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PHOENIX — These Arizona Diamondbacks are no desert mirage, and the Chicago Cubs are one loss from another season of despair. | Photo gallery

Rookie Chris Young hit a three-run homer and Stephen Drew tripled in two more in an 8-4 victory Thursday night that put the Diamondbacks ahead 2-0 in the best-of-five NL division series.

Unless they turn it around at Wrigley Field, the Cubs will make it 99 years and counting without a World Series title. The Billy Goat Curse would still reign.

The frustration is showing, too. After giving up the go-ahead homer to Young in the second inning, Chicago starter Ted Lilly spun around, wound up with his pitching arm and slammed his mitt to the ground.

“I’ve never seen a pitcher throw the glove like that on the mound,’’ Cubs manager Lou Piniella said with a bemused smile. “He threw a high fastball and the kid put a good swing on it.’’

Lilly, though, was not amused.

“It was clear that I was upset,’’ he said. “This was a big game.’’

Three years removed from a 111-loss season, the young Diamondbacks are one victory from the NL championship series. They can complete a sweep Saturday in Chicago, where Arizona will send Livan Hernandez to the mound against Rich Hill.

Bob Melvin, Arizona’s low-key manager, is the maestro of this team’s unlikely climb to contention.

“It was rewarding to get here,’’ he said. “Now that we’re here and now that we’ve got a couple under our belt, our expectations keep rising, and that’s the way it’s been all year.’’

Eric Byrnes had an RBI triple for the Diamondbacks, the first team since the 1906 White Sox to have a league’s best record and worst batting average.

They won yet again with timely hitting, solid starting pitching, sound defense and a strong bullpen.

“Everything is going our way right now and hopefully we’ll keep it that way,’’ Drew said. “We had clutch hitting and then clutch defense.’’

As for Piniella, his best-laid plans might be for naught.

The Cubs’ manager pulled ace Carlos Zambrano after only six innings and 85 pitches with the score 1-all in the opener Wednesday because he was planning to pitch him on short rest Sunday in Game 4. Now, there might not even be a Game 4.

Doug Davis gave up a two-run homer to Geovany Soto in the second, then settled in for three scoreless innings. The Arizona left-hander, acquired in the trade that sent Johnny Estrada to Milwaukee last offseason, allowed four runs and six hits in 5 2/3 innings overall. He struck out eight and walked four.

Davis also had an RBI on a safety squeeze. He left to a standing ovation, at least from the Diamondbacks’ portion of a crowd that included a large share of Chicago fans.

“I had a decent curveball,’’ Davis said. “I threw it early for strikes. Around the fourth or fifth inning, I was able to expand it and get swings.’’

However, reliever Juan Cruz promptly gave up a two-run double to pinch-hitter Daryle Ward, with both runs charged to Davis. That was the only mistake the Arizona relievers made. Tony Pena, Brandon Lyon and Jose Valverde each threw a scoreless inning to close it out.

Valverde had to pitch around an error by second baseman Augie Ojeda that left two runners on base. But the right-hander struck out Derrek Lee and Aramis Ramirez to end it, two of Chicago’s 23 strikeouts in the first two games.

“They’re an aggressive swinging team,’’ Davis said, “and they swung at a lot of pitches that would have been balls.’’

The Cubs’ top four batters were 4-for-19 with seven strikeouts. In the two nights combined, the first four batters are 5-for-35 with 13 strikeouts.

“I think they have a very good scouting report,’’ Alfonso Soriano said, “and they know how to pitch.’’

Lilly lasted just 3 1/3 innings, allowing six runs and seven hits.

There were more Cubs fans on hand for this one than Arizona’s 3-1 victory Wednesday night, and they were roaring early when Chicago took the lead on Soto’s two-run homer in the second.

It didn’t last long. With runners at second and third and two outs, Lilly had a 1-2 count on Young, but ran it to 3-2. Then the Arizona rookie hit a 421-foot shot into the left-field seats and the Diamondbacks led 3-2.

“You feel like you’re floating on air when you’re running around the bases,’’ Young said. “There’s no feeling like it.’’

Lilly fired his glove to the ground as the ball sailed over the wall, and the Cubs trailed the rest of the way.

Drew, who had another outstanding defensive night at shortstop, followed with a broken-bat infield single. Byrnes missed a homer by about a foot, hitting one off the top of the left-field wall for a triple that brought Drew home, and it was 4-2.

Drew added a two-run triple in the fourth after Ojeda reached on a bunt, though it appeared he ran out of the baseline. Piniella complained, but not with much enthusiasm.

The Diamondbacks added two more in the fifth off rookie Kevin Hart. Mark Reynolds and Justin Upton walked, then Ojeda had an RBI single, to the chants of “Aug-ie, Aug-ie’’ from the crowd.

Four of six Diamondbacks who walked came around to score.

“That’s the type of team we need to be,’’ Melvin said. “We need to be able to grind guys.’’

Notes:@ Cubs RHP Kerry Wood, who made a comeback this year from a career-threatening shoulder injury, pitched two scoreless inning and became the 20th player in franchise history to appear in three postseasons — 1998, 2003 and 2007. ... With scattered showers in the area, the roof at Chase Field was closed. ... The crowd of 48,575 was not a sellout.

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Arizona Diamondbacks' Chris Young, right, is greeted at home plate by teammates Chris Snyder, left, and Justin Upton after Young's 3-run home run against the Chicago Cubs in the second inning in Game 2 of a National League Division Series playoff baseball game, Thursday, Oct. 4, 2007, at Chase Field in Phoenix. (AP Photo/Ross D. Franklin)
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Stinko wrote on Oct 19, 2007 9:14 AM:

" I once heard that cub fans are 90% scar tissue. "

Tom Joad wrote on Oct 19, 2007 9:13 AM:

" Like they always say " Wait til next year." "

Lou wrote on Oct 19, 2007 9:01 AM:

" In the words of Arnold, "I'LL BE BAAACK" "

Pinella wrote on Oct 19, 2007 8:03 AM:

" I remember a hint given by Pinella that he would not be returning unless the Cubs won it all. Curiously, I havent heard anything more on that or an affirmation that he will be back. "

RE Old Tymer wrote on Oct 19, 2007 7:49 AM:

" Could not have stated it better myself. Good to see people calling out a sham of a franchise and a sham of a fan base. My recent experiences in Wrigley have been the same and thankfull it is contained exclusively in that one ball park. "

Thank you wrote on Oct 19, 2007 7:44 AM:

" to Borat...err.... I mean Vladimir for helping to keep the post alive and kicking...unlike the cubs season. "

Vladimir wrote on Oct 18, 2007 4:07 PM:

" I post 1 more time in attempt to move this story back into 6th place on the "most commented" section. "

Old Tymer wrote on Oct 18, 2007 1:38 PM:

" People are still commenting on this wow! I will give it to Cubs fans for being loyal, but any game I go to at Wrigley, I see more drunk, boisterous, yuppies than any other of the 10 ballparks I have been too - including Busch. There are classless baseball fans everywhere, but Cubs fans are probably the worst. You really do have nothing to brag about and should keep you mouth shut. The Cubs' franchise really is a joke, I don't care if they have won a few years here and there, in the overall scheme of things, they are the biggest losers in the history of sports. "

Look at the positive wrote on Oct 18, 2007 12:53 PM:

" At least Carlos Zambrano will be well rested next spring after he was pulled curiously early from game 1. Is he still prepping for his game 4 start? "

Free Agents wrote on Oct 18, 2007 12:51 PM:

" I understand the great Razor Shines is now available. His bat currently has more life than any that played three post season games in a cub's uniform. Ironically, he may be able to last more than 3 1/3 innings and unlike Ted Lilly may actually be able to manage to keep his glove on his hand! "

Thanks wrote on Oct 18, 2007 12:49 PM:

" To Vladimir for having less common sense than the people back in his homeland. Looks like we got the bottom of the gene pool yet again. "

Notes wrote on Oct 18, 2007 12:48 PM:

" I see where Kerry Wood earned the distinction of being the 20th player in franchise history to appear in three separate post seasons. I started to wonder how many cubbies could claim to have been a member of a post season team and never make it to the world series? "

Better wrote on Oct 18, 2007 12:45 PM:

" This entertaining comment thread is much better than the story of the lady who was killed by her own two pit bulls. Interesting reading though watching those who want to staunchly defend these worthless and totally needless dogs in the face of the fact they turned on potentially the only person who truly loved them. I heard a saying once....keep thinning the herd! "

Vladimir wrote on Oct 18, 2007 10:53 AM:

" Quite ironic there Stinko. The mere fact that you posted in to question why this story remained in the "most commented" section only helped to keep it here. I am glad my comrades have more commen sense than this back in my homeland. "

Classless Cub Fans wrote on Oct 18, 2007 9:58 AM:

" I have taken the time to re-read all of the posts attached to this article and it seems to me the classless comments are coming from the sore loser cubbie fans. Ouch, losing does hurt! "

Luvable Losers! wrote on Oct 18, 2007 9:55 AM:

" But losers...nonetheless! "

Still here? wrote on Oct 18, 2007 9:47 AM:

" I think this story is still here because unlike their rivals in town and southbound on I-55, the cubbies did not take care of their post season business. I am not a fan of any of the big three teams from around here so I can atleast say, without being a homer, the last time either the cards or the sox made the post season, they took care of business and won it all. The cubs, well, were the cubs. "

Over paid wrote on Oct 18, 2007 7:16 AM:

" The Cubs are the perfect example of losers...not loveable losers, but just plain old losers. There is no way it is in the interest of the ownership to have a world series team and success. They are making piles of money selling drunken fools on the curses and "wait til next year" crowd. Every business has a marketing plan and the Cubs plan is perpetual losing. A post season trip every once in a while helps with selling merchandise - which they know Cub fans will burn after the loss and therefore need again when they decide to try and win again. "

Stinko wrote on Oct 17, 2007 7:19 AM:

" why is this still here? "

Harry Carey wrote on Oct 15, 2007 8:06 AM:

" To quote the late and disgusting Harry Carey "CUBS LOSE...CUBS LOSE!!!!!!" "

GO CUBS GO... wrote on Oct 9, 2007 3:45 PM:

" Go back home. Maybe they should be called the Chicago Choke Artists. "

The Latest Joker wrote on Oct 8, 2007 9:47 PM:

" The latest joke is that the Cubs are for sale and a group from the Philipines are interested in buying them. They will be called the Manila Folders! "

Ankiel Rocks wrote on Oct 8, 2007 8:14 AM:

" Hey Sox 05, you are a perfect example of why they call it the windy city! Your post should have started out "To WORLD CHAMPION Cardinal Fans" we don't give up our title for a couple more weeks. Not sure you noticed but the Cardinals did win 78 games this year.....6 more than the Sox. As far as sterioids go.. two words for you. "SAMMY" and "SOSA" "

Ha wrote on Oct 7, 2007 10:59 AM:

" Wow those 3 extra games in October were REALLY fun to watch!! "

S0x 05 wrote on Oct 6, 2007 1:01 PM:

" To the Cardinal Fans. Completely Useless By September. It figures st louis fans would quote something that does not apply. It is October now and it looks like those useless northsiders have played three more games than you did. oh just looked at your record. The useless northsiders played quite a few more games than you did. Maybe St Louis should be Wrigley south? You will win next year provided there isnt any steriod inquiries about the Cardinals. The AL Central is going to will it all anyway. "

Sox fan in Houston wrote on Oct 6, 2007 12:56 PM:

" I hate to admit it, but I am actully rooting for the Cubs. I know I will hear it, not a loyal Sox fan. But I just love Razzing the Astro fans more than I hate to see the Cubs win. "

Cubs fan wrote on Oct 6, 2007 8:33 AM:

" I read we once had a good team in Chicago. I found this in my Bible- Old Testament. "

Most commented stories wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:00 PM:

" thats because cards fans have nothing better to do but show how low class they are "

to:re Ankiel wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:33 PM:

" keep drinking the kool aid. "

once again wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:25 PM:

" cubs fans really dont care about how many rings you have or how many times you have made it to the playoffs we simply do not care.its all about loyalty and you can tell most cardinal fans are band wagon fans..wonder how many of you will out to wallyworld and buy another clubs hat or shirt so you can look cool? or should i say like an idiot...most im sure..s/farmers and cards fans what a bunch!! "

Cardinals4ever wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:54 PM:

" The thing is, the cubs did choke. Not only were they expected to win, all of you cubs fans are the ones who have talked them up so much. If you guys would stop being so arrogant, then maybe it wouldn't seem like them choking. The cardinals however didn't spend $200 and some million dollars trying to bring another world series title back to st. louis. I guess you guys better stop $400-500 million next year. What was your guys' record last year when we won the world series? Oh yeah 30 games under, good stuff. "

To All Arrogant Cardinal Fans . . . wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:38 PM:

" Your IQ test results came back. I am sorry to say all of you were graded at a 1. However, you are only 69 points away from being smarter than a houseplant. Study hard, study smart! "

Cubs fan wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:29 PM:

" No one remembers, but we actually had a good team once, I think. "

Sweet wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:22 PM:

" This is the best time of year because it means Baseball is almost OVER. It IS the great American past-time. It only serves to pass the time between Basketball and football. "

re Ankiel wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:15 PM:

" There's no way Ankiel's taking HGH or steroids or anything ... he's not very big. "

to GM Story wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:14 PM:

" Why should Cardinals fans comment on losing Jocketty when the article is about the Cubs ... who are going to be swept by the Dbacks!! CUBS...Completely Useless By (the end of) September. "

Isn't it funny? wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:13 PM:

" To see all of the Cubs fans being so arrogant about the Cards sitting at home watching the playoffs. Cubs must have short memories, because they have been doing that for the better part of 100 years, watching as a World Champion is crowned. I've never heard a bunch of people be so arrogant for being terrible in my life! Congrats, you've made the playoffs... too bad for you that you'll be sitting right with the Cards fans by Sunday. Of course, without a World Series title since 1908. "

wow wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:51 PM:

" cardinal fans have really out done themselves what class you all have..hey cub fans check out the cards story and read all the posts. it really cracked me up. you can really tell how much they love thier team. it might take you all of about 30 sec. to read the single post on there but its worth it. i think they are still looking for someone to pat them on the back. what a joke they are.. "

to cardinal fans wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:35 PM:

" once again your showing how classless the card fans really are. you seem to think you know everything. i get it now it must be judy posting all of this crap. she thought she new everything too.that or its the classless s/farmers "

re:Cards Fans to Sour Grapes wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:28 PM:

" wow so you are sick of optimism and die hard dedicated fans who will stick with their team no matter what? Maybe you should quit sports for a while. You seem to take yourself and sports too seriously. "

To GM Story wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:25 PM:

" It's not worth mentioning because it's a part of the business side of baseball. People change jobs and big wigs move on. Maybe we didn't mention it because we're not worried about it. Did you ever think of that? These arguments that Cub fans come up with are getting more and more humorous, yet desperate at the same time. Face it, reality is the Cubs consistantly choke in the post season and the Cardinals have enough World Series rings to let the whining cubbies borrow a few. By the way, a cub is a baby bear. That doesn't mean the fans have to be babies too. "

Me to Choke Cubs Choke wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:21 PM:

" Please explain to me how the Cubs are choking. The had the worst record of all the NL playoff teams and they are playing the team with the best record in the NL. To me, that sounds like the Diamondbacks should beat the Cubs. You are probably just a bitter Cardinals or Sox fan. "

J1111 wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:21 PM:

" To TO: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that the Cubs DID WIN the NL division. Isn't that really what this article entails and what these postings are about??? And no it was not luck, it's called skill. If the Cards are supposedly so "good" why didn't they spread some "luck" and win the division...oh yea because they did COLLAPSE, just like you said. You are a moron. "

Fun Fact.... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:16 PM:

" There are only around 55,000 people alive in the US currently who were actually alive when the Cubs last won the World Series. These people are called, Centenarians as they have been alive for 100 years. As y ou can guess, this number gets smaller and smaller each year. There is another group called SuperCentenarians which have been around 110 years, but these are a much rare'er breed. "

To: GM story wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:14 PM:

" Well since the NL Central is the worst division in baseball that is quite an accomplishment. They can win the NL Central all the wish but they will never make it out out the NLDS. It is alway nice to make the playoffs when there are 5 other teams with better records than you, whatta say cubbie fans. Face it the only reason they made the playoffs is due to the fact they take the three division winners and the wild card. If they chose the four best teams, cubbies would be left out and well they should with their showing thus far. "

RE:To Cub Fan wrote on Oct 5, 2007 3:08 PM:

" The story said he stopped receiving SHIPMENTS of HGH. NOTHING said he stopped using it. He hasn't been tested. He could be getting it from another source. Once a user... "

GM story wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:59 PM:

" There isn't one comment on the story about the Cardinals' GM search. Guess that shows that the St. Louis fans in this area are more concerned about how the Cubs are doing than discussing the future of their team. Or perhaps, they just know that their team has little hope in the near future with a depleted farm system, very little pitching and an offense that consists of Pujols and a bunch of also-rans. It's a new era in the NL Central. The Cubs and Brewers will be battling it out for the title for years to come. Get used to it Cards fans. "

"Choke Cubs Choke" wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:47 PM:

" We're singing, "Choke Cubs Choke, Choke Cubs Choke.......Hey Chicago whaddya say, the Cubs are going to Choke today!!!!"" Or should I say Lose today! Well, Saturday but you know what I mean! :) "

Yeah.... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:46 PM:

" And the Cubs are known as one of the worst baseball teams in the world, 99 years and running. If this was an article about best cities, Chicago would win, but alas, its a baseball article. "

To: Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:46 PM:

" You cubs fans can beleive what ever you want. The scrubs may have been second in the league in team era but you also forget to state that the they gave up the forth most walks and that the team was was last in the league only had an era of 4.94. You can state stats all you want, the cubs can not win the big game, they have a lousy bull pen and starting pitching is mediocre at best not to mentioned a coach that is useless. The big Zero promised a Cy Young at the beginning of the season and he continues to shoot off his mouth, but he can not deliver. The cubs did not win the division it was just luck that they were on top when the other teams collapsed. Not to mention that they have losing records against all other divisons in the NL, SO I WOULD SAY THAT PLAYING OUTSIDE THE NL CENTRAL DOES NOT LOOK PROMISING FOR THE cubs. "

To Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:45 PM:

" What is your point in reminding us that St. Louis is in Missouri. DUH!!! Oh, I get it. Your trying to prove that you are as smart as a 5th grader. Great argument that makes a lot of sense! What's next? You're going to remind us that we are in the same time zone too. "

Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 2:18 PM:

" Somebody please remind the Cardinal fans that St. Louis is in the state of Missouri. If you want to get into arguments about cities, you're wasting your time. Chicago is known as one of the greatest cities in the world. St. Louis is well...St. Louis. I guess they got the arch though. "

Yeah.... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:54 PM:

" Becuase Chicago doesnt have any shootings or any crime. Haha, the biggest criminal in Chicago is a Chicago Cub, Soriano is robbing you guys blind!!! "

To Me to J1111 and the rest of the Scrubs fans. wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:43 PM:

" Didn't Chicago just have the one of the biggest mob court cases in history that also included the Chicago PD. Aren't there also quite a few officers in trouble for beating the crap out of people and little bar girls? And you think St. Louis is run by thugs. Atleast ours are not in Politics (Gov) or mascarading a police officers. Cub Fans face it. Jealousy is a sickness and you are going to look for any excuse to try and belittle the St. Louis Cardinals just because of your own lack of self esteem. But it's understandable. I would feel pretty pathetic too if my city blamed losing a game on one fan and talks trash to their opponets by bringing up the past. Then again, do the Cubs even have a past worth remembering? "

Yes, White Sox fans are here wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:27 PM:

" What's Sam Zell going to sell the Cubs for? Beer money? "

Ever notice.... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:22 PM:

" How the Cubs and a vacuum both do the same thing? "

Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:21 PM:

" The Cubs won the Central Division. They beat the Brewers and Cardinals when it mattered and that got them the division. There is no question about it being the worst division in baseball. However, do you know who was second in the majors in team ERA this year?...That's right, the Cubs. The consistency of the pitching got them into the playoffs. Ted Lilly had a bad game at the wrong time. One more question for you today, Which team ranked dead last in team hitting for the 2007 Major League Baseball season? Take your time. "

how many wrote on Oct 5, 2007 1:19 PM:

" Championships do the Cubs have? "

To Cub Fan wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:55 PM:

" Ankiel stopped taking HGH before or shortly after it became banned three years ago. Do you have anymore illegitimate arguments? I'l be scared because I'm hoping that the new GM invests into some pitchers. Carpenter will be okay as long as they don't rush him like Mulder. Mulder will be back, Looper and Wainwright will be worked on more to be consistent 15 game winners. Piniero will be signed to an extension. Still disappointed we got rid of Suppan. "

To I'd rather wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:50 PM:

" I'd rather cheer for my Cardinals who have problems just like everybody else than cheer for an organization that is so dependent upon next year, year after year x 100. Decisions that are made by everybody are the responsibilities or consequences they must endure afterwards. I mean, you should understand this right? You are a Cubs fan aren't you? Big waste of payroll on Prior, Wood, Soriano, Jones, Dusty Baker. I bet you the Cubs don't even make it to the playoffs again under Pinella just like what happened with Baker. "

Cards Fans to Sour Grapes wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:46 PM:

" I wouldn't say that we hate Cub Fans as most of my in-laws and a majority of my friends are Cub Fans. What I am sick and tired of is, "Wait until next year" or "We won the first game or first series of the season, we are going to win it ALL!" I just want them to win soon because I'm sick and tired of hearing about it. Some of the Cardinal fans that are posting on this comment need to show some class like what the Cardinal organization is. "

Me to J1111 wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:38 PM:

" St. Louis actually does have culture. It's all about gangs and shooting people up. It's the most dangerous city in America because it is run by thugs. Overall it is just an awful city. "

to: NASCARdinals Bill wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:29 PM:

" Classy? So DUIs are classy now? You really are a nascar and cardinal fan. "

To Silly Card Fan wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:05 PM:

" Just like you will never stop hearing about how Boston swept your hiney. Remember those days . . . haha! "

J1111 wrote on Oct 5, 2007 12:02 PM:

" Also, NASCAR, if the Cards are so "classy" explain to me why a defending World Series champion team is not in the playoffs. God, that is top-notch "class". I would be real interested to read your explanation..... "

To: Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:44 AM:

" Wow how insightful. You should really be an analyst with the Pantagraph, ESPN or networks. You forget that the cubs are outmatched and have no pitching consistancy and that their big name players do not perform well in the clutch. And yes the cubs did back into the playoffs. They did not win the NL Central it was who was going to lose the fewest games at the end of the season including the cubs, Brewers and Cards. They did not win the central in the same manner as the White Sox did in 2005. Face it the NL Central is weak in comparrison to the rest of the league. If you took the best four records in baseball into the playoffs the cubs would not have made the playoffs. I also do not care to mention the manager or coach of the cubs because he does not fit into either category as far as I am concerned. "

Were talking baseball here. wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:38 AM:

" Not culture. Cardinals > Cubs in baseball. 10 World series rings, most in the entire NL, 2nd most in the entire MLB. Enough said!!! "

Cub Fan wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:32 AM:

" I''m not sure if I'd be scared of the Cardinals for next year. Carpenter's arm will never be the same, who knows who's going to be managing the team, and Ankiel has cooled off, since he quit getting the injections for his pain. "

J1111 wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:31 AM:

" To NASCAR (hick) Just to let you know, Chicago is a city of culture. Wrigley field is a freakin landmark in that city. So yes, please, PLEASE send the Cubs back to home. Too bad we will not be watching a NL division game from St. Louis....because that city is not even comparable to Chicago. That city has absolutely no culture. I am pretty sure you need a definition of culture, because the Arch and ghetto East St. Louis is definitely not what I call "culture". "

NASCARdinals Bill wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:12 AM:

" By the way Scrub fans, you better hope your boy Ron Santo knows the heimlich maneuver. I will give you one guess why! Cards are gonna get back on track and make the NL central classy again. Carp's comin' back and a full year of Ankiel. Are ya scared yet Scrubs?!? "

Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:05 AM:

" Do the White Sox still have fans? "

Baseball Guy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:04 AM:

" I don't know who that imposter was, but he was so nervous he mispelled my last name. Anyway, with the Cubs, I think Coach Pinella did not get his team ready. I think they underestimated the D-Backs, and they better take a different approach, or it will be sweep time. "

White Sox owner wrote on Oct 5, 2007 11:01 AM:

" There's nothing keeping the Cubs in town after Sam Zell (White Sox owner by the way) sells them. "

To DMAN: wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:51 AM:

" When did I ever say that I'm a cardinal fan? I'm a white sox fan, you know, the only true baseball team in chicago that doesn't have to use a curse for the reason on why they are terrible every year. Get ready to start the "wait until next year" garbage saying. What a joke of a team. I say they get moved. "

Fredbird wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:47 AM:

" Just think if the Cubs do win the World Series both the Cubs and the Cards will have something in common. They both will have won a World Series in their NEW BALLPARK. from a diehard CARD FAN "

Sour Grapes wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:42 AM:

" Cardinals fans hate Cubs fans because they are the team nationally that people love. People outside of the Midwest could give a rats behind about the Deadbirds. I'm really looking forward to the 2008 Cardinals season to see who, besides Pujols, is on the team! So Taguchi fever....."Catch It!" "

Public Announcer wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:42 AM:

" Would the woman who left her nine children on the field (that's Wrigley for you dense Scrubs) come pick them up, the Diamond backs are beating them mercilessly. Go Backs Go! Sweeeeeeeep! "

Downright "offensive!" wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:38 AM:

" Where have the bats gone? If I were a Dbacks pitcher, I'd NEVER throw Soriano, Lee or A-Ram a strike until they prove that they can lay off the 55 footer low and away......and I'm a Cubs fans saying this! We need to go with Pie (CF), Theriot (SS), Ward (1B), Soto (C), Murton (LF), Jones (RF), Cedeno (3B), Fontenot (2B) and Rich Hill for Game Three! "

Alphonse wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:37 AM:

" Yikes. It'll be good to get home. But hey, this is the team with the best record in the NL we're talking about here. I sure hope we don't get swept, and I'd love it if we came all the way back, but I'm not gonna be stunned and devastated if this doesn't work out. I'm hoping the season will continue, but no matter what, it has been a fun and rewarding one so far. "

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHHAH!!!!!!! wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:32 AM:

" Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. Not gonna happen. See you all on the 'outside' come Sat. night. "

NASCARdinals Bill wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:27 AM:

" Dude you can question my loyalty all you want but a bunch of my boys think the same way and they are die-hards just like me. Ain't nothing better then sending them back home to their fancy city with all its "culture" Give me a break! "

Funny wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:21 AM:

" I chuckle everytime I read these posts. 1/2 of them are ridiculous (Cubs backed in to the playoffs), and the other 1/2 are nonsense (Cubs choked). Can someone please tell me when the Cardinals play again? I can't seem to find it in my TV Guide. Certainly the defending World Series champions won the 'weakest' division in MLB this year. They did return the nucleus of the team, and even had a pitcher-turned-outfielder come up and set the league on fire for two weeks. "

Things wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:18 AM:

" that have happened since the Scubbies have won a world series: Alaska, Arizona, Hawaii, Oklahoma and New Mexico were admitted to the Union Both radio and TV were invented Fourteen teams were added to Major League Baseball Haley’s comet passed Earth,….twice The NBA, NHL and NFL were formed, and Chicago teams won championships in each league Choke on it Scrubbies - 100 years! "

As you are used to saying wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:14 AM:

" Wait till next year.... GO SOX! "

Just Me wrote on Oct 5, 2007 10:02 AM:

" I would love to see some of the people that post here play professional baseball. Sounds as though there are many people that post here who are very capable of doing better than the ones on the Cubs team. Why aren't you out there? Yes, I'm a Cubs fan...always have been, always will be. Yes, it's aggravating at times. But, it's also a GAME...which means there will always be a winning team and always be a losing team. It's ridiculous comments like those made here that keep the infamous Cubs rivalry alive. "

dman wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:53 AM:

" "to Candy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:19 AM: " GO CUBS GO....HOME for another complete disaster of a team. How can anyone root for these losers. " umm, because they are REAL fans, who root for their team through thick and thin? and not just when they win? you know, everything you , and other card fans aren't. "

RE:Ex ISU Baseball Alum wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:52 AM:

" You obviously know a ton about baseball if you can't even name the Cub's "Coach" "

To: Baseball Gut wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:44 AM:

" Sounds like this describes you better (GUT) than guy because you obviously are not one and have no knowledge of sports. Sure sounds like you have a lot to say about life genius take your trivial little comments along with your mini you and give the keboard a break!!! haha "

Sorry to tell you this... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:37 AM:

" The Nascardinal guy is an imposter, he is not really a Cardinal fan. We have known this for a long time. He is just trying to stereotype the Cardinal fans while acting like a Cards fan. "

die hard cards fan wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:26 AM:

" I think I speak for most cards fans when I say that anyone with Nascardinal in their posting name has no clue and does not represent the majority of cardinals fans. Its embarrassing. Give it up Nascardinal guy, you are the worst. "

to Candy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:19 AM:

" GO CUBS GO....HOME for another complete disaster of a team. How can anyone root for these losers. "

Baseball Gut wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:12 AM:

" You'd think a guy who played college baseball would know that you call them "Manager" and not "Coach. "

two words wrote on Oct 5, 2007 9:01 AM:

" GOAT CURSE "

to Candy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:59 AM:

" GO CUBS GO....HOME for another complete disaster of a team. How can anyone root for these losers. "

William C Nascar III wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:57 AM:

" You'll have to excuse my crazy cousin, he has nothing better to do. You see, he lives in a van down by the river. "

Ted wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:55 AM:

" This bites. If they get swept, which I don't think they will, I'm going to destroy my division champions t-shirt and just try to forget this season ever existed. "

I'd rather wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:55 AM:

" cheer for my Cubbies in the playouffs than to back a team of drunks like the Cardinals. I hear the latest line from Vegas is 2, that's the over/under on the number of times LaRussa will fall asleep at a stop light while drinking and driving. I'm going with the over. "

Ex ISU Baseball Alum wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:43 AM:

" Choke cubs Choke. They backed into the playoffs and only made it due to winning the hapless NL Central. It is time to put these clowns out of misery. The coach is horrible and when it somes time for the big plays there so called stars disapear. "

Steve Bartman wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:29 AM:

" I'll be at the Friendly Confines for the game on Saturday. Oh man, I hope this goes better than the last time in 2003. "

lalala wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:25 AM:

" here we are going again............ going down the only road we have ever known........ the cubbies are going home.......... "

NASCARdinals Billy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:22 AM:

" If there are three things us cardinal fans enjoy it is 1) pimping out our trailers 2) wrasslin 3) pretending rooting for a winning team somehow makes us more important than a normal guy sitting in his underwear watching TV. "

To Dman.... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:18 AM:

" What else happened in 2003?? DOH!!!!! "

cubs hater wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:16 AM:

" 2 down, 1 to go! Go 'Backs Go! "

Dman wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:04 AM:

" no one remembers, but we won 3 in a row in 2003. "

hey Nascar Bill past due wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:02 AM:

" what are you going to do for the next 48 hours? Pickup a book? Nope. You are the laughing stock of the posts...keep it up! "

NASCARdinals Bill wrote on Oct 5, 2007 8:01 AM:

" I luvs me some pro-wrasslin "

Hey wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:52 AM:

" Play that stupid song. Guess what, cubs are still no good. hahahaha "

NASCARdinals Bob wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:12 AM:

" Looks like them Scrubbies are gonna lose it in a sweep! What'll it be this year, we have the goat, black cat, and Bartman! Haha looks like poor execution from the chokers again. If you wanna win a Championship you have to win games, something the Cubs have not been accustomed to the past 100 years! Choke Cubs Coke! "

oh well wrote on Oct 5, 2007 7:00 AM:

" at least they got there "

NASCARdinals Bill wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:20 AM:

" If there are two things us Card fans love it is : 1.) enjoying the failure of others 2.) winning. Go Scrubs Go... out the door that is! "

BoinMo wrote on Oct 5, 2007 6:03 AM:

" Break out the brooms....looks like a Sweep. "

Silly cub fans..... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 5:11 AM:

" You really thought this was a World Series caliber team? You just better hope these girls dont get swept, or you will never hear the end of it. Your 136 million dollar man has looked great in the post season!!!! "

Candy wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:48 AM:

" GO CUBS GO, you ain't out of it yet. "

So sad... wrote on Oct 5, 2007 4:09 AM:

" Here we go again!!!!! Lee, Ramirez, Soriano all go in the tank. Figures, perhaps the biggest game of their lives, and they choke! This >crap< is really getting old!! "

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