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" To Modulation. Dude! You're a lib'rule just like me! Centrist? According to your conservative buddies, that just makes you a lefty. You either agree with EVERYTHING our divinely ordained president says and does or you might as well have a Soviet flag next to a portrait of Karl Marx hanging on your living room wall. Pro-choice? That's an especially grevious offense, my friend. Sure you don't want to force other people into gay marriage followed by a flag burning while you're at it? Seriously though, you might not buy into the social conservatism, but you DEFINITELY buy into the fiscal conservatism. Otherwise, you wouldn't buy into the ideas that EVERYONE who winds up old and broke does it through their own fault, that tax raises are ALWAYS a bad thing, or that private enterprise ALWAYS does things better than the government does. "

" As far as the school funding issue goes, I actually agree with you. We do a horrible job of funding our education system in Illinois, partly because of tax misers like you. Personally, I'd be all for a state tax raise accompanied by property tax relief. It would not only fund our schools better, but more equally. Unfortunately, the collar counties realize it means less money for THEIR schools and since they have the clout to kill this idea, they would. We'll see if your rumor turns out to be true. If it is, I will howl just as loudly as you about it, my friend. By the way, many of the problems on the state level were inherited by Blago as legacies from the Edgar and Ryan administrations, but I'll grant he hasn't been that effective is dealing with them, mostly because he thinks he can take on Emil Jones and Michael Madigan and win. Yeah, right. "

" To Modulation. And how long did Chicagoland need those road improvements before they finally received them? I-355 was initially planned in 1962 during the tenure of Otto Kerner Jr., and was originally supposed to be open by 1980. Yet it didn't open until almost 10 years later. I lived in the area it serves when it opened, and boy let me tell you, were the locals relieved to FINALLY have it, and being a driver, I could see why. Illinois 53 was a constipated mess. It was also common perception that Thompson hadn't made it the priority it should have been; thus the delay. "

" To PH: I for one, and have indicated other times, do not follow one party with strict loyalty. I vote for the person that has the best ideas and follows my ideals. As for local politics that is most definantly Republican because of the lack of choices. I am not against voting for a democrat and have a lot of interest in Obama and think he has good ideas my concern is lack of foreign experience and now his statement of bringing in Gore into his cabinet. I though am not about party loyalties, I vote for the best candidate regardless of party affiliation. I will not however, vote for Blago. He is no better than George Ryan in my book and both are crooks. So do not attempt to label me as a conservative republican I am a centrist and will vote either party. I believe in a womens right to choose, I do not agree with Concealed Carry or a right to own any type of weapon possible. So as you can see I am not a true republican nor am I a true democrat. "

" I guess you forget that under Republican leadership there was the planning and completion of I355, Reconstruction of the Stevenson Expressway, Reconstruction of the Dan Ryan, and Planning of the I355 Extension. The I355 Extension may have been completed under Blago but it was conceived and designed under republican administration. Those alone are multi billion dollar projects, but I guess that those do not count. There is also the reconstruction on Wacker Drive. Maybe again little man you need some research into these issues. Oh and by the way it is rumored that your governor will not make the last two payments to school districts this year but push them back into next FY, basically returning school funding to what is was years ago. Yes the Dems. sure do know how to fund and handle the state. That issue alone will affect all Children. Less you forget it is all Dem leadership and Dem controlled legislature. "

" To Modulation. First of all, disdain for Blago's behavior (which really is the reason for the Illinois Democratic parties current state of disarray, isn't it?) is bipartisan. Even his own Lieutenant Governor wants him out! That’s the difference between us lib’rules and you conservatives. We don’t blindly worship our representatives as they drive us off a cliff like you guys did with GWB. However, you say I gave no logical evidence for my assertion. You are wrong. My logic is quite valid. What I failed to give was supporting empirical evidence, not logical evidence. Haven't I upped your game at least to this level yet? Guess not. As far as the Republican governorships shorting Democratic areas...one need only look at the infrastructure needs of the Chicago area and how much better funded they are now than then. If downstate is being ignored now, it’s only because Chicagoland wasn’t getting what it needed to sustain their massive infrastructure earlier. Maybe it’s because those urban folks were too busy funding the massive agricultural subsidies that made rich men of the farmers who helped you vote down a new Manor. Funny that…welfare is good enough for them, but not for the poor. "

" To PH: Ah yes and once again you make statements without ANY logical proof that that state; "However, this has not prevented the Thompson, Edgar, and Ryan governorships from awarding the big money to districts that vote Repubican and from shorting the Democratic areas as much as they can." I can not imagaine anything that has been shorted to the democratic side of the state by a republican governor. Oh yes and I imagine that the money provided to Pontiac for a new State police HQ was because this is a Red area of the state.

But of course the Lovely Democratic leadership of this state would never do anything to hurt the children of our state would they? "

" To Modulation. The difference is that politicians CAN'T ignore Chicagoland, as they have 70% of the population of Illinois within four counties, while Chicagoland CAN ignore us. However, this has not prevented the Thompson, Edgar, and Ryan governorships from awarding the big money to districts that vote Repubican and from shorting the Democratic areas as much as they can. Notice, I say as much as they can. If 70% of the population of this state were solidly Republican, I dare to say they would have acted just as the Democrats do today, an assertion backed up by comparisons to states that ARE overwhelmingly conservative like Texas. The behavior of Republicans (especially the 109th congress) on a national level has certainly created a bitter division in government on all levels, and I see the Illinois Democrat's behavior as connected to that. After all, if you and I, two simple citizens, are incapable of a rational and friendly discourse, how do you expect it to happen in government where money and careers are at stake? "

" To PH: Yes I truly see how the northern part of the state predominantly democratic has been short changed by the past administrations. Maybe you should look at all the money spent on new roads and improvements north of I80 before spouting off. True they provide more taxes and should get more in return but they have not been short changed by anyone, republican governors have had to treat this area with kid gloves in order to get elected so your liberal rant on that issue is a mute point. "

" To Modulation. Welcome back, GK. Actually, I'm not really all that into the idea of preserving the state police building, even if it is a unique building. If we're going to spend taxpayer money, I'd much rather have it help real people like a new Manor would. By the way, to people like you, I'm not a liberal. I'm a lib'rule. Please spell it like you say it and cue the dueling banjos. My original point, however, is that for years the state Republicans have used their dominance to do the same things to the Democrats that the Republicans are having done to them now, and I'm enjoying the show. If it's okay for one party, it's okay for the other, right? "

" simple solution. Take the land and building for 10 bucks and sell it for a lot more. And by the way, thanks again to the dems for Governor Rod. He makes George Ryan look moral. "

" What your back with all your liber blabber again huh. This is not about money that is important at all, unless you feel saving a landmark state police HQ is worthy of saving. All you see is funding and Livingston County and hold up. You do not see the whole picture, as usual. At issue is the liberal Dems that can not manage their money. Ah yes but it is you that feels we should spend $20 plus million on a nursing home that YOU YOUSRSELF have said is not needed at this time. Well little man crawl back into your hole because this is an issue only in your little mind because you see a chance to spew your liberal rant. The majority of people could care less abouth this place and spending this amount of money is foolish to begin with. The county is looking at renovating and restoring, if no money comes through who cares, only you because your see it as an in your face to Republicans. The only loss will be a piece of history. "

" Poor, poor Illinois State Republicans. After decades of being the bully who beats up on the little kid, we're supposed to feel bad for them now that the kid has grown to be bigger than them and is getting revenge. Sorry, you in the conservative 'ol boys network, I remember how cruel you were, and am now enjoying watching you get pummeled. "