Pantagraph.com | News | Cops: Man beaten, robbed near IWU library

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IWU Student wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:40 PM:

" It surprises me how safe people feel on our campus. I would not feel safe enough anywhere to walk by myself at 1am, but it's amazing how many males and females do this every night on campus. And on weekends, so many people do this while intoxicated or at even later times. IWU needs to stop making it seem like our campus is invincible so that we're not suddenly reminded of this fact when something like this happens. Also, a party at Shirk? What? "

To: Re: Aaron wrote on Oct 16, 2007 3:31 PM:

" I'm not Aaron, but I may have an answer. There are no "housing projects" in the area, but there are houses converted into apartments which some tenants are renting under section 8 subsidy. People in public housing, which is a little different than section 8, will live in "project"-type buildings. However, section 8 can be utilized anywhere a landlord is willing to accept it. Most are happy to, because they know they will be getting paid at least some rent owed every month. Most people on section 8 are NOT getting a "free ride", as rent is based on their income, and a percentage is figured to determine how much rent that person can afford to pay. Then section 8 pays the difference. Say you are a single mother, and your rent is $550, but you only make $8.00 an hour and have child care to pay so that you can go to work.(sometimes they consider childcare expenses when figuring out what you'll end up paying for rent out of pocket) In the end, this person may pay only $250 a month for rent, section 8 pays the difference to the landlord. "

re: Aaron wrote on Oct 16, 2007 2:32 PM:

" Where is there Section 8 housing next to Wesleyan? "

To: To Nightmare wrote on Oct 16, 2007 1:36 PM:

" Jennifer Lockmiller was an ISU student dating a Wesleyan student. "

Aaron wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:52 PM:

" Thank you section 8 housing! "

To: concealed & carry wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:32 PM:

" NUTCASE, NUTCASE, NUTCASE "

To Nightmare wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:22 PM:

" Student is right. You are not immune to crime on Wesleyan campus. I used to go there, and it may seem as if you're in a bubble (that's what your administration tells parents anyway), but E Empire, Walnut, McLean, Mulberry, and E Locust streets have some very delapitated housing with thugs to match. Wesleyan is in the midlle of a pretty dangerous neighborhood. I'm worried that your "it can't happen here" attitude may get you hurt. Also, Heather Lockmiller was murdered while she was a student at your school, but maybe current students don't know about crime that's happened that far in the past. "

early to bed wrote on Oct 16, 2007 12:11 PM:

" You know, young people, you're just ASKING FOR IT when you insist on being out so late, even on a weekend; especially alone, walking the streets. "

If he had mace... wrote on Oct 16, 2007 10:20 AM:

" When they were over him forcing him to empty his pockets, he could've pulled out some cash, held it up with one hand to get their attention, then use the other to spray those idiots in the face. Then the tables are turned. In the end, though, this man did the right thing - give the morons what they want and hope they leave you alone. No money/cell phone/wallet is worth your life. I recommend anyone in a similar situation to try not to escalate the situation by being a hero. If that's not your style, and you want to get some of your own justice, smack these guys around a bit for me. My friend got mugged at gunpoint at Locust and McLean a little while back...this junk needs to stop. "

Jimmy wrote on Oct 16, 2007 10:07 AM:

" It is legal in Illinois to carry an unloaded semi-automatic gun in a fanny pack with the clip in your pocket. The problem with this is it takes several seconds to access and load your weapon. If the people shot were punks as this I imagine the cops would ignore their assertion that the gun was already loaded. That is if they were around to tell their side of the story. Why not have concealed carry so idiots like this have something to worry about. In the meantime a gun in a fanny pack is the 2nd best solution. "

Packing wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:32 AM:

" Don't bring a wrench/pipe to a gun fight. I would have cleaned their heads out like a couple of canoes! "

To: You know what? wrote on Oct 16, 2007 9:27 AM:

" Really? How about the corner of Market and Lee streets? I'll being seeing YOU later! hehehehhehee Seriously though, I was wondering how long it would take for someone to act all tough like someone getting beat up and robbed is nothing. I sure hope your statement made you feel all big and tough "

Student wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:41 AM:

" Unfortunately this has to happen in order for IWU to 'again look at our safety procedures'. The attitude that 'this doesn't happen here' is ridiculous. The security there is a joke, I have called the number and gotten voicemail. They are telling people to call security if they feel unsafe? CALL 911! WAKE UP! "

punks wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:39 AM:

" hey: only a coulple of boy's would walk up behind a person and attack them with a pipe. "

OMG wrote on Oct 16, 2007 8:01 AM:

" A fight at the Shirk Center???? What where the IWU kids slapping each other?? "

Hey wrote on Oct 16, 2007 7:58 AM:

" Why does it say, "Two teenage boys beat and robbed a 19 year old man?" Shouldn't it say, Two teens beat up another teen?" Why are the bad guys "teenagers" and the victim a "man" when he is a teenager himself? I'm just saying.... "

Make My Day! wrote on Oct 16, 2007 7:22 AM:

" If I ever fall victim to such an attack I hope it's in the confines of my own home- where I keep old Besty loaded and ready! "

You know what wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:57 AM:

" This town is a cupcake. There is not a street in this city that I would not walk down with a fist full of money at 1:00am. Some one gets beat up/mugged and people get bent out of shape! Apparently you have no idea how bad it can get. No city/town is without crime. There are 'bad' people every where. B/N's bad people have training wheels on....whimps. "

al wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:38 AM:

" could be the same two that robbed the kid in the hs parking lot. we will never know, never a description, which is encouraging to bad perps everywhere, commit a crime and no one will be looking for you, though i suppose the rational is be on the lookout for all teenage boys... "

Cabrini Green wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:33 AM:

" Welcome to Bloomington!!!! I'm so glad the city council voted to sell our soul to the devil by accepting these thugs to Bloomington in exchange for state funds for the worthless Colluseum. If you look, you will see a huge increse in crime since this housing project was moved here. "

nothing new wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:28 AM:

" No one should be surprised by this. It happens alot more than one would think. Intresting though, with the buget cuts it looks like there will not be any more police officers hired next year? "

why are there no descriptions of the perps? wrote on Oct 16, 2007 6:13 AM:

" Once again the Pantagraph is ignoring the publics demand for details in crimes. I doubt if this post gets passed the censors because the Pantagraph constantly refuses to give descriptions of criminals. What is the paper afraid of by not giving the reader the full story? Even in crimestoppers reviews if there is not a photo available a physcal description is not given by the newspaper. Forget about political correctness for once people and give the citizens and subscribers something to work with to either bring a witness to light or to just give a little heads up to the next potential victim. I challange you to print this for all to see and comment on. "

Um, it wrote on Oct 16, 2007 5:46 AM:

" doesn't sound like the victim had time to blink before he was attacked, let alone pull out a gun or some mace. "

Krusty Krab wrote on Oct 16, 2007 2:36 AM:

" A party at the Shirk Center? Is Wesleyan THAT hard up for cash? I wonder who the party organizers were. "

OGS DUI's, Divorce, & Bankruptcy... wrote on Oct 16, 2007 2:35 AM:

" ...gets more press than violent crime in this town. Time for the Pantagraph to forget about what is politically correct and actually inform the people with the truth! Interesting how this paper was all about legislation for a smoking ban to "save" the people from the smoke that they could see and easily avoid, but for what danger lurks in the shadows of the night, they turn a blind eye. "

Todd the Bod wrote on Oct 15, 2007 10:09 PM:

" And once again... No description of the perps. Politically correctness wins out once again over the safety of the citizens. I love this country! "

Concealed carry wrote on Oct 15, 2007 9:36 PM:

" Every 19 year old should carry a concealed firearm - yeah that will solve the problems. "

OGS What Else Is New? wrote on Oct 15, 2007 9:00 PM:

" Is correct. I suggest that if the people of B/N wish to know what crime is actual taking place or what is really going on then purchase a scanner. The crime is often not put into the paper. I see it all the time. Of course, I do live on the west side. If it was not for the local police driving by I would not know what I would do. And yes, I do hear how hard those guys/gals work... "

carry concealed wrote on Oct 15, 2007 8:37 PM:

" concealed carry is allowed in several other states. It's time our state took a page from the book. If the criminals carry concealed to harm and commit crimes, than every other citizen should have the right to carry concealed to protect themsleves. "

kierstyn smith wrote on Oct 15, 2007 8:36 PM:

" this is scary and we need more camras around so fights dont accure this offten "

To:what was he doing wrote on Oct 15, 2007 8:25 PM:

" A better question is what were the two high school punks doing out there at 2am. Oh wait, they were beating and robbing a guy. I guess since they had a reason to be there we should place blame on the victim. I mean if he hadn't been there this wouldn't have happened. I guess he got what he deserved with the broken bones and bruises for not having more money for them to take. "

To: ROFLMAO wrote on Oct 15, 2007 7:34 PM:

" Thanks for update on your travel plans. Let us know when you return to Downs. "

concealed & carry wrote on Oct 15, 2007 7:20 PM:

" IS NEEDED IN IN ILLINOIS!!!! "

What was he doing wrote on Oct 15, 2007 7:11 PM:

" walking down the street alone at 2 in the morning? "

concealed carry wrote on Oct 15, 2007 7:05 PM:

" may have helped in this case if someone thinks the person may be armed they may think twice "

Nightmare wrote on Oct 15, 2007 6:47 PM:

" IWU adiministrators are probably have a fit. This happening the weekend before homecoming. And as for this happening all the time, your wrong about one thing the Wesleyan bubble rarely gets punctured by the crime of the rest of Bloomington (unless you count underage drinking). "

to: it's time wrote on Oct 15, 2007 6:27 PM:

" ...for more than a spray. A couple of these thugs get shot and petty robbery won't be worth the effort anymore. "

to rolfmao wrote on Oct 15, 2007 6:21 PM:

" why don't you stay in one of those cities when you go to visit.oh I almost forgot the LOL "

OGS What Else Is New? wrote on Oct 15, 2007 6:00 PM:

" This kind of stuff happens in B-N all the time...yeah...frequently. However to keep a good image for the city, it is rarely reported. Maybe we should be made more aware of the dangers we face, if our local paper would be more informative of such issues. "

Jayu wrote on Oct 15, 2007 5:42 PM:

" Spike Lee should do a movie about the shoes getting stolen. "Do the Right Thing II: Urban Life at IWU." "

Sad wrote on Oct 15, 2007 5:38 PM:

" This town is going downhill fast. Move East my friends! "

to: it's time wrote on Oct 15, 2007 5:07 PM:

" While there's nothing wrong with carrying defensive sprays, I doubt that would have done any good in this case. "

ROFLMAO wrote on Oct 15, 2007 4:53 PM:

" Real nice "upscale "city" you have there LOL. Yes sir that cultural place is a magnet. I am going to see BB King in Peoria and a couple trips to Champaign and one to Chicago and Bloomington is closer than any of them. "

What happened~~ wrote on Oct 15, 2007 4:36 PM:

" to the young boy the other evening that somone robbed and took his wallet and TENNIS SHOES!!!! "

it's time~~ wrote on Oct 15, 2007 4:29 PM:

" To buy a nice big can of mace!!! "

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