Pantagraph.com Weather forecast, local radar and more
NewsMonday, November 26, 2007 3:37 PM CST
Illinois casinos may check everyone's IDs
Addiction prevention program could even card elderly
Advertisement

SPRINGFIELD -- Gamblers, no matter how old they are, may eventually have to show their driver’s licenses and have them scanned before entering Illinois casinos.

The Illinois Gaming Board is considering the card-everyone idea as a way to catch people who have voluntarily agreed to be arrested if they board one of the state’s riverboat casinos.

The board is looking for public input on the matter for a Dec. 3 meeting in Chicago, but the idea has been around since early last year, said gaming board spokesman Gene O’Shea.

Now, employees at the state’s nine boats are supposed to card everyone who appears to be under 30 years old as a way to prevent people under age 21 from gambling.

But many people on the state’s self-exclusion list might not get carded and would then be allowed to board.

Since 2002, people who believe they have compulsive gambling problems can voluntarily put themselves on an exclusion list, essentially agreeing to be arrested for trespassing if they falter and gamble anyway.

Many times, O’Shea said, the list’s members are caught at ATMs or trying to claim big jackpots when they have to identify themselves. Any money they win is confiscated and donated.

Once on the list, it’s difficult to get off. It takes an affidavit from a mental health professional that says you can gamble responsibly just to get started, and the appeal can only begin after being on the list for five years.

O’Shea said different technologies were considered to help keep self-excluded gamblers off the boats, but forcing everyone to show ID might be the best one.

“The cheapest thing is driver’s licenses,” he said. “Everyone’s got a driver’s license or state-issued ID.”

Slowing down entry process

But it’s not that simple, says Illinois Casino and Gaming Association Director Tom Swoik. Carding everyone from a college student celebrating a 21st birthday to the casino’s most elderly patrons could cause problems.

“This is going to slow down the entry process,” he said.

Swoik argued that trying to identify 5,200 people on the list among the 16 million Illinois admissions a year is inefficient, especially because many on the list may not go back.

His organization predicts the proposed policy could cost the boats an 8 percent drop in revenue.

O’Shea contends the long lines are a factor casinos can handle by simply having more employees scanning IDs.

But the competitive nature of riverboat gaming is a big worry, Swoik said, especially along the Iowa and Indiana borders, where there’s already a stiff competition for gamers. Lengthy lines or privacy concerns about ID scanning could push gamblers across the borders.

Despite the worries that gamblers will leave the state, they also apparently come in. Of the people on the self-exclusion list, about 240 are Iowa residents and about 70 are from Indiana.

There’s little to prevent someone on the Illinois list from gambling at an Iowa casino.

Gambling mega-company Harrah’s shares that information nationwide, so someone on the Illinois list can’t gamble at any of the industry giant’s facilities in the country.

Mo Hyder, general manager of the Isle of Capri Casino in Bettendorf, Iowa, says their company does the same thing with people on the Iowa list.

But because Isle of Capri doesn’t have a riverboat in Illinois, the company doesn’t use the state’s list at its casinos nationwide.

People wanting to weigh in on Illinois proposal must contact the Illinois Gaming Board. For more information, go to www.igb.state.il.us.

The Dec. 3 meeting is at 10:30 a.m. at 160 N. LaSalle St., Chicago.




Compulsive gamblers



About 5,200 people have voluntarily agreed to be arrested if they enter Illinois casinos, usually as a way to help kick a gambling habit. Statistics show more and more people have signed up for the program since it began in 2002.

2002: 277

2003: 882

2004: 879

2005: 1,012

2006: 1,208

2007: 1,039 to date

Take a look
The Illinois Gaming Board is trying to determine if all visitors to state riverboats should have to show identification. (AP File Photo/Seth Perlman)
Video
Most commented stories
Browse online archives
Recent issues:
Reader comments on this story - 19 total

Note: All views and opinions expressed in reader comments are solely those of the individual submitting the comment, and not those of the Pantagraph or its staff.

Keyser Soze wrote on Nov 28, 2007 12:01 PM:

" Thank god, I don't live near Illinois. If they pass this, I will NEVER set foot in an IL-Based casino. Have any of you thought about the IDENTITY THEFT risk? And that's just a "direct" risk. Now start thinking about where that "people who enter IL casinos" database might go... "

No Smoking wrote on Nov 26, 2007 3:50 PM:

" To "No Worry", I don't know where you get your facts, but it statistically shows in Colorado and other states that going "No Smoking" actually leads to more business. I'm more willing to go to an Illinois casino since there is no smoking. CANT WAIT TILL '08 "

IT's About time... wrote on Nov 26, 2007 1:38 PM:

" I'm tired of this age discrimination. Just because I'm under thirty I have to scan my ID, scan my face, and present my face for the cameras, but anyone older than dirt can just walk straight in, without being questioned? This is discrimination! "

the answer wrote on Nov 26, 2007 1:09 PM:

" If your a problem gambler the solution is that the state will take your winnings if your lucky enough to win. They don't return the money you lose, only take the money you win. How is that even legal. Sounds like theft too me. But then again so are taxes. "

What? wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:20 PM:

" No booster seats? Outrageous! Somebody call Ron Paul! "

Smoking out the worries! wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:06 PM:

" Horray to the Govenor for doing the one good thing during his administration and making the CASINO Boats smoke free. There is LEGISLATION that in 2008 no more smoking will be allowed on the boats!!! This ties into the factor that all of IL is going smoke free as well!!! All employees even on the boats deserve to work in toxic free enviroment. So puff puff away now in your public places cause soon it will be no more. "

How about wrote on Nov 26, 2007 10:39 AM:

" Scanning for those who get assistance from the government and shut them off if they're gambling with our tax money we give them to live on. "

Get ready to pay wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:53 AM:

" Taxes from smoking? Not gonna be there. Gambling's the new whipping boy. And the income that............... "

agree with orval wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:47 AM:

" Missouri does a good job of watching for this by using the card. I haven't played at one in a few years but do they still limit the amount you can gamble with in a given time? I play at Peoria and Iowa mainly-Iowa casino bigger and less smoke in air, maybe better circulation. I don't think scanning everyone is a good answer, just make for longer lines. "

Dave wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:15 AM:

" Missouri has a card system because by state law a gambler is limited to losing 500.00 in a gaming period which is 8 hours, I think. They keep tabs with your card which you have to use at any game you play. I really wouldn't be surprised if there aren't Mo. players who drive to Illinois casinos because they've lost all they can for one day in Missouri. "

to no worry wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:09 AM:

" you'll always be able to smoke on the boat, the laws exclude the boats in IL so they don't lose out...it will be one of the only places a smoker can go and get a drink at a bar "

Max wrote on Nov 26, 2007 6:58 AM:

" All you need is a thumb print scanner like they use at government locations, other locations where ID is needed, quick, clean, dependable. "

What? wrote on Nov 26, 2007 6:47 AM:

" So let me get this straight, someone has a nasty gambling problem and now the state should get involved and card everyone, and then the taxpayers pay for this service. That's bull; they should charge every gamer on the boat an extra fee to board, and that can pay for the service of carding everyone. Or, the sensible thing to do would be to stop the gambling totally. It has ruined many lives of those who are related to the addicted gambler. Also, do people really want their personal information to be gathered in yet another risky state venture whereby it can be bought and sold by anyone. Trust me they sell your information. Ask anyone who has a state professional license how much junk mail they get related to their profession that they didn't sign-up for; the state has been doing this for years. With identity theft on the rise, I think all selling of this information should be stopped. "

lol wrote on Nov 26, 2007 5:15 AM:

" I love the way some media sources leave peices of information out of their stories. The way it actually happens is this, someone on the "do not admit list" tries to enter the casino, the person at the front desk (usually a security guard) tells them they can't be admitted because, they voluntarily put themselves on the list, the employee then asks the patron to leave. The only way they will be arrested is if they refuse to leave. Source: I worked at a central Illinois casino for 5 years (1996-2001) as a security guard. "

whatever wrote on Nov 26, 2007 12:16 AM:

" so if there arrested for going into a casino, how much does the judge impose for a fine, your better off to put it in a machine, actually they want to scan your ID's to see if your wanted on any charges, makes good sense more revenue for the police depts. "

orval wrote on Nov 25, 2007 11:08 PM:

" a bad idea ,a better way would be like missouri were you have to use your players card before the machines will take any money. "

FYI wrote on Nov 25, 2007 10:41 PM:

" So does this list also require a driver's license, or can anyone put someone's name on the list by lieing? Seems unfair to take away someones' winnings, when they surely don't refund their loses. It would be far better to just close down those immoral, harmful places. "

No Worry...... wrote on Nov 25, 2007 10:34 PM:

" 90% of gamblers are smokers, so as of January 1, 2008, most gamblers will cross the state line to gamble where they can smoke. This will shorten your lines, Illinois casinos. Thanks again to Chicago ROD BLOWGO. If you think I'm full of hot air, just wait and see. The proof is in the pudding. But, for sure, the non smokers will be happy. They will be able to remove their gas masks lol. "

reader wrote on Nov 25, 2007 9:26 PM:

" Would illegals be arrested,or just U.S. citizens? "

Add your own comments

Please read the rules before posting comments.

You must be logged in to leave comments.
If you don't have a member ID, please register.

*Member ID:
*Password:
Remember login?
(requires cookies)
  Forgot Your Password?