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to: to in the know wrote on Oct 19, 2007 6:49 PM:

" So, because people were screaming for blood you wanted to invade Iraq? "

to In The Know: wrote on Oct 19, 2007 3:23 PM:

" Why is it when someone stands behind a leader, people automatically remind us of Hitler? I remember when the planes hit the World trade Center and the Pentagon. People were screaming for blood and Bush was under fire for "dragging his feet" and not "serving justice" to the people behind the terrorism. Bush went through the proper channels and got the backing of the United nations before going to war and he told us then that it would be a long haul. Anyone who reads history knows that Lincoln went through the same persecution and was not very popular when we were in the midst of the Civil War. Even Roosevelt had his enemies. Sometimes people just need to vent their anger and use the man at the helm as a scapegoat. It's too bad we forget so soon. "

HAHA wrote on Oct 19, 2007 12:01 PM:

" Sorry, I guess I didn't explain myself very well, but the government has to use tax money (that COULD go for Iraq) to make-up the social security shortage. I agree, I plan to make more social security money than I paid in, but truly that extra income will probably come from taxes that I've paid. "

to haha wrote on Oct 19, 2007 10:30 AM:

" how do you plan on retiring? once you're on s.s. you'll recoup everything you've paid in within a matter of years. its a proven fact. tell me how that costs more than it brings in. get a clue. "

HAHA wrote on Oct 19, 2007 9:58 AM:

" The only problem with social security is that it costs more than it brings in. Comparing the cost of it & the materials for Iraq would clue people in. "

SOCIAL SECURITY wrote on Oct 19, 2007 9:36 AM:

" THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH IT!!!! Bush had no idea what can of worms this would be. He definitely found out when he promised to fix it. That brilliant idea got shot down so quick one would think Cheney was given his shotgun back! "

to Go Bush! wrote on Oct 18, 2007 4:30 PM:

" I think it is sad that the taxpayer is paying bills that Israel and the oil companies should be paying. "

To: Pathetic wrote on Oct 18, 2007 4:25 PM:

" You have a good point, except if the Dems are truly asking for too much money, when they should be choosing middle-ground, it would be wasteful for Repubs to agree. Let's get on the ball, Pelosi!!! (By the way, the Dems just LOVE to criticize Bush for spending too much money, but nobody wants to fix Social Security, the REAL problem.) "

Pathetic wrote on Oct 18, 2007 2:57 PM:

" Juuuuuuuust kidding. I don't think it is fair to say that if the government helps pay a child's healthcare bills that people are going to expect the government to pay for everything, which is what you implied. Is healthcare for kids who's families are just above the eligibility requirements for medicaid but can't neccasarily afford good healthcare for their children a bad thing? I don't really see it that way. The problem is that the Repubs and Dems have chosen the issue of Children's Health Care, of all things, as their arena to play politics. Pretty pathetic if you ask me. The Dems sent a bill to Bush that they knew would be vetoed (instead of finding a middle ground) and the Republicans are using this as a tool to argue against more government spending (when the bill that went to the President would expend the program by $8 billion over ten years, which is absolutely nothing in the grand scheme of things, considering we're spending over $2billion a week in Iraq). Politics should not be played when dealing with a child's health. figure it out Congress (that Dems and Repubs) "

Go Bush! wrote on Oct 18, 2007 11:56 AM:

" I'm amazed at the people that try to claim the Bush is against healthcare. The truth of the matter is that he's against the gov't paying bills that parents should be paying. As always, he does know plenty. He knows that if the gov't continues to pay for my kids, I'm going to expect the gov't to pay my bills, too. "

to: Ali wrote on Oct 18, 2007 1:30 AM:

" Exactly the opposite. Yes, other countries are watching us, but Bush is despised by much of the human species, and they are looking to see if we, the people, recognize why. If the first Bush administration was considered an aberration by the rest of the world, the fact that this unstable man sits in the President's chair a second time is unnerving to them. We look a lot better opposing Bush Jr., as in his current 24% approval rating. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 17, 2007 12:27 PM:

" "To Yada Yada", the bitterest and best Democrats of the time (Tower Commission) failed to prove Reagan had knowledge of illegal arms sales, nor other illegal activities of the NSC, although the report stated Reagan "should have known". You know, I should have known my wife was charging-up my credit cards, too, but I didn't until it was too late, because I maintained too much trust in her. In fact, Reagan initially denied knowledge of the arms sales to Iran and money transfer to the freedom fighters of Nicaragua, but upon learning of it, Reagan fired those responsible and cooperated fully with the Tower Commission, including personal testimony. North and Poindexter were not found guilty of trafficking in arms, but rather on lesser counts like lying to Congress, obstruction of justice, conspiracy and altering documents; their convictions were vacated on appeal because the convictions were based upon Congressionally granted immunity statements. That's what history will reveal. "

kju wrote on Oct 17, 2007 11:32 AM:

" what they believed they had to do, notwithstanding the law. Today, since the law has changed, are they still criminals? Yes, but their guilt is assuaged, isn't it? There is often a difference between the letter of the law and what is right under the circumstances. (Incidentally, there is no positive correlation between Ollie North and the slave trade. That is a non sequitur). There are 10s times10s of millions of us who defend Ollie's patriotic activities. Also, consider that every one of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence committed criminal "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 17, 2007 10:16 AM:

" Dear "confused", your pseudonym serves you righteously. The gestalt of my argument is laws are often transitory. Such as, women who became criminals by obtaining illegal abortions. They did what they believed they had to do, notwithstanding the law. Today, since the law has changed, are they still criminals? Yes, but their guilt is assuaged, isn't it? There is often a difference between the letter of the law and what is right under the circumstances. (Incidentally, there is no positive correlation between Ollie North and the slave trade. That is a non sequitur). There are 10s times10s of millions of us who defend Ollie's patriotic activities. Also, consider that every one of the signatories of the Declaration of Independence committed criminal acts according to the laws of Colonial America. Those "criminals", as you would brand them, are my heroes for defying the law, and OLLIE IS MY HERO FOR DEFYING THE LAW for the same reason. And, I could not care less how you and your leftist comrads feel about it. "

Thera56 wrote on Oct 16, 2007 4:50 PM:

" Loyalty to the Constitution of the United States, yes. Loyalty to a backasswards draft-dodger who wipes his butt with it daily? I don't think so. "

Ali wrote on Oct 16, 2007 11:32 AM:

" The main reason that we should be loyal to our President is because other countries are watching us. For example, suppose you're a teacher getting ready for parent/teacher conferences. The best indication of what the parents will be like is knowledge gained from the child. If the child has good comments about the parent, the teacher will expect a fine set of parents, as opposed to the child that makes comments such as, "My parents are selfish or stupid." Hence, our own country has raised the eyebrows of other countries by making such comments as Bush is in it only for the oil. These actions are like shooting ourselves in the foot! "

why? wrote on Oct 16, 2007 1:08 AM:

" Bush needs to be loyal to me and the rest of the country. He isn't God for me to be loyal to. The only thing he'll go down in history for is for being the 1st President with a below normal IQ! The man was less than qualified for the job and let me remind you that he did NOT win the popular vote. "

Loyal wrote on Oct 15, 2007 7:35 PM:

" I prefer being loyal to the country, not to this President, thank you. "

to: The Decider wrote on Oct 14, 2007 2:17 PM:

" Can't tell the truth any simpler than that. Right on the money. "

Your enemy wrote on Oct 13, 2007 7:24 PM:

" Larry says that "we should trust our president even if his judgment seems unwise." Larry claims a reason, but there is no legitimate reason given. Why, Larry? Because the president might know a secret? There are no secrets when it comes to killing my boy, Larry. Get over your worship of evil, Larry. If the president is to be worshipped, will you worship the next one? Larry, you are my enemy and I'm on the way to Bloomington. "

mickwd1 wrote on Oct 13, 2007 10:31 AM:

" I am going to presume you mean all presidents, since you quoted Mr. Lincoln. And let us begin with that wise maxim by him: many, including the current president, fail completely in these areas. I agree on some points, but your hypothesis misses the mark politically and is at odds with republican style government's fundamentals. Disloyalty is at least forgivable. However, ignorance and stupidity on the part of the citizenry is not. I would conclude with a quote from Ronald Reagan re trust: Trust but verify. That, the president could not do, and moreover, we the people have failed to demand it of him. "

I tip my hat to BNR wrote on Oct 12, 2007 12:03 PM:

" Larry (or do you prefer BN Republican?), you are truly gifted. You work magic with your satire, and do it so subtley that many of the readers don't even know what is happening. You are the master! "

To Yada Yada wrote on Oct 12, 2007 11:57 AM:

" Seems there is no snappy come back for Reagan's traitorous act of arming, aiding and abetting, a sworn enemy of the United States. Treason, plain and simple. The man knew it. Then lied about it. Treason is treason. Of course, this WAS the reason the American hostages in Iran were released on Reagan's Inauguration Day. The Reagan people had already made the deal with Iran even before he took office. Gonna make the Gipper look good. History has a way of revealing all. "

The Decider, wrote on Oct 11, 2007 9:39 PM:

" is a dumb A&$, plain and simple. He will go down as the worst President in history, period. "

Don't Think So Again wrote on Oct 11, 2007 3:19 PM:

" In 2005, The Decider who knows more than us, went to Brazil, where he promtly asked the Brazilian President if Brazil has a lot of black people. Condi quickly jumped and in explained to Bush that Brazil is largely made up of Africans. Bush perhaps thought Pele was Swedish. "

Mike wrote on Oct 11, 2007 2:19 PM:

" Regarding the letter (I haven't read the comments), Americans do not have to be loyal to the President. What makes this country great is we are all allowed to have any opinion we want. Cooper is obviously a Republican and he says " Democrats and SOME Republicans [are disloyal]". So I wonder if he was loyal to Clinton as president. And if he wasn't loyal to Clinton, that's just fine. And as we learned from the great minds of South Park in the episode about supporting our troops or speaking out against the war, if we do both then the world can't really complain about us because part of our population agrees with them. "

Don't think so wrote on Oct 11, 2007 2:17 PM:

" I wouldn't go as far as to say that Bush knows more than the rest of us. In early 2003, I knew there were Sunni, Shia and Kurds in Iraq. Super Bowl day 2003, shortly before the invasion of Iraq , some experts were explaining the ethnic make up of the country Bush had already determined to invade. They tried to explain the imminent problems between the Sunni and Shia, and the Trurks and Kurds and so forth. "Aye thought they were all Moslems" said our cracker jack President. "

re: to Citizen Jim wrote on Oct 11, 2007 2:05 PM:

" Under Bush, we have done eavesdropping to gain information on terrorist attempts. While some may not consider this technique admirable, it has worked. Also, we frequently hear of Al Queda being killed in Iraq, which is the group that many terrorists are associated with, most notably those of the Twin Towers disaster. Did Kerry even have a plan to deal with terrorists? Fortunately, so far, we seemed to have fared better than London with their subway bombings and the riots, in France. Granted, I'm not sure how much credit Bush should receive for this unless he has a very strong prayer life. "

Re: to: Oath of Office wrote on Oct 11, 2007 12:24 PM:

" Yes, yes it is ironic. "

to: Oath of Office wrote on Oct 11, 2007 11:54 AM:

" And isn't it ironic that both themselves avoided combat. Cheney, perhaps the globe's most powerful and prolific war monger, cleverly sidestepped danger on 5 calls and opportunities to serve. "

Oath of Office wrote on Oct 11, 2007 11:46 AM:

" Bush swore to uphold the Constitution. Well, he basically took a cr%p all over it. So, I will follow no one who thinks they are above the law. If it were up to me, Bush and Cheney would be charged with one count of accessory to murder for every soldier who has died in Iraq and one count of accessory to commit murder for every soldier injured in Iraq. That would keep these two pathetic, sorry excuses for politicians (and humans)in prison for the rest of their pathetic lives. "

Townie wrote on Oct 11, 2007 11:33 AM:

" Be loyal to the president; he knows more than us...uh, since when? Mr. Cooper, I beg to differ. I'd be more than happy to challenge him at....a spelling bee. That's s-t-r-a-t-e-g-y...not s-t-r-a-t-e-g-e-R-y. I win. Oh, and before anyone responds by saying the ability to spell isn't really a good point on proving intellect, I'd just like to remind you that our beloved president did cocaine. Google it if you don't believe me. He can't confirm or deny that, during a period of time, he did cocaine...oh yeah, he's an old drunk too. "

to: to Citizen Jim wrote on Oct 10, 2007 11:50 PM:

" "Nonetheless, if Kerry had won, the terrorists may have overcome by now and we wouldn't be worrying about this next election. " Think about this statement you made. Rather absurd isn't it, to presume George Bush is fighting terrorism by turning away from terrorism and invading Iraq. Is he scaring terrorism by doing this? How? They were going to take us over if Kerry won? How? How would they get here undetected? Where would they gather to launch their invasion? How would they do this, send each other e-mails? Where will they get the ships and planes for this scheme? How would they avoid our defense system? Given this any thought? "

to: Robot King wrote on Oct 10, 2007 11:37 PM:

" Congress is not forever immune from the American people, and the American people want out of Iraq. The low ratings show a frustration that things could not be accomplished as expected. You can put all the ribbons on your car you want, but the fact is we have a mess in Iraq for which there is no military solution. The war was easily won, but the occupation is lost. "

hummmm wrote on Oct 10, 2007 10:58 PM:

" you sure judy didnt write this?? "

Robot King wrote on Oct 10, 2007 7:48 PM:

" I'll tell you what our boys overseas need - the good ol' can't-do attitude of our Democrat Congress! Think of the morale boost they get when Senators tell them that not only is the war lost, but they're murderers as well! Keep it up, Democrats! There's a reason this Congress (which was, of course, given a mandate by the people) has the lowest approval rating ever. "

To: Citizen Jim wrote on Oct 10, 2007 3:44 PM:

" All Bush had to do to go down in the history books was become President. The rest has been the icing on the cake. Nonetheless, if Kerry had won, the terrorists may have overcome by now and we wouldn't be worrying about this next election. "

citizen jim wrote on Oct 10, 2007 2:02 PM:

" George Bush is a legal crook. Face it! Its about oil and money and maybe his chance to be in the history books. He doesn't care about you or me. Read the history of his family and you'll see what his whole family was about. Money and greed. Its not about democrat or republican issues, its about him. He does not care about any Christian values. If you believe this your'e in a dream world. I voted for him and I admit I was wrong; so wrong. Can't wait till he's out of here. When its all said and done he'll go down as one of the more unpopular presidents of all time; even worse that Willie Clinton. "

About Sex wrote on Oct 9, 2007 10:13 PM:

" Hopefully, when a President has sex, he at least knows who the other person is. That may not always be true when dealing with weapons, in this case it's much easier for the other party to lie about what their intentions are. Let's not confuse lies with insufficient knowledge. "

anon. wrote on Oct 9, 2007 8:08 PM:

" Incidentally, I think BN Republican is a parody coming from a left-winger. If so, well done: it's a completely accurate description of the Bush-worshippers' views, but phrased in a way which includes words they just wouldn't use (like "authority figure"). "

confused wrote on Oct 9, 2007 8:05 PM:

" YadaYada, attempting to defend the criminal Oliver North (convicted among other things of selling weapons to Iran), wrote: "Just remember this about the law. Before it was illegal to sell munitions to Iran, it was legal. And, before it was illegal in America to participate in the slave trade, it was legal." Apparently, applying your attitude to Oliver North, you think that if someone like him now participated in the *slave trade*, that would make them a hero ?!?!? Way to discredit yourself. "

Yes William Jefferson Clinton wrote on Oct 9, 2007 7:08 PM:

" But it's the sex that fascinates the fare right of the Republican party. Always the sex. That's why so many of them end up in bathrooms in Minneapolis tapping their feet., or having sex in the Congressional parking lot while they are trying to impeach another guy who at least took his sex indoors, and tried to do it quietly. "

to: demoCRATS wrote on Oct 9, 2007 7:03 PM:

" Your last statement is nuts. You say "His only real mistake is using soldiers on bagdad instead of B-52 bombers. " Have you thought this through? Who would you want to bomb? Sunni? Maybe Shia, or is it Kurds? Would you bomb women and children before democracy takes hold? Do you think we could sustain any world respect at all, and our own safety world wide, by going into a country and boming their civillians? Are you living in WW2? "

Reagan and Rumsfeld wrote on Oct 9, 2007 6:05 PM:

" Reagan and Rumsfeld gave Saddam Weapons of Mass Destruction which he used on his own people during George Herbert Walker Bush's term. I ask you "democRATS" why did Neo-Conservative WarMongers Love Saddam Hussein so much? THat is the question. If Saddam was such a menace as Jr. claimed, why didn't his Daddy do something about it? Why did Pappa suggest "Operation Freedom(LOL)" was a bad idea? "

i feel sorry for you wrote on Oct 9, 2007 4:10 PM:

" How dare you invoke God when there's so much apathy in your heart!!! God will not bless you for being insensitive to innocent people dying and also for not using your brains! You are a disgrace to Republicans. Saddam Hussein is dead - get new arguments. "

democRATS wrote on Oct 9, 2007 3:36 PM:

" God Bless George !!! He has to fight Terrorist AND Democrats.... His only real mistake is using soldiers on bagdad instead of B-52 bombers. Why do democrats love saddam so much ????? "

William Jefferson Clinton wrote on Oct 9, 2007 2:39 PM:

" "I did not have sexual relations with that woman." Well, I did. But, I never sold weapons of mass destruction to Iraq, or weapons to Iran, or invaded a country I helped arm, or cause the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people, then ride off into the sunset. No. I brokered a deal with drug corporations to provide low cost pharmeceuaticals for people in Africa (something my GOP Congress wouldn't let me do here). I have raised Trillions of Dollars for the good of mankind. Even, teehee, I take a great amount of pleasure in saying, brought America out of trillions of dollars deficit caused by Reagan and Bush I, brought 25 million people out of poverty, handed a Republican Congress a Balanced Budget time and time again. Heck, I even gave George Bush a Budget Surplus. "

For Yada, tu-tu wrote on Oct 9, 2007 11:07 AM:

" You applaud the illegal sale of weapons to Iran, an avowed enemy of the United States? I find that odd. In 1986, President Reagan went on television, looked directly into the camera, and told Americans, the U.S. did not sell weapons to Iran. Then, one week later Reagan was back on television saying, indeed, WE DID. To re-iterate, Reagan went on camera and LIED to the American public about the illegal sale of arms to Iran (of course, The Great Liar KNEW). And further, he knew that the U.S. used the profits to fund an ILLEGAL war in Latin America. This LIE cost thousands, upon thousands of people their lives. Congress couldn’t find "Reagan's Complicity," because the Felon, Ollie North, had his secretary, Fawn Hall, SHRED all evidence (which is also illegal) of the Arms for Hostages Sale. So, it is a wonder anyone was convicted of these TREASONOUS crimes? Poor Bill Casey might have even committed suicide. Truman once said "The Buck Stops Here." Too bad Reagan, or GWB, didn’t believe this. Neither are heroes. Rather BOTH are TREASONOUS LIARS. "

JD wrote on Oct 9, 2007 8:58 AM:

" Patriotism has nothing to do with following the President. Patriotism is the love of ones country, and in the US that includes love of the Constitution. The same writing which this President intentionally weakened with the 'Patriot' Act. It is this mentality that blindly following a leader, just because they are the leader, that has put many a tyrant in charge. The most patriot thing anyone can do it monitor and question not just the President, but all politicians. If you read the thoughts of our forefathers, you will see that they suggest the same thing. Blind obedience is the most unpatriotic thing one can do. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 9, 2007 8:38 AM:

" Dear "To Yada, too", the Democrat Congress held hearings ad infinitum, ad nauseum regarding Reagan's knowledge of Iran-Contra. After months and months and millions and millions of taxpayer dollars spent, the Democrats were unable to show evidence of complicity on Reagan's part. But, in answer to your question, yes, I hold in high esteem the brave men like Ollie North, who did the right thing, not the lawful thing, supporting the Nicaraguan freedom fighters' valiant struggle against Communism. And, I fully applaud the illegal sales of TOW missles to Iran to use their war with Saddam. Just remember this about the law. Before it was illegal to sell munitions to Iran, it was legal. And, before it was illegal in America to participate in the slave trade, it was legal. So, legality is not so much a matter of idology as it is a termporal function. "

To Yada, too wrote on Oct 8, 2007 4:28 PM:

" Of your loyalty to President Ronald Reagan, does it not matter that President Reagan illegally sold arms to Iran, at an illegally inflated cost, only to fund his illegal operations in Latin America? It was, and still is, illegal to "mark up" the price of weapons sold to foreign entities. And, Congress did not support the interventions in Latin America. Reagan, knowingly, had his administration break federal laws. Felons, the lot of them. Well, at least, until George HW Bush's pardons. "

To: Huckleberry wrote on Oct 8, 2007 3:47 PM:

" You're fighting the wrong war. This one hasn't drafted anyone. "

to: Stinko wrote on Oct 8, 2007 12:14 PM:

" But is MY children learning? lol "

to: they have democracy wrote on Oct 8, 2007 12:12 PM:

" No, what they have is chaos. Malaki is at best, mayor of the Green Zone. He has virtually no sway over Sunni and Kurds, and what Shia (majority) power he has, he derives from Sadr. The democracy part is an illusion. The current fight is not for democracy, it's for trying to achieve some semblence of stability. "

to: Newsflash wrote on Oct 8, 2007 12:06 PM:

" Correct about WMD, but it was more than just imagination, it was marketing. Wolfowitz said "we had to decide on something", and Feith said before he left DOD, "perhaps we overplayed the WMD...." "

Americans or Hypocrites? wrote on Oct 8, 2007 11:22 AM:

" I just had to post considering all the comments this story has generated. So if there's all these problems and all you posters seem to know the solution - elect better government, how come voter turn out is so low? Why don't I see more diverse candidates running for office? Is it that it's easier to complain when you can't be bothered to be part of the solution? Isn't it easier to say, well, in that situation I would have done this, after the fact (hindsight is always 20/20)? "

baron wrote on Oct 8, 2007 11:07 AM:

" instead of everyone complaining about all this,we can put him and his 'friends' out of a job.we put them,we can putthem out!! "

Huckleberry wrote on Oct 8, 2007 10:02 AM:

" To Larry from Clinton. Hey Larry got any kids draft age? How long do you think the Decider would fight this war? I'll bet if they started the draft, and your son or daughter had to go to Iraq or Iran and fight, you wouldn't think W was such a genius. "

Its not just about democracy! wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:57 AM:

" and if it was, Darfur, Myanmar and even China would be attacked. Its ONLY about oil. "

Stinko wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:54 AM:

" Childrens do learn. "

Newsflash! wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:52 AM:

" Saddam did NOT have weapons of mass distruction! It was a fabrication of this administration's vivid imagination! "

what's.. wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:42 AM:

" 'argumentation'? its hillarious to read all this! "

they have democracy?! wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:32 AM:

" go ask them if they think they have democracy now?! Which world do you live in?! They are suffering with power outages and cholera outbreaks and you're being told they have democracy! I question our idea of democracy anymore! "

Lefty wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:22 AM:

" I loved Saddam. He was just wanting to make this world a better place to live; and we had the nerve to invade his country and kill his sons. He was a sovereign leader and if wanted to have weapons of mass destruction that was his own business. "

MAX wrote on Oct 7, 2007 11:49 PM:

" Can anyone think of another country in history that invaded another country, spent it's own lives and treasury in order for the vanquished country to have democracy? It just doesn't happen folks. "

,,, wrote on Oct 7, 2007 9:57 PM:

" Trust and Loyalty must be earned. They do not come with the title in the United States of America. To some Bush never earned it from them. To me he lost it and probably can not earn it back. This is a sad state of things however it is the current situation. "

transplant to BN wrote on Oct 7, 2007 6:20 PM:

" All I can say is this is a real load of bollocks. What with the uneducated unfounded proclamations of superiority set forth by the likes of YadaYada. By the way what kinda langer what pick such phrase for them self. Yadayada just mean the rest of whatever else is irrelevant. One the other hand maybe it be better they start out with that just so everyone knows it don't matter what they say. You would think with the way they talk they don't think the man can do anything wrong. No wander we are in the mess we are. "

to: Willy wrote on Oct 7, 2007 5:58 PM:

" Bush has no right to force anyone into any form of government. No one asked Bush to invade, shut down their way of life, shut down water and electricity, create chaos, kill and wound their kids, send them to Abu Ghraib, make the best and brightest flee, in order to establish democracy. On top of that, he wastes precious US dollars, kills and wounds our toops, breaks the military and divides the country. For what? So Iraq can have "democracy"? As Senator Fritz Hollings said before he retired " "They're intersted in religion, they don't care about democracy." "

ES wrote on Oct 7, 2007 5:57 PM:

" I doubt that the Pentagram has the courage to print this, but here goes: anyone who follows Bush is a complete moron. Why have loyalty to a guy who would sacrifice and kill your children for no other reason besides oil and re-election. Any person who does not question King George the Frightening ought to consider him or herself a toady, a lacky, and a gullible patsy. Are you reading Yada Yada. Go sacrifice your kids. "

Oh my.... wrote on Oct 7, 2007 10:53 AM:

" I just threw up in my mouth. If it smells like a rat, looks like a rat and has the DNA of a rat, then it is a rat. If Bush smells like a liar, looks like a liar and has the DNA of a liar (Daddy said no new taxes), then Bush is a liar. Ralph Naderski "

vern wrote on Oct 7, 2007 9:57 AM:

" This lad needs a bit of study in argumentation. No, he needs a lot of study. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 7, 2007 5:59 AM:

" When they can't argue the facts, they start the ad hominem person attacks. It is a certain sign they have lost the debate. "

smiles wrote on Oct 7, 2007 12:18 AM:

" YadaYada has no life beside posting on the pantagraph... "

Swine wrote on Oct 6, 2007 11:10 PM:

" Yada Yada has proven himself to be of the same swinely ilk which brought you Watergate and Iran-Contra. He is Real American Patriot. "

News wrote on Oct 6, 2007 7:04 PM:

" And you hide your isolation, Yada, with words like "none of us". You make some preposterous analogies like someone who is either undeducated or delusional. "

News wrote on Oct 6, 2007 6:57 PM:

" Actually, as has been said before, the child is you. Your arguments are like "you've got cooties". You are a desperate character my friend, and I think you know it. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 6, 2007 6:21 PM:

" "Willie", now you've gone and done it. You have become a beacon of truth in the midst of ignorance. Warning! They are like zombies. Once they discover you, they are drawn to you and can't leave you alone, because you are alive and different from them. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 6, 2007 6:06 PM:

" That's typical, "News". You continue to express your personal political proclivities couched in unsupportable terms and quotes you attribute to others. You say such things as Buchanan's "real position (taken from an earlier article) is pretty much as follows". That's childish subterfuge, "News". None of us wants to hear "pretty much" what you thought Buchanan said. And, none of us wants to hear your interpretation of some unspecified poll, with unspecified question format, that you fantacize had a negative reflection of GWB. The truth in all polls is: most Americans think the Iraq War (Bush War) is winnable and they want to stay the course. The leading Democrat candidates for president have already validated the Bush War by acknowledging their intent to stay the course, which, as I specifically said, mirrors the will of the American people. You are in denial, "News". Go in your closet, curl-up in the fetal position and suck your thumb until this Bush War has been won. "

well wrote on Oct 6, 2007 5:13 PM:

" I should hope the President has more info than the man on the street!!! "

News wrote on Oct 6, 2007 1:33 PM:

" Actually Yada, Buchanan and others have been talking the "Bush War" long before the article you picked out. He and others tried mightily to stop the Bush War, and his real position (taken from an earlier article) is pretty much as follows: "As for this country, the argument over who is responsible for the worst strategic debacle in American history will be poisonous. With a U.S. defeat in Iraq, U.S. prestige would plummet across the region. Who will rely on a U.S. commitment for its security? Like the British and French before us, we will be heading home from the Middle East. What we are about to witness is how empires end." "

News wrote on Oct 6, 2007 1:32 PM:

" Actually Yada, Buchanan and others have been talking the "Bush War" long before the article you picked out. He and others tried mightily to stop the Bush War, and his real position (taken from an earlier article) is pretty much as follows article: "As for this country, the argument over who is responsible for the worst strategic debacle in American history will be poisonous. With a U.S. defeat in Iraq, U.S. prestige would plummet across the region. Who will rely on a U.S. commitment for its security? Like the British and French before us, we will be heading home from the Middle East. What we are about to witness is how empires end." "

Willy wrote on Oct 6, 2007 12:48 PM:

" ok...you said that "statistically, most of the highest educated people in this country are Democrats." The truth is that most credible studies indicate that highly educated people are about evenly split between the Democrat and Republican parties. You also said that "the majority of proffessors (sic) are Democrats." No surprise there. The liberal baby boomers have invaded academia, hoping to manipulate impressionable young minds. "

Willy wrote on Oct 6, 2007 12:31 PM:

" To all the Bush haters who responded to my original post. Your hatred blinds you to the facts. Bush had an SAT score that put him in the top 16% of incoming freshmen. He finished in the middle of his class at Yale (he readily admits that he partied too much). He finished near the top of his class at Harvard Business School, where he earned an MBA. He was a successful businessman and a successful governor before he ran for president. In regard to his vision, he wants to lay the groundwork that will protect America from terror attacks well into the future. And he wants to plant a democracy in Iraq that will be a beacon of hope to all of the people who are living under tyrannical Muslim theocracies. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 6, 2007 11:33 AM:

" "News", the Buchanan quote, did that come from Pat's 09-01-07 column in which Pat said, "Today, the United States has 30,000 more troops in Iraq than on the day America repudiated the Bush war policy and voted the GOP out of power. And President Bush, self-confidence surging, is now employing against Iran a bellicosity redolent of the days just prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom. What gives Bush his new cockiness? The total collapse of the antiwar coalition on Capitol Hill and the breaking of the Congress. Fifty-four percent of the nation believes, contra Harry Reid, the war is not lost. That is twice the support that Bush enjoys for his war leadership, a paltry 27 percent. BUT, BY NINE TO ONE, BUSH's LEADERSHIP ON THE WAR IS PREFERRED TO THAT OF THE CONGRESS OF NANCY PELOSI AND HARRY REID. Thank you, "News". You have persuaded me that the "Iraq War" should be called "Bush's War", indeed! Now, what were interpreting from your little poll, again? "

News wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:09 AM:

" Polling questions are readily available with research. Obviously, you have never been polled, so you don't know what they ask. I have. What they do is this: a. they research to create a representative sampling of Americans b. if you're one, they'll call you up c. they identitfy themselves and state their purpose d. they might ask your party affiliation e. they ask if you support Bush, strongly, moderately, or not at all, or with terminology along those lines. All and all Yada, it is just not that diffiult. Look up some polling data to get yourself up to snuff. "

News wrote on Oct 6, 2007 10:01 AM:

" About the "Bush War". Ah, but neocon ideology carried out is in itself a departure from American convention, not to mention a departure from conservatism. What bona fide conservatives, you ask, call Iraq the Bush War? Pat Buchanan has been doing so for at least a couple of years, and specifically predicts that this will be the historical term. Newspapers in the heartland have also used the term, as well as newspapers such as the slightly left Guardian in London. I've also seen the term used in newspapers of other countries. On the left, Robert Parry has used the term often. I have seen the term hundreds of times, and because of the strangeness of this war, I too believe it will carry on as an out of the ordinary name. "

to: CI Resident wrote on Oct 6, 2007 9:42 AM:

" Yada can't help himself. He does not like people. Has dreams of creating and slaying enemies. Better to vent on the computer. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:38 PM:

" I think I understand what you mean, "CI resident". That was so beautiful. What you are saying is, this is America and everyone has the right to publicly proclaim whatever it is they want to say without ever being challenged on the merit of their public statements. Since that is everyone's rights, naturally, you will also protect my right to say whatever it is I want to publicly say without anyone challenging my statements? Incidentally, would you explain more simply what you meant when you said: "People feel that we were lied to when Bush stated the CF that is the war in Iraq." I'm gonna go "chill" now and wait for your reply. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:54 PM:

" Dear "News", mind sharing the names of bona fide conservatives who say that the "Iraq War" will become known as the "Bush War"? That would be an ironic, sudden depature from convention. I don't recall WWII becoming known as the "Roosevelt War". I don't recall the "Vietnam Conflict" or "Vietnam War" becoming known as the "Kennedy War" or the "Johnson War". "

CI resident wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:23 PM:

" Yada Get off your high horse. You must like bullying people around. You might not like what people say, however you do not need to go off on them. People feel that Bush has betrayed their trust. People feel that we were lied to when Bush stated the CF that is the war in Iraq. You need to let people just say what they need to say, just chill out. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:36 PM:

" Dear "reader comments = Train Wreck", I missed the part where you presented reliable evidence that GWB, as you alleged, "is a crook" and "has betrayed the trust of the American people" Kindly, resubmit that evidence so that it can be cross examined. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:29 PM:

" "News", can I take that as a "No", you will not share the polling questions? "

News wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:05 PM:

" Now Yada, don't come unglued any further, but the reason I chose to call the Bush War the "Bush War" is because some pretty good minds, both conservative and left of conservative, predict it to be the term history will place on the fiasco. I tend to agree. "

reader comments = Train Wreck wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:46 PM:

" This has all gone out the window. Yada is coming unglued and about to run off the tracks. All I can say is that Bush is a crook and anyone that still supports him after he has betrayed the trust of the American people are either fanatics or stupid. Fanatics are always dangerous. It does not matter what they are fanatical about religions Islam or Christian, or leaders unquestioning support is very dangerous. "

News wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:10 PM:

" Yada, you are indeed unglued. "

Willy's Willy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:09 PM:

" It is a stretch of credulity and a violation against the human spirit to compare Bush to Lincoln. One has only to read a Lincoln speech and reflect upon it, and then look into the eyes of GWB as he reads a speech to understand the ocean of difference. Or, you just tune into Dave Letterman and watch "Great Moments in Presidential Speeches". "

ok wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:41 PM:

" Actually, statiscally, most of the highest educated people in this country are Democrats. The majority of proffessors in this country are Democrats. President Bush graduated in the lower percentile of his class. I was serving in Viet Nam when President Bush was hiding in the Air National Guard in Texas, which by the way was a haven for the children of important people...thanks to a democrat named Johnson who, through executive order, exempted the National Guard from being deployed to Viet Nam...makes George a poorly educated draft dodger in my book! " to: Our Nation wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:20 PM: " "I believe that those that are willing to give up their freedom for safety deserve neither. " How can you possibly use that statement from Ben Franklin and support the Bush Jr. regime when the Bush Jr. regime has peddled fear in order to grab our freedom? Furthermore, the reason Bush Jr. does not change his mind is because he is arrogantly incapable. Only a fool does not adjust to the elements of change in his life. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:36 PM:

" "News", stop it. Puuleeeze: "talk trash almost like a child"....what are you, some dude from the hood? Or, do you just throw the lingo around hoping to persuade people you are actually "cool" and are to be trusted? One overwhelming example of your JADEDNESS is your characterization of the "Iraq War" as the "Bush war". Do you wish to redeem yourself? Then you must identify the poll to which you make reference and disclose the questionaire exactly as it was presented to the respondents of the poll. You can not possibly interpret a poll without knowing how the questions were framed. Grasp the gestalt, yet? "News", ask your friends and relatives to take a poll about you. Answer the following poll question either "yes" or "no": "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:35 PM:

" ("News", continued) "Does "News" still molest little children"? Answering "yes" results in "News" being a child molester. Answering "No" results in "News" being a child molester in remission or a former child molester, and as everyone knows, or thinks they know, there is no cure for child molesters; we are told molesters are compelled to molest again and again. So, they are never really cured. Once a child molester, always a child molester. Either way, "News", the results of the poll prove beyond any doubt that you are a child molester. Since you like percentages, "News", my poll concludes that 100% of friends and relatives of "News", consider "News" to be a child molester. And, that's a lot higher than the 29% of Republicans who strongly suppor Bush, eh? Three times as many people believe "News" is a child molester than Republicans who strongly support Bush. Isn't this fun, interpreting polls, "News"? "

Stinko wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:16 PM:

" True, blind loyalty is totally idiotic. I don't think the history books will be kind to W. I really can't see him on the same level as Lincoln. "

Willy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:47 PM:

" President Bush is much smarter than his critics give him credit for, and a better person than most of the people who attack him. In our history, we had another intelligent president who was ridiculed as stupid simply because he had a folksy way of expressing himself. He also pursued an unpopular war because he believed that it was in the best long-term interest of the country. History proved President Lincoln to be correct, and it will do the same for President Bush. A true visionary president is never appreciated by his contemporaries. "

News wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:45 PM:

" lYada, you talk trash almost like a child. What part of my interpretation of the poll numbers are jaded? Do you blelieve that GWB is a trusted and well thought of man? Do you believe Americans are firmly behind the Bush war? Do you believe more than 29% OF REPUBLICANS stongly Support bush? What exactly do the numbers mean to you? "

Would you say the same wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:34 AM:

" about Bill Clinton? You can simply change the name of the president and that letter works the opposite way. "

you guys are so loyal wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:25 AM:

" you should marry Bush! "

hey guys wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:13 AM:

" Thanks pantagraph, the pit bull story is finally gone!! "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:39 AM:

" "News", like you reported: The poll says what it says. But, obviously that didn't prevent you from offering your own jaded interpretation, did it? Well, what's good for the goose is good for the gander, except you don't like it when you are the one getting goosed. As the good book says: Do unto others as you would have others do unto you. You ignored that good advice and paid the price. It will happen every time, I promise. "

plaid braisley wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:21 AM:

" so bush jr. has info we can't have access to. that's a reason we should blindly trust his judgment ? i'm not sure i can make that leap of logic. on sept.12 2001,america had the majority of the non-muslim world on our side.in 6 years bush has turned world opinion against the u.s. at the very time we needed other nations cooperation the most.his cronies in the oil biz have benefited from the rising cost of oil.he inspires resistance from our allies with his "my way or the hiway" treatment."nucular" is not the pronunciation for the word nuclear.(last sentence not important but i couldn't resist.) "

I Call BS wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:41 PM:

" Yada you just want to poke the hornets nest with the same BS that you just spew over and over again. You will just keep getting stung. "

News Again wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:26 PM:

" What is it Yada, do you not believe my poll? Do you believe a majority of Americans support Bush? Perhaps most Americans really like the war, and just misinterpreted the polling question? Your analysis, as usual is a little off the wall. "

News wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:23 PM:

" The poll says what it says. As has been pointed out here before, Congress traditionally has a lower rating than the President, it the nature of the game. The President is rarely in the basement as long as Bush has been though. Other studies have shown that much of the dislike of Congress is targeted at the Republican obstructionists. They, the Rep[ublicans who hold out for Bush, will begin to peel off fairly soon though. Can't get elected. Bush/Cheney, on the other hand, could care less about the future of the Republican party. "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 4, 2007 8:32 PM:

" "News", help me interpret the following poll: The AP - Ipsos poll, 10/1-3/07, shows Congressional Approval at 22%, disapproval at 73%. I suspect the 22% approval reflects the number of Republicans who approve of their represention and the 73% is the Democrats who disapprove of their representation. Yes? No? "

YadaYada wrote on Oct 4, 2007 8:23 PM:

" Dear "G. Gordon Libby ": Hey, hey, Gordo, good to hear from you again, bro. As usual, we mutually agree on everything under the sun, except the spelling of your surname. "

G. Gordon Libby wrote on Oct 4, 2007 4:09 PM:

" Like Yada, I'm still loyal to my President. "

News wrote on Oct 4, 2007 3:14 PM:

" Today's poll reveals that 31% of the American public supports Bush. 69% of Republicans support Bush. 29% of Republicans strongly support Bush. Somewhere between 10-11% of the American public stongly supports Bush. Must be that the public doesn't think he knows more than us. "

to D.M. wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:46 PM:

" so what if you met Dubya and his family? It doesn't matter to any of us one bit! Get used to it - he is leaving and its aout time "

We're All Disposable wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:33 PM:

" Do you really think a bunch of people living in caves could pull something like 9/11 off? 9/11 was an inside job, like the gulf of Tonkin and many others that are now declassified. Many of the named 9/11 'suicide hijackers' are still alive, they are STILL ALIVE so how did they fly the planes? The Bin Laden tapes have been proven to either be fake or an old tape w/ new words. No one ever sees the retractions. We started and run al-CIAda….we are using them in Iran right now. The Iranians are the opposite sect as al-CIAda…but you and 99% of stupid Americans don’t understand this. "

We're All Disposable wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:32 PM:

" Quit with the Democrat Vs Republican illusion and realize the global elite multi-national corporations own all the horses in the races. It's the illusion of choice. One party does a bad job so you think by voting the other party in you've changed something...WRONG! They've simply changed bird cage liners. The politicians are groomed from college by these elites to push their interests, not mine or yours. You people need to wake up to the real issues and get your heads out of the sand. Our country is being destroyed. We've been flooded w/ illegals, all our production moved overseas, the only thing we had left was the dollar but it is now about dead. We pay 35% of our income to a for PROFIT private banking system known as the federal reserve. Soon we will be living in a 3rd world cest pool. This has all been laid out 100's of years ago and is being eased in. "

We're All Disposable wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:22 PM:

" Wat Tyler - The same constitution that W said was justs a GD piece of paper...you call free speech zones free? All the illegal spying, what 4th amendment? PDD 51 where W declares himself dictator, handing over continuity of gov't to the UN, repealing habeous corpous and posse commentadus, allowing torture, tripling the BATF funding, double the number of police, hiring the former head of the Stazi Markus Wolfe and the former head of the KGB Gen. Yevgeni Primakov on and on....we are headed into a martial law police state. WAKE UP and see the forest for the trees! The mainstream media has all of you brainwashed. 95% of it is owned by 5 corporations with board members from all the multi-national corporations. They shape your opinions and beliefs. You no longer think for yourself. You go home, drink your beer, and vege out in front of the TV instead of fighting the information war. Our founding fathers despised government and knew that power corrupts and corrupt people seek power. There are no more checks and balances they are on the same payroll. Ron Paul "

W(orst EVER) wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:15 PM:

" His latest stunt of vetoeing a bill for health coverage for lower income children that was largely supported by members of BOTH parties is yet another example of his arrogant style of doing things his oWn Way. He doesn't want to spend $35B over 5 years to help kids who need health coverage but yet he's willing to spend $7B per month in a war that has resulted in the slaughter of thousands of innocent children. He truly will go down in history as the worst president ever. "

to: D.M. wrote on Oct 4, 2007 2:02 PM:

" The idea of using 9-11 an asset for the Bush administration is getting long in tooth. Out of the box, the neocons around Bush Jr. concentrated on the upcoming invasion of Iraq. Had they paid more attention, had then National Security Advisor Condi Rice known about Al Queda, maybe 9-11 could have been averted. But to now say that we are preventing another 9-11 by occupying Iraq is lunacy. "

You know... wrote on Oct 4, 2007 12:48 PM:

" I've voted for Bush twice. Would again if he were running against a Clinton, but what I can't defend and what has stopped me from defending him at all is that We have record gas highs ands a big business oil man in office? Coincidence? I think not. "

D.M. wrote on Oct 4, 2007 11:52 AM:

" I'll take G.W. over Billy Clinton or his horrible wife any day. I've met with George and his family a few times now at his Ranch in Texas and he is what the Country needs. Like it or not. If you don't wake-up to another 9/11 tomorrow, thank your President and his Staff! "

you got all that money? wrote on Oct 4, 2007 11:13 AM:

" Travel abroad - find out what is really going on instead of sitting in your bubble! The world has changed. Nobody cares whether you are Republican or Democrat. America is lonely now. You and your blind faith are a shame to those of us who want true Republican values for this country. Thank God some of us can finally see the damage this administration has done and try to make a change that's good for the country as a whole. Let's start thinking globally or we will be left behind and if you don't care about that, they you are not a true Republican. "

President Bush wrote on Oct 4, 2007 10:14 AM:

" I'm a fraud. "

educated wrote on Oct 4, 2007 9:35 AM:

to: Our Nation wrote on Oct 3, 2007 7:20 PM:

" "I believe that those that are willing to give up their freedom for safety deserve neither. " How can you possibly use that statement from Ben Franklin and support the Bush Jr. regime when the Bush Jr. regime has peddled fear in order to grab our freedom? Furthermore, the reason Bush Jr. does not change his mind is because he is arrogantly incapable. Only a fool does not adjust to the elements of change in his life. "

haha wrote on Oct 3, 2007 2:14 PM:

" lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol "

to democrats, from ThosSpence wrote on Oct 3, 2007 1:59 PM:

" Are you a native english speaker? Given your illiterate prose, why are you lecturing others about poorly educated democrats? "

Huh?!!! wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:27 PM:

" Who is this wise person who is a statistics expert?! You are going to get your feelings hurt in the near future! You already seem bitter and ready to grab at anything you've heard on Fox news! Sorry, our time is coming - you will have to sit and spin such stupid stories in the mean time! If your argument makes sense to you, its time to get a reality check! Compare the intelligence of Bill Clinton and George Bush......enough said right there. "

When we Democrats are in power wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:22 PM:

" all you so called rich 'educated' people can go fight in the war - coz you're dumb enough to think its a legitimate war! YEAH! "

Republicans wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:17 PM:

" make stupid sweeping statements after listening to talking heads like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly. Who is this uneducated person who wrote that Republicans are more educated?! If you're that sure, give us your name and address! Let us see where you live and what you do - most of you are 1 generation away from being a redneck yourself "

who died and made you statistician?! wrote on Oct 3, 2007 12:13 PM:

" give us some proof on your stupid logic that repulicans make more money! That would make rednecks like you suddenly intelligent! Most academicians are Democratically inclined! Most Ivy League schools are progressive and liberal. Who comes up with this bunk?! Choosing to think like Anne Coulter doesn't make you intelligent. "

Democrats wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:46 AM:

" Democrats are statistically less educated and earn less money as than republicans. The Bush haters are typically democrats. Does that mean we should let less educated democrats make the rules and try to end the war. "

strange agreement wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:31 AM:

" I would agree that our president knows more than us regarding the world's precarious political situations. It is for that very reason that there is no reason whatsoever to trust him. He is no different than a con artist, for the exact same reasons you cite, Mr. Cooper. He is no different than a parent that sells their children into slavery, telling them its a trip to the zoo. He is no different than a shepherd that leads his sheep to slaughter, tricking them into believing the slaughterhouse is where their food and bedding are. So, well said, Mr. Cooper. I agree that he knows more than us, and is nearly definable as pure evil for doing what he has done with that knowledge. He has tricked us again and again. He is far from a friend of mine. Likely, more the opposite of a friend. His will be a legacy of infamy, not so different than the dark dictator he helped topple. "

to: no to dems wrote on Oct 3, 2007 11:22 AM:

" regardless of a person's political inclinations, are you SERIOUSLY suggesting anything that transpired in, say, Clinton's administration is even close to the scale of President Bush's miserable mess? I'm nearly speechless at the absurdity of even attempting a comparison. In no way, shape, or form has any president in my lifetime singlehandedly wrecked all possibility for peace and prosperity as George W. Bush has. The awesome scale of the irreversible harm done by our current administration is truly breathtaking. I assure you, you will one day look back from the next world war, or perhaps a completely obliterated Western World, and realize that the moment it really started to spark off was the moment Bush stole the presidency, and every day after. Seriously, make an argument that is at least remotely believable, if you're gonna do it publicly. "

the President, wrote on Oct 3, 2007 8:45 AM:

" is useless. Only you Republicans could vote for someone this mediocre! "

JD wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:40 PM:

" Knowing more does not mean that the decisions were made intelligently or correctly. Regardless of what Bush knows, one has to but listen to him to realize that even though he is President, his intelligence can be questionable at best at certain times. It is his jobs to warn the peoples respects, not expect it to be handed to him because he won a popularity contest 4 years ago. The people are right to question not just Bush, but all positions of government. Politicians are so separated from the people that unless we watch and question them, we will get lost the in aristocracy and nepotism. "

in this is the problem wrote on Oct 2, 2007 10:17 PM:

" Mr. Bush has manged to polarize this nation to the point of failure. This attitude of you are either follow the administrations line or you are not supporting the troops is a load of crap. It is not as simple Red Vs Blue. It is what do we need to do as a country to pull ourselves out of this hole that Bush has dug us into. We need to unite lets minimize the damage buy electing someone that will think first and try to be a diplomat. However if worst comes to worst they need to show real military leadership. We need a leader that will uphold the constitution. The constitution is what makes us the land of the free. Remember it is not as simple as red vs blue, we need a true leadership that will take a fresh look at everything from security to health care, from the loss of manufacturing jobs to the plight of affordable homeownership, from education to the appalling state of pensions. thank you! to the candidates remember we don't want empty promises we want action! "

No to Dems wrote on Oct 2, 2007 7:43 PM:

" God help us all if we're ignorant enought to put a democrat back in the White House. Let's look at the last 2 that were there, Carter and Clinton. Talk about a train wreck. I for one do NOT want to see that happen. If it happens, we just ride out the 4 years, people will come to their senses. "

Pay Up... wrote on Oct 2, 2007 6:00 PM:

" Agreed we all need to pony up the hard cash to pay for this cluster. Why the F*** should as a country we be going so deeply in debt for a vengeful little man. He got restart is daddies' war. The he had the bright idea of getting flown out to that aircraft carrier and proclaiming that major combat operations were done. Obviously if combat was done then the troops should have started coming home. However even at the time it was obvious things were still a fine mess. Liberal Conservative it does not matter this man is only preaching to the choir. Support the Troops Give them a commander and chief that is a real leader. A real leader makes changes when needed they are not so stupid as to stay with one tired line when the situation has so obviously changed. "

I like George wrote on Oct 2, 2007 5:19 PM:

" He is a good guy with a tough job...... "

what else can he do now?! wrote on Oct 2, 2007 4:13 PM:

" besides 'stand his ground'?!!! He authorized the slaughter of millions using all kinds of propaganda. He'll say anything to save face now! "

Our Nation wrote on Oct 2, 2007 3:35 PM:

" I don't believe in everything our current president has done but I do have respect for someone who is willing to stand their ground and maintain their beliefs against doubters. President George W. Bush hasn't changed his beliefs or his stance on any of this since it started unlike many of his contemporaries both democrat and republican. I believe that those that are willing to give up their freedom for safety deserve neither. I support completely and totally all who have given or will give their lives for this country. I don't understand someone who has lost a friend or family member and so want all the troops brought home. What was the point of them dying if we come home losers? That is part of what made Vietnam so bad. To those who believe that we have a controlled press: Have you ever read your history books? President Franklin Roosevelt stopped all press from printing anything bad about him, the troops, or the war during WWII. Only good and uplifting articles were allo

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