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katanauser wrote on Apr 24, 2008 4:20 PM:

" I've always preferred this quote:

"Hating people because of their color is wrong. And it doesn't matter which color does the hating. It's just plain wrong."

Muhammad Ali
"

Cthulhu wrote on Apr 24, 2008 3:35 PM:

" Racism is for liberals. Conservatives believe in empowering individuals. Liberal believe in classifying individuals. "

JimmyChooGirl wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:13 AM:

" I think Li'l Johnny has said it best -

"I don't care what color my neighbors are, I care how they behave"
Kudos to that! "

Knowing is half the battle wrote on Apr 24, 2008 8:27 AM:

" Sometimes, the cats? Which are the statements that are racist? Please provide us with a list, I mean, aside from the comments you make. In the list, please do not include andy and all statements with no mention of hate towards one group, but which simply state honest and pure fact. Thanks, folks. "

G. Larson wrote on Apr 24, 2008 8:12 AM:

" "Until the philosophy which hold one race superior
And another
Inferior
Is finally
And permanently
Discredited
And abandoned -
Everywhere is war -
Me say war."
-Bob Marley, on "War", quoting Emperor Selassie I "

DT wrote on Apr 24, 2008 7:29 AM:

" As long as people, governments, businesses, pollsters, academics, etc. keep separately identifying us by race, racism will exist. Wheneverr asked my race, I say "human." "

Sometimes wrote on Apr 11, 2008 7:39 AM:

" To Big Brother: How about the KKK groups that are still highly active just in our area? There is your ONE example. I could go on and on about other acts of racism but the list is too lengthy and I am not here to appease your naive mind. I don't know if you are really this ignorant to REALLY believe there is no more racism left in this country or what, but your really sadly mistaken if you believe people aren’t still racist. "

Paladin wrote on Apr 10, 2008 6:43 PM:

" ..."subtle racism"... Does that mean, "I have to imagine it" racism? "

Li'l Johnny wrote on Apr 10, 2008 4:12 PM:

" Believe it or not, for at least the last 20 of my 30 odd years with the military, they got it right. The bottom line was and is: if you screw up, if you break the rules you are going to be punished. Whenever a young black soldier tried to cry 'racism' there was usually a black First Sergeant to take that soldier aside and say: "suck it up kid, you did what you did and got caught, has nothing to do with color, has to do with behavior' That has been and continues to be my attitude: I don't care what color my neighbors are, I CARE HOW THEY BEHAVE! "

BMI wrote on Apr 10, 2008 4:11 PM:

" To dwarf: Nobody is saying that one race is inferior to the next. This isn't the 1800's. It's simply being pointed out that if we're going to eliminate racism completely, we need to ALL be willing. With people of all races separating themselves in various ways, how can we stand together? Let's eliminate all of the barriers (even self-formed ones) so we can achieve our goal of solidarity. "

BigBrother wrote on Apr 10, 2008 4:09 PM:

" To Sometimes:

Give me one provable example!!!!! All you do is claim it exists all around us but you do not back up your claim with any evidence. "

Freedm Aint Free wrote on Apr 10, 2008 3:50 PM:

" Love One Another
Love Your Neighbor As You Love Yourself
Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
Love Your Enemies
The best way to get rid of an enemy,
is to make him(her) a friend. ;)
Is it in you?
Are you up for the challenge of improving your world,
one doorstep at a time?
Starting with your own doorsteps of course. "

dwarf wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:45 PM:

" These comments are really funny.

Yes, Central Illinois. Keep telling yourselves that you're horribly disadvantaged by being born white. "

Sometimes wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:37 PM:

" To deny racism still exists well.....like they say....ignorance is bliss!!!!! "

BigBrother wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:19 PM:

" Just where is all this racism? I don't see it. I see people of all races shopping in our stores and all paying the same price. I see people of all races in every part of town buying the same houses. I see employers hiring people of all races throughout our town. I see doctors, nurses, and hospitals treating and caring for all races in our town. I see educators teaching all children to read and write. I see restaurants sitting people of all races next to one another to dine. If this racism everyone is so concerned about actually exists where is it? Show it to me, point it out, write about the acts of prejudice, prove with fact not enuendo. Who is being discriminated against and where? Anyone can claim it exists but proving it with evidence and fact an entirely different story. "

candy wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:19 PM:

" To: BMI yes yes yes!!! Where is the "United Caucasion College Fund"? If we even TRIED that there would be such an uproar! Affirmative action has got to be eliminated also. They segregate themselves and then wonder why the rest of the world does it. "

Great Responsibility wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:06 PM:

" Odd that they said that racism is "still as bad" but "more subtle," yet didn't list any examples of these subtle racist tactics.

Part of getting rid of racism is actually LETTING IT DIE and not digging for things to cry 'racism' about.

This study is already doing more harm than good. "

196670 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:51 PM:

" floyd nailed it. I read on in the article looking for examples of it. But nothing, just oh it's there. Today I think it is more about what I can get if I accuse others of being racist. "

Live Wire! wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:24 PM:

" Groups like this are part of the problem, not part of the solution. Being hypersensitive and forming groups to analyze "subtle" racism is not going to make things better, it just breeds resentment on all sides. "

Sometimes wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:17 PM:

" wa wa wah the poor white man, never got a fair chance in life. "

Sometimes wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:16 PM:

" To BMI: Where is there "all-black" colleges? I think what you mean to say is PREDOMINATELY black colleges. Just as there are some PREDOMINATELY white colleges. Last time I checked it was illegeal to refuse a student due to their race.

This whole subject is just crazy. Nobody is ever going to change their opinions from what they really feel. But this article isn't lying there is so much racism all over, just read some of these comments on this post. "

cats55ire wrote on Apr 10, 2008 1:13 PM:

" I agree with BMI!!!!!!

And pls. let's not forget corporations who have "quotas" which have been in force for YEARS!!!!! That discrimination because one group of applicants must receive a certain "score" on an entrance test while another group's scores are checked but they can incorrectly get ALL answers wrong and STILL go through the employment process . . . guess which group is which!!!!

"

3673 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 12:36 PM:

" If you want facts instead of platitudes then study the crime statistics. Black on white crime is substantially greater than white on black crime. We can't discuss this, however, "Not in our town." "

BMI wrote on Apr 10, 2008 11:55 AM:

" So, everyone wants to be equal? One big happy family? I'm completely cool with that. I would welcome it! So, we need to get rid of all-black colleges, and all-black sholarships, etc... Why do we separate ourselves, but cry foul when society does it? "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:49 AM:

" Gotta love it: "The Cats" is now implying that Christians, at least the white ones, are racist warmongers. That kind of mindset is just one more reason to hope the Democrats don't win big this November. Oh, by the way, it's the Dems who are most adept at "class warfare", playing the race card (even against each other), et al. "

ziggy wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:42 AM:

" To jj2;
I couldn't have said it better my self. I didn't quite know how to word it but you are right. It isn't about color anymore. Actions speak louder than words. You teach people how to treat you. By all admissions, If you act the part expect the consequences. "

vzbb wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:32 AM:

" Maybe someday there won't be so much racism because of all the mixed children who will then have mixed children. Eventually it wont just be white, black, brown, etc..it'll be tan :D But then a new form of racism will occur because history always repeats itself. This topic is old and opinions will never change. Not really sure why this was in the news. "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:29 AM:

" The Democrats don't have- never had- the answers to racial prejudice in this country. As we have seen in the current campaign to nominate a Democrat for president, it exists in the highest levels of the Democratic Party itself. How NAIVE for any person to think that we will be better off with a Democratic sweep? Recent history shows that it's a very dangerous situation when either party gets too much power. "

jj2 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 10:01 AM:

" Racism has never died. It's just blossumed into another form. Has very little to do with color anymore. It is about class, it's about actions and our behavior.
I, a non smoker) was never so ashamed as when I saw a couple of people (one white, one black) making fun of a smoker huddled outside last winter.
Shame on them, shame on the government and our bribing health institutions for making it possible and acceptable. "

The Cats wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:40 AM:

" Subtle...hardly. Just read the comments on this story and all of the stories regarding crimes in B/N. There is racism galore in this town, county, state, and country. Hopefully a Democratic sweep in the fall will start to bring an end to the secularization and class distinction of our government that was brought to us by the radical right wing of the republican party led by the so called christians (small "C" intended), who are about 80% white, and in the top 30% of income earners in the country. "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:36 AM:

" There are at least 2 groups behind reports like this. One is composed of university types, who need continuous funding for research into things most people already know. A second group represents those who would like to see a return to the "Great Society" of the 1960's- that is, vast increases in welfare at all levels of life. I don't think we need reminders that we are all at least a little prejudiced. The trick is to provide equal opportunity without choking society and businesses with picky laws. "

Sometimes wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:12 AM:

" Racism is always going to exist when you have people here saying UHH BUT BLACK PEOPLE CAN BE RACIST TOO. No kidding! Any race has the abilty to have a racist outlook on any other race. That is not the point at WHO can be racist but acknowledging that YES racism is a very big problem in this town and across America. Pointing the finger at other people and saying "we'll they do it too" so-to-speak does not help anything FYI. "

Localgal wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:10 AM:

" There is also racism within a race as well. From my own personal experiences, I have had other blacks give me dirty looks or start to whisper to their friends when they see me. Making rude comments like "she thinks she's better - etc" when in reality I'm just a down to earth person. It's worse when I'm in public with my husband who happens to be a white male. My point is, racism just isn't against another race, it can also occur within a group as well. "

candy wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:09 AM:

" When we continue to honor programs such as affirmative action, we fail to recognize we are 'politely' imposing racism. Why can't people WORK to get that job, or STUDY to get in that school? Even as a minority, wouldn't you want the job knowing you worked hard to get it, not because you got it because of the color of your skin and some law? Everyone should have a fair shot at everything. period. "

Sweetniss34 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 9:05 AM:

" I'd just like to say that most of the time when people talk about racism it's always whites being racist against blacks. However, from my personal experience (and I'm not a racist person at all) I've seen and experienced more black people racist against whites than anything. Someone else said people are people and there should be no "race" and I completely agree with that. People need to stop worrying about the color of someone's skin and like them or not like them for who they are. "

floyd wrote on Apr 10, 2008 8:04 AM:

" As long as you have Jesse Jackson,Al Sharpton and Obama's pastor Wright stirring up racial hate there'll never be any change.
"

apollyon wrote on Apr 10, 2008 7:23 AM:

" Racism will continue as long as we foolishly believe in a concept of race. Race is the root of racism. There are those who will continue to divide us with the concept of race, to keep alive the very idea that we can all be classified by a "race" only serves to prolong the effects of past discrimination. It is time to stop dividing us with race and start uniting us with humanity. When will people figure out that it is the person not the skin color that defines there humanity. "

Mike wrote on Apr 10, 2008 7:00 AM:

" A bit of a tiresome subject, don't you think? "

Gunner wrote on Apr 10, 2008 6:59 AM:

" ???? Is the point of this story wanting to get as many hits as they can to the site? NEWS FLASH: racism still is around. This is almost too much like an onion story. Racism is not funny but I would think there are bigger stories out there than this.... "

Bluedog wrote on Apr 10, 2008 6:50 AM:

" No, can't be. Racism, bigotry, sexism, homophobia, xenophobia, etc. If they are present it's probably where there are humans. "

Woodford Pundit wrote on Apr 10, 2008 6:49 AM:

" Read every word of this article carefully and you'll still come away murmuring, 'huh'? "

protohooman wrote on Apr 10, 2008 5:20 AM:

" "Our" meaning people of all Color and Ethnic Origin, right? "

terry57 wrote on Apr 10, 2008 4:49 AM:

" I BELIEVE THAT RACISM WORKS BOTH WAYS..
IT,S JUST NOT ABOUT BLACK PEOPLE ANYMORE, I HAVE SEEN SOME BLACKS THAT CAN BE THAT WAY TO TOWARDS WHITES, AND THERE ARE SO MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE HERE IN THE U.S. NOW, THAT RACISM IS MORE IN PEOPLE, SUCH AS INDIANS, MEXICANS, AND SO ON, I REALLY DON'T BELIEVE IT IS ALL ABOUT BLACKS THESE DAYS ANYMORE, MAYBE BACK IN THE 60,S .. LETS LET THE 60,S GO...PUT IT BEHIND US...AND DEAL WITH OTHER PEOPLE FROM OTHER COUNTRIES,,LEE "

Zeva wrote on Apr 10, 2008 2:59 AM:

" Racism isn't just white on black anymore, it's also black on white. This is something that should not happen but the wheels are turning and it is beginning to change. "

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