Pantagraph.com | News | Woman awarded judgment in sex tape case

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country boy wrote on Nov 27, 2007 3:02 PM:

" if she had not won the judgement what would these posts have looked like? our courts system sucks, our judges suck, i told you so, etc, etc, etc... sure seems to be alot of people on here that THINK they know all about this case when I am willing to bet they have no idea! "

CC wrote on Nov 27, 2007 2:59 PM:

" All three of these individuals are guilty of stupidity. The woman for getting so drunk and allowing herself to be put in that situation in the first place. The two men for having sex with someone they are not married to! You reap what you sow in this world both good and bad. "

surprised wrote on Nov 27, 2007 2:51 PM:

" that a confidential agreement was made with the 3rd person... oh wait no I'm not surprised it was "confidential"becuase so is he,,, but I would be surprised if he had to pay at all..... "

listener wrote on Nov 27, 2007 2:48 PM:

" she was just as much of a part of the whole thing as they were ,drinking, smoking crack, they have done this before. she wants to play the poor victim , she was visiting him in jail, why you ask,, because I was there, and had to listen to the stories day in and day out, he got screwed by the multiple attorney's that just took his money, now he's been given an 28 year sentence, what a way to cover up the truth, basically they all knew what they were into, the court system turned their case into a farce and a profit, even His poor mom had to come up with 20 grand that the court system effectively squandered , dont make video's end.... "

LittleMac wrote on Nov 27, 2007 1:25 PM:

" I agree with many posters. Why should this young woman suffer because she chooses to go home with a convicted 'coke' salesman ( her boyfriend) who gets his grins assaulting and videotaping females and his buddy who sexually assaults minors. Evidently, they helped themselves to the only thing of value she had to offer. That just isn't fair. "

MJ wrote on Nov 27, 2007 12:46 PM:

" I was on the jury in a sexual assault case where the woman admitted to having had at least 15 beers that evening; there was a collective gasp from the jury when she said that. But that didn't excuse the man's behavior. There was plenty of stupidity to go around, but only one crime was committed. "

Look on IDOC's website wrote on Nov 27, 2007 11:03 AM:

" These men are scary looking.. and they have other crimes they have been involved in. Bout time they stopped protecting the criminals! "

Vile wrote on Nov 27, 2007 10:37 AM:

" Who cares if you think her judgment was poor? The law isn't supposed to only protect perfect people. If I walk down a seedy street and get mugged, yes you could say I made a mistake, but I would still be the victim of a crime. If you're heavily intoxicated, you cannot give consent. That's a tricky situation, because maybe the other two were drunk too, and didn't think she was objecting to them. That doesn't matter, that's all speculation that we don't know and CAN'T know anything about. There's not enough information to say for sure that she was raped. But it is pretty clear that these two men video taped her without her consent, and that's a crime. You all get so giddy in condeming this woman that you're ignoring the crime. Do you think you're too good to be victimized like she was? Do you think that you would never get too drunk to consent to sex acts? I don't care. This is still a crime even if you think you could have avoided it. "

WOO HOO wrote on Nov 27, 2007 10:36 AM:

" GOOD FOR YOU!! I AM SO PROUD OF YOU!! "

dwarf wrote on Nov 27, 2007 10:28 AM:

" Wow... I'm pretty disgusted by these comments. Guys are not freely licensed to have sex with every drunk woman in the world, simply because she's drunk. Rape is a crime. "

FYI wrote on Nov 27, 2007 9:33 AM:

" So why is it that men are supposed to be able to make judgement calls on who's too intoxicated to have sex with, when they are intoxicated as well? She did something stupid while drunk, but that doesn't make the men criminals; rather that she is just stupid for drinking too much. A friend of mine was charged with rape over a similar episode, but she did recant the next day...too bad for my buddy, as the retraction article was only 4 small lines compared to the 8 paragraph assasination written by the pantagraph. Maybe we'll get lucky and she won't reproduce. "

To: confused wrote on Nov 27, 2007 8:20 AM:

" She suffered extreme anguish, embarrassment and menal anguish because the attackers videotaped the assault. That is how they know what happened to her. "

To: Confused wrote on Nov 27, 2007 5:01 AM:

" Just because her name was not released does not mean that she didn't suffer from extreme anguish & embarassment. Odds are the judge had to view part of the tape in order to prove the tape was real. She claims to be highly intoxicated but that doesn't mean there wasn't a date rape or some other drug put in her drink. She found out about the tapes at a later date, so again, odds are that if there was she would no longer have had traces in her system when she found out what happened & reported it. I'm not saying there were drugs in her drink, just that there may have been. "

otis wrote on Nov 26, 2007 11:59 PM:

" the bible tell us over and over that he whos without sin should forgeve least he be judge alpa omeg amen "

This woman~~ wrote on Nov 26, 2007 11:24 PM:

" is a victim of a crime, BUT, she is clearly responsible for her own behavior. Getting blasted is irresponsible! Being an adult is having a couple of drinks but being irresponsible is getting totally blown away and not knowing what you do. If your not drunk and keep your knees together and both feet on the floor you can't get into trouble. People today put to much emphasis on sex. Why can't you date, have fun, do things together and go places and leave sex on the back burner. If things work out for you then consider it but way on down the line not the 1st or 2nd, 3rd date! If I guy has enough respect for YOU he'll wait, if not, he isn't worth your time and he wasn't thinking with the right head and neither were you. "

hypocrites wrote on Nov 26, 2007 8:50 PM:

" I'm sure all you who disparage the victim have never been intoxicated before. Or may you are all grossly overweight slobs who can absorb lots of alcohol and therefore never get that intoxicated. what happened to the victim was stupid but how was she to know that her boyfriend would do something so vile? "

Bubba wrote on Nov 26, 2007 8:11 PM:

" How intoxicated could a woman be if she's alert enough to fellat multiple men? "

Brother Bob wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:33 PM:

" All those involved are guilty in the eyes of God. She doen't deserve to be thought of as a victim. "

publicity needed wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:33 PM:

" we need to know about these cases and it's a real public service of The Pantagraph to cover them. It doesn't really matter why she can't recall-Young is a pervert who belongs behind bars. Let's hope she gets his money and he stays away from women! "

to most of you make me sick wrote on Nov 26, 2007 7:19 PM:

" I DO know how women in this world function and it is NOT by being so drunk that you can't remember who you had sex with! You are right about one thing though, I do think very little of people like this!! "

Confused wrote on Nov 26, 2007 6:45 PM:

" If the "victim" has no memory of the events that occured, how did she then suffer extreme anguish, embarassment, and mental anguish? Especially when her identity has never been released to the public? And how does she expect to collect this judgement? I would imagine by seizing any assets that these men still hold in the real world, thereby punishing their families for the defendants actions. Sounds like a classy group all the way around to me. "

Country Girl wrote on Nov 26, 2007 4:31 PM:

" It would seem that this Young has a habit of video taping his sexual exploits. Probably just not enough evidence in her case but at least he was convicted in another. "

(most of) you people make me sick wrote on Nov 26, 2007 3:36 PM:

" I read 5 comments so far. 3 disparage the victim, claiming she's irresponsible and blaming her for being the victim of a sex crime. 1 doesn't really say anything, and 1 person thankfully has a clue. What does it say that the first thing you commenters do is blame and insult the victim instead of passing a word of judgment about the rapists or the crime? I don't know how women function in this world when there are so many people like you who think so little of them. "

To: Get the facts straight wrote on Nov 26, 2007 3:30 PM:

" Lets see, I can belief the reporting of the Pantagraph or the second hand information from you. I choose, *gasp*, to believe the credible reporter who has some professional integrity and an obligation to accurately report the facts. If I were too drunk to remember who I had sex with, I probably would not admit it to my "friends." Although I admire her for admitting to the judge, which is probably where the reporter gained the information reporterd as "The woman contends she was heavily intoxicated and has no memory of the events that occurred at Young’s home. She admitted that she and Young had consensual sex earlier in the evening but she was unaware that Hawkins switched places with Young at some point." "

To: muttonhead31 wrote on Nov 26, 2007 3:24 PM:

" Ditto. "

Get the facts straight... wrote on Nov 26, 2007 2:51 PM:

" This victim never claimed to be "heavily intoxicated". The fact of the matter is this victim was more than likely drugged as she probably had been on several occasions. Please, if you're going to continue to report this story, have your facts straight before printing. What you've printed here has only allowed for people to make disparaging remarks (as already shown in the couple of comments that have been made) about the situation and thus leading to the persecution of the victim of this horrible crime. It's nice of you not to print her name, but continuing to print stories about her case, specifically stories that don't tell the entire truth, is just as victimizing as using her name because SHE knows who she is and unfortunately people on these blogs tend to speak at great lengths and usually in a negative manner about things they know NOTHING of. "

ugggghhhhhhh wrote on Nov 26, 2007 2:51 PM:

" how in the world does this happen? "

yo wrote on Nov 26, 2007 2:20 PM:

" Sometimes, all the time drinking is just not smart if you must get that drunk that you can not remember having sex. "

Wow! wrote on Nov 26, 2007 1:37 PM:

" That's a lot of alcohol to not realize someone switched places with you during consenual sex! "

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