now will give them a big culture shock. I loathe it when people's comments are always "what about the children" give it a rest people. "

pot wrote on Sep 13, 2007 6:22 PM:

" lets legalize pot so we don't have to drink all day. "

YUCK! wrote on Sep 13, 2007 6:06 PM:

" Too many Holier-than-thous in Bloomington FAR too excited about telling everyone what they can and can't do; at best this whining sounds far too much like the Prohibition years (yeah, that was SUCH a success let's do it again- eeewwww), or at worst (and seemingly more likely) paralelling the days before totalitarian rule....when every move you make is watched by some group or government there is no freedom anymore. The cameras, bans, and "watchdog" mentality is CREATING drunkenness and other vices by making them such bad things! YOU obsess over it, YOU CREATE the reality pure and simple. It may not be perfect there but Europeans don't have near the "paranoia" about behavior and don't suffer the Puritanical standards that this country does; as a result they seem generally much more at ease and there are a whole lot fewer problems with drugs, alcohol and other "vices" than we have in this country. LOOSEN UP PEOPLE! Jeesh! "

Re; to to ideas wrote on Sep 13, 2007 5:15 PM:

" Obviously there are not police or breath machines at every bar or establishment and I am aware of that. "Idea" had the notion that doing so would be a possible solution. My reply simply asked where "Idea" would have the money come from to cover such costs and stated that sort of solution is not possible or even logical. Your argument is justified and fall in line with what I am saying, not against. "

Uptight wrote on Sep 13, 2007 5:13 PM:

" This has to be one of the most repressed uptight communities in the midwest! Relax, it is just overpriced beer and wine. Big deal! So what if somebody wants a beer or wine with their movie. The people that would be getting loaded on one beer will not be buying one there. They are far too busy telling others not to drink. "

OH GREAT! Isn't it..... wrote on Sep 13, 2007 5:07 PM:

" bad enough that we have taverns on every other corner in this country, drunks coming out of the taverns and driving drunk and killing innocent people, city governments who 'push' the sale of beer, etc.? NOW those of us who do not even like to smell alcohol (due to having very dear friends and relatives die from it and who have been almost murdered by a drunken husband) will NOT be able to go to a movie without smelling this crap or without being around drunks? "

To Re: To Idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 5:04 PM:

" Be realistic. Your idea of putting a breathalizer test at every establishment that serves alcohol is not possible regardless of how you think it can be paid for. If you were thinking logically the cost of each individual test, plus the cost for each police officer at each establishment does not make it possible nor even a possibility. "

to what wrote on Sep 13, 2007 4:28 PM:

" why must everything be about children? There are adults that neither have nor want to be breeders "

i just wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:48 PM:

" bring a pint of hard liquer in my pocket. by the end of the movie i am feeling good! "

The Voice of Reason wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:47 PM:

" How many people are going to drink enough throughout a movie to get them drunk to the point where they cannot properly operate a motor vehicle? At 8 bucks a glass, I'm guessing it won't be many. Plus, why would someone want to drink that many expensive beers in a couple hours and miss a good portion of the movie to wait in line to either pee, or refill their empty cup? If people are looking to get drunk, they will probably go to a bar, pay 1/2 the price, or stay home. The one concerning thing is the underage drinking that could occur due to the darkness in the theater. "

Re: to to idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:43 PM:

" something hit a nerve. this has nothing to do with hollier then now. It's about being responsable. No matter where you go there is always someone who turns it into amature night. All that goes with being drunk. Maybe when you get drunked up at the movies and start throwing the F word around, spilling your beer on someone, and start acting like a tough guy, someone will show you some of their own kind of repect. There is always one, i'm guessing your it. Amature night at the movies. "

ROTFLMAO wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:43 PM:

" These responses are hilarious! I've lived here 40 years so not surprised by the repressed hypocrites decrying the decline of civilization if alcohol is allowed in public. Sheesh! I suppose everyone complaining here NEVER patronizes, with their kids, any restaurant that serves alcohol, right? Yeah, right. What's the difference if you patronzie a restaurant or movie theatre that serves alcohol? Letting kids witness alcohol consumption is better than sheltering them. Then you can teach them by example. Go ahead, hide those kids away. You will be the parents getting a drunk teenager dumped on your doorstep by his friends because you as a parent FAILED to educate them about the real world. Hopefully it won't be the police or ER calling you. Hopefully your kids won't be too scared of you to call you for a ride when they need one. Teaching alcohol abstinence is about as effective as teaching sex abstinence. Give them the tools to make good decisions for themselves people! I've waited a long time to be able to have a beer with my movie. Yippee! "

to Stop whining! wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:43 PM:

" It will be those unattended kids sitting next to someone and getting some "sips" from the one who bought it. Or waiting till everyone leaves and collecting the beers that weren't finished and downing them. Boy this could be a boon for the pedophiles out there. "

Big Deal wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:25 PM:

" When an individual pays $8.00 a beer, I don't really think there is going to be a big problem of over drinking. Or, underage drinking for that matter. You all need to get a clue. Having a beer or a glass of wine at a movie is not a big deal, and this has been done in the bigger cities for quite some time. For those of you getting so worked up about this, I think you can relax........if someone's intent was to "get drunk and obnoxious", I think they would be doing it somewhere other than a movie theater. At $8 a pop, the underagers that want to get trashed will find a way to do it cheaper and in a more fun environment. "

Finally, wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:08 PM:

" something to help us make it through all those previews... "

One for the Road wrote on Sep 13, 2007 3:08 PM:

" Stay home rent a movie have a beer. Quit promoting and drinking and driving! "

to to ideas wrote on Sep 13, 2007 2:42 PM:

" there aren't police of breath machines in all the bars, stores, etc, why would this be different. Amazing, you would think that this town can't have a beer without getting wasted. What is it all your puritans would like to see in this town? No one is buying the holier than thou bit "

To: Matt wrote on Sep 13, 2007 2:20 PM:

" I agree whole heartedly with your comments, in regards to many, many posts from past times. Apparently you are either abstinent or a psychotic booze hound in this town, from the comments. Are you people aware that it IS possible to have 1 or 2 beers and no more? I know people do it all the time, but I'd have to guess not in this area. Something in the water? Wow. "

Re: To idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 2:13 PM:

" Taxes on your beer would pay for it. You buy it, you pay it. Keeps everyone safe. You want to drink, fine, go to a bar; better yet, stay home. "

What? wrote on Sep 13, 2007 2:13 PM:

" What a great idea...let's serve alcohol to parents while they're taking little Johnny to see a disney movie. Has anyone thought about sauced parents driving their kids while under the influence? Hello????!!! And bloomington/normal is so worried about their children being exposed to cigarette smoke? Hmmmm... "

PEOPLE wrote on Sep 13, 2007 2:10 PM:

" There is more than one theater in this town. You do not have to go to this theater. If you do not want beer in the theater don't go there. Plus they are not forcing beer down your throat if you go to the theater. Because it is availble, you don't have to buy it. I, for one, would enjoy a beer with a movie, but that's just me. "

Yummy wrote on Sep 13, 2007 2:09 PM:

" What kind of food are they going to sell there? Uno's pizza goes great with BEER "

Free yourselves wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:38 PM:

" It amazes me the level of repression people put on themselves in this country. The reason drinking and driving is a problem is because this society is so repressed that we make alcohol a forbidden fruit to our youth. When you take something and repeatedly tell children that they cannot have it and that if they have it they will die then you have just created a recipe for those children to abuse that fruit. by telling them "No, no, no" all the time we are teaching them to hide it and to do it to excess. Besides, religious fanaticism has killed more people in the history of the world than all the alcohol and drugs combined. Look at the Crusades for one example. Bottom line, if you don't like alcohol, don't drink it. More for me. Also, keep your "book" out of my life and we will get along. Praise be to the Flying Spaghetti Monster. "

Matt wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:35 PM:

" Wow - From reading these comments, you would think that it is impossible to have a beer and not become stumbling, mumbling, and falling all over the place drunk! Do you people not have the common sense to control yourself or does the first taste of alcohol unleash an all-night binge drinking fest?! This story in itself doesn't matter to me one bit. I don't think it is necessary to have a movie theatre that sells beer, but it also doesn't bother me to have one for those who may enjoy it. Wake up people and realize that this is not the end of the world. "

Curious.... wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:29 PM:

" How many of the people on here complaining about the selling of alcohol at a movie theater are drunk right now??? "

to Sox 05 wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:22 PM:

" why shouldn't there be beer? Why should those of us who want nothing to do with children suffer because parents can't teach kids about responsibility and alcohol? If you're not driving drunk and are over 21 you should be able to enjoy a beer. I still think this is a great idea! "

WTF!! wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:11 PM:

" You would think that people could go to a movie without drinking. What's next, Disney movies at the bars?? They already have problems with ignorrant, drunk people at the ball parks, now we can't take our kids to the movies? I am a person that likes to have a cold one from time to time myself but, WTF! "

Another reason~~ wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:08 PM:

" not to go to the movies!! I wouldn't want to put up with the drunks falling all over each other. This is totally ridiculious to have to put up with the drunks on the road and now the theatre's !!! Pathetic!!! "

Sox 05 wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:07 PM:

" To Great Idea: you sound like one of the little brats that need to stay home. beer is a lousy idea. Once the theaters get busted for serving to minors, they need to be shut down. "

This isn't your old concept theatre wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:00 PM:

" Go to www.wehrenberg.com. They are a St. Louis chain that is opening big 14-20 screen theatres in some other midwestern cities like Springfield MO, Rochester MN, and Cedar Rapids IA. This is going to be a lot more than just 14 theatres under one roof. It will have a modern arcade with prizes and simulators. The beer is sold in a sit-down restaurant, but there is no rule against taking it into the movie. The restaurant will have more foods like pasta, pizza, and milkshakes. There will also be all the modern amenities like digital projection, surround sound, stadium seating, special seats for couples, and one theatre of the 14 will be the biggest in Central Illinois. It sounds something like IMAX with a 60x40 foot screen and will seat 450 people. Movie theatres need to do something to survive against big-screen TVs and DVDs. I think we have to readjust our ideas about the traditional movie theatre and I'm glad we will see some new concepts here in Bloomington. "

well hmmmmmmmmm wrote on Sep 13, 2007 1:00 PM:

" there is just one answer to this and its simple everyone should lock them selves in a closet and stay safe from all the evils that loom out there for all you goody two shoes then you may be happy ill be right iam at work at a insurance company i will be right back i need one more drink for lunch "

Liquor Commission wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:50 PM:

" Bloomington Liquor Control Commission mission is to control the sale I think of all liquor and beer. What a waste of taxpayers money to have this commission because they approve just about every request that comes along. Why not just sell permits at city hall for anyone that want to sell the stuff at their businesses. If we had a real liquor control program would the sales tax suffer. O'Well it always turns out to be all about money and not principle or conrtrol. "

Slippery slope wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:48 PM:

" I felt sad, let down & disappointed when I read this article. Disappointed in our mayor. I don't want to take my family to a bar/theatre. I'll have nothing to do with it. I'm calling the mayor to voice my disappointment. I hope everyone else who feels the same does too. "

DJ wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:32 PM:

" Go figure!!! Can't take the family out to a movie without beer. What does this say about people?? Then you put your family in the car with someone who has been drinking to take them home. Or just maybe we stop for a late snack, and I can have one more beer before I go home. If you can afford $8 for a beer, why don't you take that money and buy a blanket for some needy person, or homeless. Makes more sense to me. "

Family oriented wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:31 PM:

" this statement means less and less as time goes on-they rent and sell porno movies at FAMILY VIDEO, but it's ok with them, because they don't have any with gay males in them. Maybe it's ok as long as the whole family watches, that may be what they had in mind. "

Teaching our kids... wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:21 PM:

" ...to use alcohol responsibly has more to do with parental and peer influence than just banning alcohol from places in Bloomington. Kids should see their parents using alcohol responsibly. When we go out as a family, we make it a point that only one of us drinks, the other says, "I'm driving tonight, so I'll have soda". We are also very careful to limit our consumption. Burying our heads in the sand by banning alcohol from places that kids go isn't going to help them when they leave Bloomington for school, work, or vacation and go into the rest of the world where alcohol is commonly served at family places. In many other countries, wine is far more commonly served and consumed, even by teenagers, and it's legal and not made into a big deal. Teach them, don't shelter them. "

To Idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:14 PM:

" What great idea will you have to cover the costs of using thousand's of breathalizers on daily basis as well as staffing a police officer at every establishment that serves alcohol. That would be great in a fictional story, but this is reality. I hope your profession doesn't involve coming up great ideas such as these. Well thought out! "

To Idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:08 PM:

" So what idea will you come up with to pay for the 1,000's of breathalizer tests each night that will be needed to accomplish this great plan of yours. We have all the restraunts, bars, liqupr stores "

Is it really that bad? wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:03 PM:

" Cheeeeze. All we hear from some people every time a new place opens is how a restaurant, bowling alley, or whatever will destroy society if beer is sold there. This was said about the Coliseum, Performing Arts Center, Castle Theatre, Hooter's, Chucky Cheese, and even grocery and convenience stores. I remember when some of my fellow citizens fought the store at Gill St and Airport Rd because it would sell beer and would bring "crime and drunks flocking to our neighborhood, killing our kids". Even further back, people were incensed that liquor would be allowed in grocery stores. Maybe some of you still agree that liquor shouldn't be sold anywhere but a few liquor stores, or shouldn't be sold at all, but society has changed and I for one, don't see any big problem when I am at Chucky Cheese, the coliseum. a restaurant, or a grocery/convenience store. I bet most people will hardly even notice beer at these theatres after they're open unless for a live boxing match. "

Former B/N Resident wrote on Sep 13, 2007 12:03 PM:

" I can't believe how sheltered the average B/N resident is. Growing up in B/N and now living in St. Louis has made me realize that the community is falling behind in the times. This concept has been going on in big cities for years with no problems and the theatres are typically much nicer than what's in Blomington. Relax people! If you think this puts your children at more of a risk of becoming an alcoholic, then make sure you do YOUR job as a parent and be certain your child knows that if your 8 years old and watching The Little Mermaid, DON'T DRINK BEER. "

Some People wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:54 AM:

" Have nothing else but to "put down" people that like to have a beer. Are all of you saying that we DON'T EXIST? I mean those of us who CAN HANDLE THEIR ALCOHOL- Remember this: ALCOHOL IS LEGAL - If you don't want your kids around it, GO SEE A DIFFERENT MOVIE! Maybe this will be good- NO DISRUPTIVE CHILDREN AROUND! Remember this is a F-R-E-E country- let's try and keep it that way! "

Thanks. wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:41 AM:

" Thanks for the notice. I will now not patronize this movie theatre. There is no reason whatsoever to bring alcohol into a movie theatre. "

LittleMac wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:30 AM:

" Well, if they're doing it in Missouri and Iowa, that's good enough for me. I mean us. "

great idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:25 AM:

" there is enough family crap in this town. I think this is a great idea. I might start seeing more movies epsecially if there are less brats in the audience "

Idea wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:22 AM:

" This will work if one thing happens. Have the cops in the parking lot and every driver getting ready to leave has to pass the test, it's that simple. No one's right are violated and people are protected. They should do this at every place that serves alcohol and most of this crap would stop. End of story. "

Come on People wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:17 AM:

" If they already serve beer at Chuck E Cheese's and you take your kids there then shame on you. Adult parents need to make better choices for our children anyway and if serving beer in a movie theater makes you think twice about letting your 10 year old watch horror or sexy movies with you then all the better! "

Reply to Family matter/My question to you... wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:13 AM:

" Newsflash.... Bars in Bloomington can open @ 6a.m. And yes I work at a bar and we do have patrons that show up rippped at 8 a.m. when we open. Just as drunk as the ones that left at closing. I know many people that get up and start drinking. I know people that work nights and are way drunk at 7 a.m. -10a.m. No difference to them a.m or pm.. They also are sleeping when everyone else is just getting off of work. Many retired customers also start early and I have had to ask seveal over the 4 years I have bartended to wait until the kids are safley home from school before they leave since they refuse to catch a cab or call someone. Tha is part of the reason I don't tend bar on day shift anymore. I saw way to much of it and they don't patrol during the day as they do at night. YOu really would be surprised at the people that are way intoxicated during the day hour. Doesn't matter day or night everyone should drink responsibly "

Help me understand... wrote on Sep 13, 2007 11:04 AM:

" All of this for what? They serve beer at Chuck E Cheese... They have bars at almost all of the "Family" Resturants... So if you have a glass of wine or a beer at either one of these establishments where you bring your children why is it such an issue for a movie? I would hope that we are are responsible adults and know what to do. Why all of this debate? Help me understand. As with anything else it is called freedom of choice... "

to family matter wrote on Sep 13, 2007 10:24 AM:

" my question to you is ,why do you have your grandkids out at those times of night when most people are leaving drinking establishments? shouldnt they be tucked in there safe cozy beds away from the terrible evils of the world! "

$$$$$$ wrote on Sep 13, 2007 10:22 AM:

" $8.00 a beer, what is this a Cardinals game? Cardinals or movies...either way it's comedy!!!!! "

Get with the times wrote on Sep 13, 2007 10:11 AM:

" Honestly people! When I was younger I went to Florida and they had an awsom Movie Theater there that I will never forget. It was a classier theater that had round tables and really nice chairs and seating; nothing like the Castle. As the movie played we were actually waiting on by a waitress and you could order just about any drink or food you wanted. It was great and I didn't see any drunks there! If they do this right and keep it upscaled, it could be a nice theater to go to. Just try to keep an open mind. "

Observer wrote on Sep 13, 2007 10:03 AM:

" From the posts so far: Everyone who chooses to drink a beer is an alcoholic. B/N has more than its fair share of elitists and racists. The availability of alcohol at any event makes it a drunken orgy unsuitable for anyone under age 21. I can’t wait for the post insinuating the location will be too dangerous with all the gangs and drugs and guns prevalent on the “west side” Give me a break. "

To:bout time wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:36 AM:

" I 've been down the road with alcohol and I did all I could to keep my kids from making the same mistakes. Maybe your parents should have done the same. By the way, move to Germany if you don't like it here. According to you, there must be plenty of drunks to hang out with there. "

JT wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:32 AM:

" Part four "Of course the moment we introduce real world factors to the room,,, a door, an open window or two, or a healthy level of mechanical air exchange (remember, the room we've been talking about is sealed) achieving these levels becomes even more implausible. "It becomes increasingly clear to us that ETS is a political, rather than scientific, scapegoat." "

Mary Ryan wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:31 AM:

" I have no reason to go to a movie and put up with drinkers. This is another example of why I will not shop downtown. There is a bar in everyblock. The mess down there in the morning is terrible. Now they suggest we put up with it at the movies. "

JT wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:31 AM:

" Part three "At the lower end of the scale,,, in the case of Acetaldehyde or Hydrazine, more than 14,000 smokers would need to light up simultaneously in our little room to reach the threshold at which they might begin to pose a danger. "For Hydroquinone, "only" 1250 cigarettes are required. Perhaps we could post a notice limiting this 20-foot square room to 300 rather tightly-packed people smoking no more than 62 packs per hour? "

JT wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:29 AM:

" Part two "Taking the figures for ETS yields per cigarette directly from the EPA, we calculated the number of cigarettes that would be required to reach the lowest published "danger" threshold for each of these substances. The results are actually quite amusing. In fact, it is difficult to imagine a situation where these threshold limits could be realized. "For Benzo[a]pyrene, 222,000 cigarettes would be required to reach the lowest published "danger" threshold. "For Acetone, 118,000 cigarettes would be required. "Toluene would require 50,000 packs of simultaneously smoldering cigarettes. "

JT wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:26 AM:

" This town, this state, puts in a smoking ban, but allows beer to be served in the theater. Take the kiddies, the wife, have some popcorn, and a some beer. This is nuts. And here some info and in part one, two, etc The air according to Osha calculating the non-existent risks of ETS "We have taken the substances for which measurements have actually been obtained,,,,,very few, of course, because it's difficult to even find these chemicals in diffuse and diluted ETS. "We posit a sealed, unventilated enclosure that is 20 feet square with a 9 foot ceiling clearance. "

It's Brilliant wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:16 AM:

" You have a couple of beers. It is nice and dark in the theater and fall asleep. Miss the best part of the movie and have to come back later and buy another ticket. Guarantees repeat business. Wehrenberg Theater, you are geniuses (or is it genii?)!!! "

Hilde1951 wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:13 AM:

" Ok, lets see. I'm going to take my kids to a movie. They get soda, popcorn and candy. I get beer. After we finish, I get to show them how local law enforcement arrest daddy for DUI. How stupid can you get!! Beer at a theatre. Of course it said the beers will cost $8.00 each. If you can afford that, then you all you have to do is make sure your limo driver does not come in with you. "

The Movie Guy wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:07 AM:

" Mmmmmm. Nothing says a good time like a Bud and box of Milk Duds. "

bout time wrote on Sep 13, 2007 9:03 AM:

" great idea they serve beer at ball games why not at movie theatrs a and at places other then there such as the pools iam sure that the parents that complain about this have never had a drink or even have the forbidden drink in there homes get real people look at germany they sell beer in like soda machines to all "

past B-N resident wrote on Sep 13, 2007 8:52 AM:

" I live in woodridge now and we a have a place like this called hollywood blvd its a great place i went there had lunch drank a bloody mary and watched a movie i had a great time. as they say dont knock before you try it. "

Don't be too sure.. wrote on Sep 13, 2007 8:50 AM:

" I would have loved to get liqured up at some of the movies I had to take my kids too. I'm glad I only had to sit through 2 Home Alones! Now just to be sober enough to make it home with the little ones!! "

RELAX!!! wrote on Sep 13, 2007 8:47 AM:

" THERE ARE RESPONIBLE ADULTS/PARENTS OUT THERE!!! I'M SURE IF SOMONE HAS CHILDREN AT THE MOVIE THEY WILL CHOOSE NOT TO DRINK OR HAVE A DESIGINATED DRIVER COME ALONG WITH THEM!!! I'M JUST HOPING THE SERVE WINE!!! "

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