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NORMAL -- Police are looking for two teenage boys who hit an unsuspecting woman in the face with a pie when she opened her front door.

The woman told police she answered her door about 4:45 p.m. Monday in the 2800 block of Greyhawk Drive, a Normal police report said.

A boy asked her if she was familiar with the mathematical term “pi,” and then hit her in the face with a pie, police said. The other boy used a video camera to record the assault, police said.

Police believe the victim, who did not know the pair, was selected at random.

Greyhawk Drive is in Eagles Landing subdivision in northeast Normal.

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landlord wrote on Mar 26, 2008 11:38 AM:

" better then a fist "

Gov't oppressed Mule wrote on Mar 25, 2008 1:44 PM:

" I can't believe people are still commenting on this. IT WAS A PIE PEOPLE, MOVE ON! "

leslierocks wrote on Mar 24, 2008 4:23 PM:

" First of all This is a truly funny story. Not many teenagers are creative enough to think of this kind of prank. And chances are, the teenagers didn't even know the woman they did this to, so it's not like they did it to hurt her feelings or hurt her. No one was hurt, and while looking for who did this might set an example, nothing really is accomplished. The B-N police deparment is wasting their money on this one. Second, people leaving comments on here seem to care more about making personal jabs at each other's comments than the actual story. Who has time for that? I know i don't, I'm too busy eating pie. "

Houser wrote on Mar 20, 2008 9:46 AM:

" I'm guessing it wasn't a coincidence that it was a woman they "pied". A lot of men would have chased them down. Which means they were just picking on someone smaller than them because they think it's funny. "

whatevercple wrote on Mar 18, 2008 11:15 PM:

" By the looks of most comments it seems as though there are a lot of over aged children. Wrong is Wrong, We can chuckle or giggle, and maybe we all have done something at one point in time of our lives that seemed just as wrong to our own older generation. I just hope that for these children they live , laugh, cry, and learn. "

kbrules wrote on Mar 18, 2008 8:49 PM:

" yeah i def agree with cocoa and softballa
some other peope i know did not get there comments in here
and they had very good points "

usedtobenormal wrote on Mar 18, 2008 4:08 PM:

" Rest easy Normalites. Smart kids like these two are sure to leave town as soon as they finish high school, and you'll all be safe. "

softballa wrote on Mar 17, 2008 7:15 PM:

" i actually agree with cocoa on this i posted a comment on here twice and neither has showed up.one because i was apologizing about the "threat" about kids vandilizing the ladys house and how i said i wasent going to do it cuz im not stupid and going to get an assult charged on me. "

cocoa wrote on Mar 17, 2008 5:57 PM:

" Pantagraph, are you guilty of discriminating, since you have not approved my last two comments, neither of which was inflammatory and one of which actually apologized to someone for not being aware of the age 13 posting minimum requirement? I'd hate to think you were. "

airwren wrote on Mar 17, 2008 3:51 PM:

" Are you familiar with the math term "pi"? You have to admit that somewhere inside us all we have to chuckle at this article just a little bit. I'm thankful they didn't use a gun. "

Anchor wrote on Mar 17, 2008 3:03 PM:

" jipsi:

First, I am sorry about the "medication" comment and I take back the "tin-foil" reference...That was out of line. Now, to business...You accuse me of taking your knee-jerk, incendiary comments out of context, then in the same posting you erroneously encapsulate your opinion of my thoughts in a three word "Discussion thread"!?!? Pot calling kettle black, eh?

My "THREAD" is not, "pie-in-face = Funny no matter what the context". My Point is that a lot of people (you included) are making a much bigger deal out of this than is reasonable. You have taken this prank and injected words like Abuse, Assault, dangerous, harrassment, victim, attack, and rage. And, out of context or not, you suggested that this type of behavior augers towards the downfall of our society and its "decent" mores....Can you, at any level, acquiesce that you MAY be going a little hard on these KIDS? I think fundamentally you and I agree that these kids should be punished. I think we differ GREATLY on the severity of that punishment. "

itsmichelle707 wrote on Mar 16, 2008 10:13 AM:

" hey guess what guys there is an age limit. maybe if you were MATURE enough to read the terms and rules you would know that its 13.
and by the way i would be one of there friends you would be calling immature. good one guys.
"

kbrules wrote on Mar 15, 2008 1:49 PM:

" to cocoa:
you are absolutely annoying

LETS MAKE A VOTE
who agrees with me
lets stop the madness =D
"

jipsi wrote on Mar 15, 2008 1:46 PM:

" to Cocoa: You hit the nail on the head.
"Perhaps there should be a minimum age requirement for posting..."

LOVE the "neener-neener" reference... LOL

Of course, youth think ANYTHING they have to say is important, even the unsnappy comebacks. (sigh).
Here's to the inevitable justice of KARMA... ;-) "

kbrules wrote on Mar 15, 2008 1:14 PM:

" umm to cocoa
what the heck is karma?
and no thanks
to everyone else
stop nagging about how they shouldve acted
and how it "crossed the line".
ITS OVER "

Tony S. wrote on Mar 15, 2008 7:59 AM:

" Here Kiddy, Kiddy, Kiddy. Here Kiddy, Kiddy, Kiddy. I love pie. "

jipsi wrote on Mar 15, 2008 2:31 AM:

" (cont.)
I gather the "pro's" here are either NOT reading all of the posts (except when they want to REWRITE them to suit) or are stuck on a groove that refuses to see we are NOT saying this wasn't a funny prank: we are saying it bordered on criminal because it was done to a perfect STRANGER, violating their right to privacy AND potentially causing injury. You DO NOT KNOW who is on the other side of the "door". Even door-to-door salespeople know the reaction they receive after knocking is unpredictable.
What if the person answering the door was a recent survivor of a mugging, rape or attempted murder? A joke is only funny if all parties involved KNOW a joke is going on, or they know each other well enough to "handle" the surprise/punch line.

I am not paranoid, psychotic, grumpy or old. I am not on "medication" or any other rude insult the haters here are putting forth. Again, I have been able to debate and discuss without ONCE being mean, derogatory or insulting. Those who think doing so makes them look anything but immature should be ashamed.
"

jipsi wrote on Mar 15, 2008 2:31 AM:

" Anchor: Way to go: you just figured out how to take TWO separate sentences from two different posts and string them together to create an entirely different view! You have a wonderful future awaiting you as either a politician or Enquirer/Star contributor.
... Any one INTELLIGENT would know what "out of context" means, and that it's usually not a good practice.
As lindini put it: "Pie is funny, a paid actor getting hit with pie is funny, even some friends you know well, maybe is funny but to attack a stranger when you have no idea about them or their circumstance is NOT funny, it is assault."

My comment about the decline of civilization: "There is no longer hope for civilization the day everyone DOES agree it's "all in good fun" to enjoy a perfect stranger's distress. Worse, that you EXPECT the injured party to LAUGH, with you."

Your common thread is: "pie is funny". WE AGREE.
Mine (and others) common thread is: "but within LIMITS" (family, friend, etc.). Obviously this is where we DISAGREE.
(cont.) "

cocoa wrote on Mar 14, 2008 9:13 PM:

" to softballa: I certainly hope you aren't suggesting what it sounds like, which is that the victim of this stupid prank will now find herself a target for more children such as yourself and those you "think" are your friends. Perhaps you should read up on the consequences of stalking and harassment before you post veiled threats on a public forum where your IP address can be tracked. Just a thought. :) "

cocoa wrote on Mar 14, 2008 9:08 PM:

" To: ISURedbird - I shouldn't think so, if that is the best "comeback" you can manage.

Who is letting children register to make comments on the Pantagraph blogs, anyway? Perhaps there should be a minimum age requirement for posting, so more mature conversations can take place without a bunch of inarticulate & immature children posting their "neener neener"-type comments. "

ISURedbird wrote on Mar 14, 2008 5:58 PM:

" My "Lazy, Loser generation" is smarter than yours! "

lindini wrote on Mar 14, 2008 4:11 PM:

" On the way home from my step fathers funeral some kids with a video camera ran up to my mother and started making fun of her asking her all sorts of stupid questions and just being generally rude. When they found out that she was returning from her husbands funeral they seemed taken aback but never apologized. The whole incident made me sick. Pranks are only funny to the pranksters and no one has the right to attack someone else. The world lacks empathy, the number one problem with EVERONE today. Pie is funny, a paid actor getting hit with pie is funny, even some friends you know well, maybe is funny but to attack a stranger when you have no idea about them or their circumstance is NOT funny, it is assault. Plain and simple boys. Time to learn a lesson about the real world. "

110100100 wrote on Mar 14, 2008 3:17 PM:

" Ok. The angry mob has shown me the errors of my thinking. I must join their ranks and do what anyone would do when faced with a substance that could be potentially dangerous in the hands of youngsters; call for its criminalization. Therefore, I propose that all pies now be added to the list of controlled substances. This world is too fragile for marijuana, salvia, flavored cigarettes, and the now infamous 'pi.' The DEA and ATF need to conduct mass raids against bakeries to confiscate these weapons of mass destruction and throw the criminal pie manufacturers in prison where they belong! "

willievok wrote on Mar 14, 2008 2:31 PM:

" To those people that think it's funny. Would you still the same way, if it was your 100 year old grandmother being hit? You would try to find them and who knows, what you would do to them, but whatever it is they sure would deserve it. "

HD wrote on Mar 14, 2008 1:06 PM:

" There should not be that many posts on this topic, unless the post says "THIS IS HILARIOUS!!" (assuming the pie did not contain any kind of harmful chemicals or objects) "

ml wrote on Mar 14, 2008 12:27 PM:

" Oh my god, softballa, I'm begging you....learn how to spell!!! It hurts just reading your posts! "

cocoa wrote on Mar 14, 2008 11:56 AM:

" To; 110100100 - LOL!!!! One of your own buddies called you part of the "Lazy, Loser, Crazy Generation", I didn't. LOL. You'd be very surprised to hear my age. I wasn't even a thought in anyone's head when Woodstock happened, LOL. :) Oh, and your comment about Iran further shows your age and immaturity. There are still young people with common decency and respect for others and their properties, so dim bulbs like you aren't the only example of youth today, thank goodness. (Oh, what's that? You aren't a kid? Well then, it just shows where ASSUMING gets you, doesn't it?)

I'm thankful some of the people out here posting are apparently still in school, because they sure need to learn how to use proper grammar and punctuation. Sorry to be the "Grammar Police" but it really will help you be taken more seriously if you can write better. I guarantee you, you won't need to know how to throw pies when you get out into the real world. ;) "

Anchor wrote on Mar 14, 2008 7:04 AM:

" I think jipsi showed true colors at the end of the last rant by stating, "There is no longer hope for civilization..." because two kids hit some one in the face with a pie...It would seem your current medication is not working effectively, Jipsi...that, or the tin foil you wear on your head to keep the Aliens from stealing your thoughts is slowly baking your brain. Can EVEN YOU see that you have gone "over the falls" with your reaction? Are you really boarding up your windows and loading the rifles because of these pie tossing punks? Think about it, dude...think about it.... "

110100100 wrote on Mar 14, 2008 6:48 AM:

" I tell you what 'jipsi,' I don't want to live in a 'civilization' where we can't have a laugh about boys pulling a pie prank, or the young kids are too scared to have any fun because some bitter old fool will come back with 'assault' charges for whipped cream, and other bitter old fools will use words like 'victim,' 'distress,' 'injured party.' Using words like that to describe this article gives me a second laugh.

Oh, and Cocoa, if there's a “Lazy, Loser, Crazy” generation out there, it's the one that burned their draft cards, spit on American soldiers, and ran around at Woodstock in drugged up orgies. Bitter old cranks cursing the younger generations; how original. I bet some old lady was cursing kids back in the 30's for the same stuff. “They get it from those no good 3 Stooges!”

Go live in Iran if you're so in love with intolerance. "

jipsi wrote on Mar 14, 2008 12:20 AM:

" I don't know why some of us can see the wrong in this so clearly, while others are still missing the details that place this incident just OUTSIDE of the context of "harmless" humor...
If a ten year old pulls the hair of the little girl in front of him at the local ice cream shop, and howls with glee at her distress and tears, IF you were his parents and witnessed this, would you tell him to stop and apologize at once to her (and HER shocked parents!), or would you LAUGH uproariously and tell them "oh, kids will be kids, won't they?".
Further, if they TOLD you they were shocked, would you continue to LAUGH at them and remark that they "have no sense of humor"??
If you answered 'yes', to the above scenario, then you either are not a parent yourself, or shouldn't be.
This has been a terribly eye-opening discussion...

There is no longer hope for civilization the day everyone DOES agree it's "all in good fun" to enjoy a perfect stranger's distress. Worse, that you EXPECT the injured party to LAUGH, with you. "

Beowulf wrote on Mar 14, 2008 12:07 AM:

" To: jipsi - Seems like we thought of the same question at the same time. That's how kids get caught - they just CAN'T keep their mouths SHUT! The first rule of doing something you know shouldn't have done.... KEEP YOU'RE MOUTH SHUT! "

Beowulf wrote on Mar 14, 2008 12:01 AM:

" To: beebee - Did you hear me state an opinion on this subject? Since you brought it up though, your friends should be careful. They'll pull some stunt with the wrong person one of these times. You could get away with pranks like that 20-30 ago. Nowadays people aren't as tolerant as they used to be and "Jackass" isn't real life, as much as they would like you to believe it. Just a fair and friendly warning. "

jsnhbe1 wrote on Mar 13, 2008 11:19 PM:

" If I were the woman, yes, I would be a little irratated, but I would have also laughed. I definitely wouldn't have called the police. The boys do not deserved to be charged. It was a prank that got a little out of hand. It's not like they put a pipe bomb in a mailbox and someone's hand got blown off or anything. They didn't egg a house and cause property damage either. The worst thing that came out of this was she had to take a shower and change her shirt. Lady, get over it! "

Cocoa wrote on Mar 13, 2008 10:40 PM:

" I'm glad to hear the two kids got caught. And incredulous that so many of their friends are posting on here in their defense. There IS no defense for what they did, period. Karma bites, kids, just remember that! :)

Oh, and to: C. Bluntsworth - let me just say, It says volumes about you that you would call yourself part of a "Lazy, Loser, Crazy Generation". You saved us from having to come up with a label for you ourselves. Cheers! "

sadmom wrote on Mar 13, 2008 10:09 PM:

" Neither one of these boys has been in trouble for anything. In fact up until this they were great kids, ones any parent would be proud of. This does not excuse what they did. It was wrong, disrespectful and cruel. It crossed the lines of a practical joke when they played it on a stranger. Had this been one of thier friends or a friends parent, thats funny stuff. But it wasn't. They will learn quickly what facing the consequences really means. I hope it teaches them forethought and accountability. I personally know them and this sickens me that they did this thinking it was ok. So, all you little highschool buddies of thiers, get over it, it was wrong and your parents would kill you if you had done this. I know mine would have. So its not funny, and no they shouldn't be punished to the full extent of the law. They should have enough consequences to put these good model teenagers back on the right track. They are good boys from good families that were raised with proper morals. "

What now? wrote on Mar 13, 2008 8:22 PM:

" The last few posters on here actually show the immaturity of today's youth. Yes, I said today's youth and guess what I am probably not much older than any of you. I think you actually need to seek professional psychiatric help. You do not walk up to someone you don't know and throw something in their face? This town needed a laugh? Grow up! They actually thought this out to throw it at someone that would not take off after them. If they would have picked the wrong person just think- it would not be funny. "

softballa wrote on Mar 13, 2008 7:52 PM:

" also i love how there are like 65 comments on here for a practicle joke. ahaha those kidds are gonna be famous at school tomarrow congrats boys =]] "

softballa wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:49 PM:

" and honestly lady i must say your not that smart of a gal if you gave your adress out to the public. seriously, teens that have read this are most likley going to rebel againsst you in some way or another such as teeping or vadalizing which is wayyy worse then some pie throws. WOW this town must be hurting for juicy stories in this town. i mean seriously, a pie in the face BIG WOOP that definatly needs to be the headlines in the newspapers and on the nine oclock news. but anyways today i heard that the boys got caught. CONGRADULATIONS lady you won wow your cool. you may have taught them a lesson and there prbly not gonna thrwo another pie but thats not gonna stop them from doing other stuff in the future. maybe you were a perfect angel as a kidd but most kidds are just out there to have a good time. aka the pie throwers. so wow lady just wow.
"

softballa wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:49 PM:

" ahahhahahah wow 3 cheers for the boys this town needed a little laugh. personally i think this lady OVERRACTED way to much. she probably had no fun as a kidd. most people have at least played one or two pranks in there life. sure it was probably back in the day [no offense] when nobody cared. but serioulsy, if your a 15 year old boy, throwing a pie in a ladys face, thats pretty dang hystericle. this was just a practicle joke lady. it may have scared the crap out of you but you took this too far. the woman did give good details to the police but she failed to say what kinda of pie it was if this was a paper plate w/ whipp cream on top thats one of a pie i must say. NOT!! and if it was a home cooked delicious pie. then why would two teenage (most likely hungry) boys throw the pie?? THEY'D BE EATING IT! duhhhhh. going on to another messge ...
"

kbrules wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:29 PM:

" i think its funny how a pie in the face is all over the news and papers. it was just a pie. its not like they hurt her. so everyone needs to stop making such a big deal about it. just to make you happy they got caught today. yeahh i would be a little mad if there was a pie in my face. but seriusoly, its a joke. i know the kids who did it and they would never hurt anyone. they're just having fun and doing something different rather than TPing or egging a house. i personally thinks its the best thing ive heard in awhile. so shut up you grouchy old people and live a little. "

itslauren909 wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:18 PM:

" ohkay so i know the guys
their nice and their good people.
talked to them today before they got pulled out of class
good god people
if someone i didnt know threw a pie in my face i would start dieing laughing and throw it back at them. be like here you want to try some?
all they were trying to do was get some extra credit.
let it go. everyone gets pranked, and everyone pranks people "

beebee wrote on Mar 13, 2008 4:47 PM:

" to jipsi and Beowulf: I would know that because I KNOW the boys that did it. thank you very much. i go to the same school they do, i have had plenty of conversations with them and they happen to be my friends. they are not bad people. they are two teenage boys who might not be the brightest crayons in the box, but they are going to do stupid things just like everyone else in this world. so get over it. by the way... they got "caught" today, so now you can have a party that these two boys are in the hands of the cops. your opinions no longer matter. its done and its over with. so leave it alone. "

C. Bluntsworth wrote on Mar 13, 2008 3:28 PM:

" And for the people saying, "what if it were one of your loved ones that this happened to... it wouldn't be so funny." Yes... in fact, no matter which member of my family was hit in the face with a pie, I would still laugh. Same as if it happened to me. It was a pie... thrown in someones face... pull the stick out of your a** and untwist your panties. In other news, police are looking for a suspect in a seperate ASSAULT case involving a person being squirted in the face with water through a fake, button on flower. The suspect is described as having Orange Frizzy hair, a red nose, white makeup, and oversized shoes. Police are asking for the publics help in catching this BRUTAL monster. "

C. Bluntsworth wrote on Mar 13, 2008 3:26 PM:

" And for the people saying, "what if it were one of your loved ones that this happened to... it wouldn't be so funny." Yes... in fact, no matter which member of my family was hit in the face with a pie, I would still laugh. Same as if it happened to me. It was a pie... thrown in someones face... pull the stick out of your a** and untwist your panties. In other news, police are looking for a suspect in a seperate ASSAULT case involving a person being squirted in the face with water through a fake, button on flower. The suspect is described as having Orange Frizzy hair, a red nose, white makeup, and oversized shoes. Police are asking for the publics help in catching this BRUTAL monster. "

C. Bluntsworth wrote on Mar 13, 2008 3:15 PM:

" I think this is absolutely hilarious. I busted out in uncontrollable laughter when I read this. Seriously... she got hit in the face with a pie! If you are soooooo uptight that you can't even take a joke as little as this then for the love of God, (uh oh... he said it!) lighten up. That is what's wrong with our world today man, everybody walks down the street with the expectation of being robbed or murdered so they look away in fear instead of being civil and saying hi. I'm only 20 years old, and saying that, i'm sure i just lost a whole lot of credibility with most of you because i'm just another dude from this "Lazy, Loser, Crazy Generation" But I have a good head on my shoulders, a full time job, and pay for all of my own expenses, so I think I have a pretty good idea of what it's like to be an "adult" if you guys can even call yourselves that. "

mixdown wrote on Mar 13, 2008 1:44 PM:

" The very fact that this story is even newsworthy speak volumes about B/N. "

What now? wrote on Mar 13, 2008 1:23 PM:

" "Selected at random?" This sounds like they had thought this out. The 2 knew who they were targeting not to get the crap beat out of them. I hope they get what's coming to them. ASSULT CHARGES! "

Gov't oppressed Mule wrote on Mar 13, 2008 12:11 PM:

" The Three Stooges Live!!! (Well 2 of them anyways) "

jipsi wrote on Mar 13, 2008 11:27 AM:

" I find it highly enlightening that the commenters who are have found this a NOT SO HARMLESS "prank" have offered up valid points of the potential harm that could be caused (to both sides), ie: we/they CARE about both sides, while those advocating it as "kids being kids", pepper their comments with catty taunts and remarks meant to HURT those of us who don't agree with them.
You may disagree with my position on this, all you want, but when you lace your disagreement with personal jabs, you start to resemble the punk kids that did this: thoughtless and mean.
I have not YET ridiculed or name-called anyone here by name, and will not.
Try to return me, and others, the same respect?



"

willievok wrote on Mar 13, 2008 9:42 AM:

" I would have followed them and beaten the crap out of them because what they did was an assault and you have the right to defend yourself. These two idiots are going to be caught, if they continue doing it and some Insane person like me may be their next intended victim and their last too. I forgot they won't try it on a man because they don't have the basket ( BALLS ) to try it. To think it's funny makes you worse than these two idiots. "

110100100 wrote on Mar 13, 2008 6:15 AM:

" LMOA. 'jipsi' has lost it. Way to turn a funny story about kids and a pie prank into a psychopathic rant. Obviously you've been the victim of similar 'attacks.' Do you wake up at night screaming, trying to wipe whipped cream out of your eyes and hair? Are you terrified of thanksgiving dinner, knowing you'll have to face the pumpkin pies? "

jipsi wrote on Mar 13, 2008 12:48 AM:

" THANK YOU, Beowulf! LOL...
And you said (asked) it so much more CONCISELY! LOL...

"

Beowulf wrote on Mar 13, 2008 12:24 AM:

" beebee sez - " oh and to jipsi... if it were an elderly person they would not have thrown the pie at them. " And how, EXACTLY, do you know this, beebee? "

jipsi wrote on Mar 13, 2008 12:23 AM:

" oh, and to BeeBee : Hmmm. How would YOU know this (that the kids would have changed their mind about pie'ing the door-answerer, had it been a frail elderly person.)??
If they were foolish enough to be recording a prank that they HAD TO KNOW was going to startle the living daylights out of their victim (see, there's the linchpin of the whole thing: it's CRUEL to do something to someone if you KNOW beforehand they WILL NOT like it!), it's pretty certain they would have followed through.
See, I could be at a stoplight, on a warm summer day with windows down, and if two teens I didn't know ran up to my car (with water balloons behind their backs), I might have a heart attack (thinking I'm about to be car-jacked or shot or both) BEFORE that soft water-filled projectile hits me. And I'm supposed to LAUGH?? Some of you just DON'T GET IT...
Times are DANGEROUS thesedays, and thinking the kids walking up to you on the street are going to help you cross it CAN be the WORST judgement you make. People have been KILLED falling for less than what SEEMS harmless... "

jipsi wrote on Mar 12, 2008 11:44 PM:

" Many of us learned as children to RESPECT certain "rules of engagement", if you will, in social interaction...
Now, if your parents didn't teach you this, you might consider UNDERSTANDING why this prank was dangerous for BOTH PARTIES: if the boys had pie'd (or pi'd, I GET the joke) their MOM, or AUNT, or friend, it would have been a good laugh! They did not, though; they went to the door of a complete stranger, not knowing how COMPLEX a possible reaction might result.

Others have brought up some of those POTENTIAL RISKS (they were NOT "threatening" or exhibiting "rage", but suggesting the "what-ifs"!), and if anyone thought long and hard enough, they'd realize they, too, would NOT want THEIR boys on the porch of someone who might be a big, mean mudda that just might "bring them in for a talk". There's some scary people "out there". And kids/teens face too many dangers these days as it is, without pranking the wrong door and regretting (if they make it away from the possible Dammer's and Gacy's) that decision to "pick a door, pick ANY door". "

jipsi wrote on Mar 12, 2008 11:22 PM:

" to Zeva: Nope, no "anger issues" here. I use CAPS "within" (not the same as leaving the CAPS key on throughout) my posts often because I am emphasizing certain words, not shouting. We don't exactly have "bold" or "italics" available in the posting process here. I'm a writer and totally dependant on my "emphasis" tools, and without them, I tend to use the CAPS key. ...

OH! Wait, you think I have "anger issues" because I think children/teens going to a STRANGER'S door (oops, those emphasising caps again!) and chucking a pie in their face is NOT a "harmless, funny prank" but a random ATTACK that could have tragic consequences for either the pie-throwers OR the pie-ee? Just because I dn't AGREE with the yukkers does NOT mean I'm "angry". It means I'm looking at the "what-ifs" a little more closely than they are. And I'm raising my children to be absolutely "over-aware" of how their actions impact others. The most dangerous difference between "now" and "back then" is that youth today have completely lost respect for not only their own parents, but for other ADULTS in general! Respect starts AT HOME. "

lalala wrote on Mar 12, 2008 8:42 PM:

" ahahahahaha well firstly i think this is hysterical. but i dont get why everyone is making such a big deal over it, when there bigger stuff happening in the news like for say people DIEING. Also i think the lady who called the cops needs to get a sense of humor, i mean really who's gonna call the cops over stupid pie, which was probably whip cream anyways, in the face for pi day. Also i dont think these guys should be charged for assault, just like mixdown said it should be painful, i dobut it was, also its better then them TPing, robbing or vandalizing. "

Redryder wrote on Mar 12, 2008 7:53 PM:

" The real story is that the two boys asked the lady if she knew what pie was, she didn't know so they threw a plate with whipped cream in her face. You gotta be glad that these boys play pranks instead of shooting people, prolly wanna of the best pranks he/she has done yet. LOL wish I was there. "

Redryder wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:11 PM:

" The real story is that the two boys asked the lady if she knew what pie was, she didn't know so they threw a plate with whipped cream in her face. You gotta be glad that these boys play pranks instead of shooting people, prolly wanna of the best pranks he/she has done yet. LOL wish I was there. "

Titan120 wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:03 PM:

" A big part of me thinks that these kids knew this woman somehow. I would think it would be difficult to randomly choose a house in a subdivision in late afternoon that does not have a strong man (or woman even), older kids, or a big dog in it. I guess they could have just gotten lucky, but if I were going to play a prank like that, I would make sure that no one/thing could come out after me!!

Personally, I don't open my door unless I know the person standing outside. That my sound stupid, but I don't really care. I don't have to talk to anyone I don't want to while I'm inside my house! "

Anchor wrote on Mar 12, 2008 5:45 PM:

" To AK -

What I am saying is that this is not that big of a deal. Wrong, sure. CRIMINAL...come on. Some people are crying, "ASSAULT" and calling for the police to arrest and punish these KIDS... Maybe the example I used was over the top, I'll acquiesce to that. When I was a kid I threw a rock at a neighbor's house and broke a window. No one called the cops or sued my family. My folks cut a check and I had to work off the $$ for the new window by doing yard work at the house where I broke the window. I think that was a better lesson than getting a destruction of private property charge and serving time....try this...read 'ZEVA's' posting to this article, then read the very next one by 'jipsi'. Ask yourself what side you stand on... "

beebee wrote on Mar 12, 2008 5:10 PM:

" oh and to jipsi... if it were an elderly person they would not have thrown the pie at them. "

Thero wrote on Mar 12, 2008 4:54 PM:

" To "Jipsi" and "HRPuffnstuff" ..... Go change your pad already!!! "

110100100 wrote on Mar 12, 2008 4:52 PM:

" I seriously could not stop laughing when I read this story. I forwarded it my coworkers and they were all busting up too. Some of you people are flat out psycho and should go see a shrink! There's comments on here babbling about breaking bones, knocking out teeth, pulling guns, on and on. Aren't you all so brave. Sure, I woulda been mad, probably would have been chasing them down the street with my belt, but call the police!? Pshhhh, give me a break. If you people never pulled pranks like this when you were kids then you must have had some sad childhoods. Maybe that's why you're all so bitter and irrational. This is one of the oldest pranks in the books, you guys act like it's teenage terrorism. Grow up. "

walker wrote on Mar 12, 2008 3:51 PM:

" Sooo, say this woman owned a American Pitt Bull Terrier, or "pitbull" as they are known around here. She opens the door, teens hit her in the face with pie (I guess we could classify it as assault), and the dog takes chase and bites the teens while protecting the owner... Then we would have a story on another pitbull mauling and everyone would be up in arms.

Kids should be carefull with pranks. If you dont know the person, you dont know the reaction, or who is there defending them. "

lulz wrote on Mar 12, 2008 3:35 PM:

" I lol'd. Then again, I'm have a sense of humor so what can I say? "

flex remmington wrote on Mar 12, 2008 3:15 PM:

" cant wait to see it on youtube
"

mixdown wrote on Mar 12, 2008 3:07 PM:

" HRPuffinstuff, I'll bet you cry during Bambi, don't you? "

mixdown wrote on Mar 12, 2008 3:04 PM:

" This really isn't worth getting that excited about. I mean, should they have done it? Perhaps not, but it's not that different from TP-ing. In fact, this was done in better taste (pun fully intended)! Now granted, I work with teenagers and actually enjoy it (in fact I live for it), while most adults are horrified at the idea of doing what I do, so maybe you have to have the right mentality. I will grant that if you're going to do something like that, you should probably know the person you're doing it to. But good grief, people get robbed and vandalized, and people are worrying about pie. I also think that for something to be considered "assault" it should be painful (and with malicious intent). I don't know in this case. It depends on how hard they pied her. By the way, what flavor was it anyway? "

isuredbird wrote on Mar 12, 2008 2:42 PM:

" I thank these boys for bringing a smile to my day. God Bless. "

vzbb wrote on Mar 12, 2008 2:15 PM:

" haha if this happened to me, I'd laugh it off. At least it wasn't filled with nails and it doesn't seem to be that cruel compared to what other teenagers do. "

michelle24 wrote on Mar 12, 2008 1:57 PM:

" I don't blame mom for calling the police. If it we're me, it would depend on the mood. If it was rubarb (sp) pie, they'd be toast..but banana creme? I might share it with them! :) "

AK wrote on Mar 12, 2008 1:52 PM:

" To Anchor – What do you mean, “At least these kids are not going on a shooting spree in the mall....Kids will be kids.”????

Are you saying we have gotten to the point that this is all we are asking of teens? Come on, what they did to this woman was wrong! Trying to excuse it by saying at least they are not murders, is ridiculous!
"

Zeva wrote on Mar 12, 2008 1:04 PM:

" To jipsi: It seems you have some anger issues! Hang in their it'll pass. Granted they shouldn't have done it to a stranger, mom or dad would have been better, but it's a pie!! I probably would have laughed and then washed my face. I would have watched for them and then pied them back. So it goes, another pie day. "

JimmyChooGirl wrote on Mar 12, 2008 12:22 PM:

" Not cool. Luckily this was not a frail older person because the strength of a pie being thrown in their face could have knocked them over and hurt them or even killed them.

Kids - next time you think of doing a prank that involves other people...watch the movie "Sleepers" (Brad Pitt, Brad Renfro, Kevin Bacon, Robert DiNero). I bet you won't think your prank idea is funny anymore. "

OODUCK wrote on Mar 12, 2008 12:12 PM:

" Come on pieboys bring it on! And you'll be fed through a straw for a few weeks and remember pie r square and someone will square it with you. "

ml wrote on Mar 12, 2008 12:09 PM:

" HRPuffinstuff...I totally agree with you and the same thoughts crossed my mind. Are these people serious when they say it was OK because the kids didn't physically harm the woman and that they are "just being kids"? What lazy, overindulging parents they must be. It's no wonder kids now are spoiled rotten with no sense of right and wrong...they are learning behavoral patterns modeled by thier parents. Get a grip, folks, and raise your kids to respect others! "

jimmy james wrote on Mar 12, 2008 11:57 AM:

" it's truly comforting to see the masses overreact to a prank like this one, while remaining either blind or mute to all of the problems we face in our community, state, nation and world. readers are outraged and post to STUPID stories like this, while stories of true importance are uncommented upon- and likely unread. it's no wonder we're in the mess we're in when getting a pie in the face at your door (however disrespectful and wrong it is) somehow equates to a loss of "feeling secure in your own home" and even "assault". PRIORITIES, anyone? or is everyone too busy living in our culture of fear and waiting for the opportunity to vent about the next personal outrage to actually care about the things that MATTER? "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Mar 12, 2008 10:33 AM:

" Actually, Jipsi is right. Tickling can be a form of abuse if the person begs for it to stop and they have tears running down their face and they're peeing their pants. And no, that's not over reacting and is certainly not the reason why parents aren't allowed to beat, or "spank", their kids. Actually, kids that are spanked on a regular basis grow numb to it, and it doesn't teach them a lesson - especially if the punishment doesn't fit the crime. It would be those kids that would be the type to go out and throw pie in a stranger's face. "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Mar 12, 2008 10:28 AM:

" Hold on....are some people actually saying that what these kids did was okay, simply because they didn't shoot the woman or beat her up. This is supposed to be okay because they weren't peddling crack? It's okay to walk up to some stranger's house and throw a pie in their face as long as they didn't shoot up their school or rob a bank? Some people have some messed up values and priorities. I'm not saying they should go to jail or something, but what they did was wrong and they deserve to be punished. What kind of example are some of you commenters setting when you laugh it off and say "Kids will be kids, at least they didn't kill someone"? "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Mar 12, 2008 10:23 AM:

" This is appalling! Yeah sure, I bet these kids thought this was sooo funny. And their friends probably peed their pants laughing over this video that they no doubt watched over and over and over again. However, if my kid were responsible for something like this, he'd be wishing he was sent to jail compared to the punishment that faces him at home! The first privilege that would be taken away from him would be his friends. Then I'd make him eat pie until he pukes. Breakfast, lunch, and dinner would be pie. And let's not forget morning and afternoon snacks! There'd be no t.v., no phone, no going out, no nothing but homework and writing a nice long apology letter - along with an offer to do work around his victim's home until he's sufficiently made up for throwing a pie in the woman's face. And that's only the beginning.... "

garden lady wrote on Mar 12, 2008 9:50 AM:

" These kids need to watch out who they mess with. I cared for 2 ISU boys in the ER. They were on the roof of a building throwing pebbles onto passing cars. One of the drivers surprised them on the roof. both boys ended with broken noses.
Just because a woman answers the door does'nt mean she is alone. She may have a husband or son who would defend her. I saw my Father jump a fence chasing a teenage boy that he thought was being rude to my older sister. "

JD wrote on Mar 12, 2008 9:35 AM:

" It is a funny story, but it could have had a not so funny ending. The boys should have waited until Friday (3.14). That is national pie day. I loved Soupy Sales. "

Mike Achertz wrote on Mar 12, 2008 9:01 AM:

" HAHA!! This. Is. Great! Made my morning. All of those complaining...get over your non-important selves. Kudos to those kids. "

Not so Political wrote on Mar 12, 2008 8:54 AM:

" will this be on you tube or break.com ? "

Michael wrote on Mar 12, 2008 8:28 AM:

" These boys gotta realize, even women have guns. They wouldn't have thought it so funny if the person that answered the door shot them both! Now, that's a video for youtube! "

jipsi wrote on Mar 12, 2008 8:28 AM:

" to "imamom": (BTW, me., too)... To some, getting a pie in the face might be "no big deal" (same with "tickling").

For others, it IS a big deal!... It doesn't matter if WE think the behavior is not a big deal ("Hey, it's just tickling!" or "It's just a pie in the face!") - what matters is respecting the other person's boundaries. These pranksters DID NOT know their victim, that it might NOT be "okay" with her. She might have answered the door carrying her infant, or that the victim might be an elderly person with balance or heart conditions! Would this story be as FUNNY if the person had experienced a heart attack from the extreme startlement?

And BTW, tickling (and "pie in the face") may sound like an innocuous activity, and indeed it can be fun and harmless if it's engaged in voluntarily or among people who know each well. "Excessive tickling" IS documented as a form of abuse (not my "overreaction"), because to continue such behavior despite the individual's/victim's - child or adult - crying, gagging or wetting their pants despite please to "stop" is ABUSIVE, and borders on sadistic. "

????????????? wrote on Mar 12, 2008 7:52 AM:

" good lord people....it was a pie not a bag of dog doodo. hey kids come to my house make mine key lime please "

liveguy wrote on Mar 12, 2008 7:08 AM:

" OK, I'll admit, when I first read this article I laughed. I couldn't help it. The question that preceded the pie did it. But in all honesty, its not funny, and it is assault. Just as throwing water ballons at random strangers in the summertime would be assault. Especially when something like that happens at your home, where you have a right to feel safe....I take back my laugh, and I apologize. "

who cares wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:59 AM:

" they probably shouldn't have done that but it could have been a lot worse.terrible thing to do to your pie. "

normalguy wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:56 AM:

" well finally a case the the normal police department is willing to sink their teeth into. "

cubbies wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:49 AM:

" Next time those boys get the urge to do something, come to my door and see how far they get. Not far with broken bones and pride. It's not funny in the least bit. I'm glad she called the cops. They knocked on her door and encroached her property. Bad boys-bad boys-whatcha gonna do when they come for you... "

Anchor wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:18 AM:

" If this happened to me I think at first I would be MAD!! But after the initial shock wore off I would have to chuckle...Seems a lot of people are up-in-arms about this. Lets put this in perspective...At least these kids are not going on a shooting spree in the mall....Kids will be kids. And kids play stupid jokes. This is how it should be. I am sure some of you want to see a lengthy prison term for these jokesters but I contend a strong talking to (trying hard not to laugh) and an apology is all that is needed here. "

BARLOW wrote on Mar 12, 2008 6:00 AM:

" This story is NOT funny at all. I hope the people that do think it is funny....that something like this happens to one of your loved ones! "

G. Swardson wrote on Mar 12, 2008 5:35 AM:

" I hope that when they are caught and busted for assault someone catches that on video and uploads it to the internet. "

imamom wrote on Mar 12, 2008 2:23 AM:

" jipsi, seriously TICKLING can be abuse?? it's people like you who overreact like this, that parents can't spank their kids...in which their kids do things like throw a pie in a strangers face and tape it. "

John wrote on Mar 12, 2008 1:17 AM:

" But pi day isn't until Friday, 3-14. These kids were a little early. "

jipsi wrote on Mar 11, 2008 11:54 PM:

" To those who think this was FUNNY ("Way to go, boys"???): NOT, NOT, NOT! I agree with David. This CROSSED THE LINE! She is NOT their own Mom, or Aunt, or sister who MIGHT laugh about it later. Further, That it was videotaped is akin to HARASSMENT, as it will be HER HOME, HER FACE, HER INDIGNITY, played countless times to MORE strangers online (or TV??). How would YOU feel, knowing YOUR Mom was assaulted and insulted by STRANGERS this way?? Even TICKLING someone can cross the line into ABUSE (it doesn't HURT? Who are you to KNOW?). I hope this gets tracked back to the punks, and that they are appropriately punished. It's DISRESPECT (at best?), and assault (at worst), but NEITHER are safe or to be condoned! This is NOT the kind of "fun" I'd care to see become rampant in town, once every other little bored and borderline-criminal gets the "idea" to try something similar! I WONDER about some of you here (what were YOUR boys doing yesterday afternoon, again?)... shame on those who thought this "random" surprise attack/assault was FUNNY just because it was done with a PIE. tsk. tsk. "

Zeva wrote on Mar 11, 2008 11:52 PM:

" Chances are if you go to either Facebook, MySpace, or You Tube you'll see it. I'll bet they did that to put it on one of those. It's not funny, but at the same time it is. Years ago kids did goofy stuff like this and no one thought anything of it. But times have changed drastically. My dad told me of the time they took a man buggy and put it on the roof of his barn. Another time they dumped an outhouse over on the door with someone in it. Times haven't changed much, just the pranks. By the way is your refrigerator running, well, go catch it.!!! "

Chelly wrote on Mar 11, 2008 10:45 PM:

" Not only was it stupid but the boys recorded the assault and I am sure any prosecutor would love to have that tape to use as evidence. It does sound funny until it is you getting hit and by someone you dont know. They are lucky that the person they picked didnt have a gun and shoot them. "

whatevercple wrote on Mar 11, 2008 10:37 PM:

" I dont thinkits too funny at all, not even cute! I wish that were my mom they put a pie in her face cause she would have grabed them up by there shirt tale and give them something to laugh about, then called the police and it would have been considered self defense. Laugh at that one! kids are kids yes, but there are better things to do as far as jokers or pranksters. This is where it all starts right here. then wonder why tey fight in school and it goes to knives and guns! Some people find others humor not so humorius. "

long_time_gone wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:49 PM:

" I don't really think it's funny, either. These same kids are probably out scratching up cars or who knows what else, videotaping it and thinking it's funny. Those of you laughing should imagine the person getting hit in the face with a pie as yourselves. How funny is it now? "

Ernesto wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:46 PM:

" This is very similar to a situation that occurred on winter break. My friend and his home was assaulted by a prank that many people would think was hilarious,but his parents did not have that feeling and called the cops. How does a treadmill, old Christmas trees, and a kiddie pool make someone call the cops? Oh John, you are so dumb. "

David wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:41 PM:

" Most of us have done things in our younger years that seemed funny at the time, yet later we reflect on these events and realize how ridiculous we were acting. With the risk of sounding hypocritical, this act clearly crossed a line I would have never contemplated in my younger years. This "prank" in my opinion was malicious for the following 3 reasons: 1. there was a specific person being targeted (as opposed to an inanimate object) 2. there was physical contact with the victim 3. the event was recorded (assumably to share on a forum such as youtube). We have to draw a line at some point between "kids being kids" and kids carrying out criminal acts. "

Hary wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:30 PM:

" this is assault. I hope these boys are caught!
you stay out of my space and I won't get into yours. "

kindaliberalchristian wrote on Mar 11, 2008 9:13 PM:

" to: Posters who think this is funny....

When a woman is at home with her children, and answers the door to be assaulted, this is not funny. You do not know the circumstances of the situation, but this takes away her feeling of safety and security in her home. You may think it is funny, but you are not a woman who is fairly new to town....who felt threatened. "

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