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" To Cynic: First you have no idea about my political affiliation. You have problesm making assumptions that tend to be about 99% wrong. As for low interest loans and giving away millions of dollars for nothing well that is easy to defend. If you can not campare a loan that will be paid back to giving away $20+ miilion dollars for a building that is not warranted and not needed then you need to take a close look at you reasoning abilities. Cynic you have continously make pokes politically at my commetns while I have made one on another post, which I may say was correct. You on the other hand do not live or work in Livingston county but seem to want to medle in our business because you are all knowing and can straighen out any situation with your thesaurus and your self gatifying wit that no one else cares for. "

" To Modulation. Low interest loan?!? Isn't that still lib'rul socialism to you? COME ON! Let them fight and claw their way up just like everyone else has to! The poor don't deserve a single cent of your tax money, do they? Can't you see the inconsistency between your two positions? By the way, I'll have to get back to you on the other conversation this evening. Work requires my full attention at the moment. "

" To Cynic: While I was not affected by the floor I know many good people that were affected and did have flood insurance. But surprise the flood insurance pays very little. There are people that do not have flood insurance and could use the help, but this is not in the form of handouts but rather low interest loans that they would need to pay back. See there is a difference between support and help. I belive in self responsibility and self help, I do not believe in handouts and frrebies for those that chose their own path. If you do not work, do not save, or do not buy insurance then you have set your own future. I on the other hand have saved, have insurance and have planned for my future as well as my childrens. "

" To Modulation. I'm equally surprised. Considering the overt belief in social Darwinism you exhibit on the Livingston Manor issue, I would have thought you would believe that taxpayers shouldn't be burdened with financially helping those who failed to foresee the consequences of living in an area that has flooded before. In other words, everyone should be a Horatio Algier character. I'm pleasantly surprised and glad to be wrong. By the way, feel free to use my old moniker if you want. I don't mind and will respond. I'm still happy and still cynical However, others trying to follow our debate may find it difficult. "

" I applaud Mr. McCoy's efforts, and I wish him the best of luck to him, and all citizens of Pontiac. What a shame that he has to go to such measures, I hope there is relief ahead. "

" Wow cynic we agree on one thing atleast. McCoy deserves the credit he is due on this. He has been out front and working for the people affected regardless of his critics. "

" I wish you the best of luck, Mr. McCoy, and I want you to know that I am proud that you are standing up for, and fighting for the people of your city. You and your efforts are what this country use to be and we need to get more people like you onboard again. I will be praying that you get some positive results and no matter what the outcome is, the people of Pontiac should be very proud to have a person like yourself as their Mayor. You're a good man. "

" Give the man credit, he is trying to help the people of pontiac. "

" Mr. McCoy was always an industrious one. Whatever criticisms Pontiac residents have of him, claiming he didn't try to advocate their interest in this situation shouldn't be one of them. "