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Gun control measure fails in Illinois House
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SPRINGFIELD -- An attempt to toughen state gun laws fell two votes short of passage in the Illinois House Wednesday.

The proposal, which failed on a 58-58 vote, would have required the sale of handguns to occur at federally licensed firearm businesses, which can ask Illinois State Police for background checks of customers.

The measure, part of Chicago Mayor Richard Daley's gun control agenda, aimed to close the so-called private-sale loophole.

Under state law, persons buying firearms from private sellers at gun shows must undergo a background check.

But, other private handgun sales are not subject to background checks. Supporters of the change said current law allows guns to get into the hands of criminals who would otherwise not be able to buy firearms.

State Rep. Harry Osterman, D-Chicago, said there was a reason he called the measure for a vote Wednesday.

''It's the one year anniversary of Virginia Tech,'' said Osterman, referring to the campus killing rampage that took 32 lives last year.

But, state Rep. Mike Bost, R-Murphysboro, said the proposal would make felons out of people who are trading or selling firearms.

''I don't think we should do that,'' Bost said. ''It's not going to cure your problem with criminals in your city with handguns.''

State Rep. Brandon Phelps, D-Harrisburg, argued the state's budget crunch could leave state police without enough funds to adequately conduct background checks.

''They just don't have money in their budget to be able to do this,'' said Phelps, D-Harrisburg.

Chicago lawmakers, however, said downstate interests should not get in the way of stopping the mounting death toll due to gun violence.

''This is not us against you,'' said state Rep. Deborah Graham, D-Chicago.

''People are being killed every day,'' added state Rep. LaShawn Ford, D-Chicago.

Downstate lawmakers said supporters and opponents of the proposal may never be able to forge a compromise.

''We're always going to have philosophical differences about the issues involving gun ownership in the state,'' said state Rep. John Bradley, D-Marion.

The measure also fell short of passage last April.

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boyles55 wrote on Apr 17, 2008 5:03 PM:

" All i have to say is thank god pro gunners keep fight the good fight "

PoorJimmy wrote on Apr 17, 2008 3:32 PM:

" Glad to see Daley's gun control package has fallen flat in Springfield once again. Another good year for the Illinois State Rifle Association. Keep up the good fight ISRA. "

good ol boy wrote on Apr 17, 2008 9:05 AM:

" It seems a lot of you don't have a clue. When you apply for your FOID card they do a background check. When you go to buy a gun they do another check, only after you clear that check does the waiting period start before you can even pick up the gun. Anyone who thinks adding to this process is going to help any crime rate or prevent any mass killings is crazy. Swift and stong punishment for using a gun in a crime, true length prison terms, and CC laws will be the only thing that will make these criminals and nut cases stop and think before they act!! "

BrettinBloomington wrote on Apr 17, 2008 8:00 AM:

" As usual I shake my head at stupidity. The whole FOID thing is corrupt . The background checks are not being done. I used to work with a person that had had a felony charge, and they gave him a foid anyways. So, if they cannot even get that right, how are they ever supposed to control the laws we already have let alone any new laws. I am an avid sportsman and like guns, and am also all for c/c laws instead of even more useless purchasing laws. For those that do not know how it works, you fill out a foid application yourself or by an employee where you are applying. They ask questions like are you crazy or on drugs or have you committed felonies. You can answer whatever you want to. The background check for FOID cards is a joke. And, only state or fed. mental institutions are required to report to the background check, not private care facilities. If you want a change, make the background check get more involved before more idiotic laws are put on the books. "

Rolling Eyes wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:38 AM:

" Zeva, that is the "next step". Witness how Bloomberg sends his detectives into neighboring states and tries (unsuccessfully) to bust licensed gun dealers for breaking federal law. "

middle of the road wrote on Apr 17, 2008 7:35 AM:

" people that narrow their view until it fits their agenda, are a disgrace and a menace to their community and to the nation. They are easy to find at least. They are the ones that refuse to look at the big picture in any debate or discussion. typical they point to 1 simplistic cause and effect. Then refuse to look at any other factors in the equation. even to the point of refusing to acknowledge obvious truths. "

Zeva wrote on Apr 17, 2008 2:45 AM:

" Let's see, have our politicians thought this out?? I don't think so! Do they not realize that we have surrounding states? They can cross the line and buy them from friends or buddies. This is a stupid law. Besides I've heard lately that bats are being used. I don't know about you, but a gun is far quicker than being beat to death by a bat. That would really hurt and if you didn't die, wow, the recovery period would be forever. I'm not into a lot of pain. If they don't have a gun, they'll use something else, get real Springfield. "

The Original JD wrote on Apr 16, 2008 10:59 PM:

" This is totally preposterious. In order to legally purchase a firearm, one has to have a FOID card. So explain how an individual with a government regulated FOID card has the FOID card is they are not suppose to have firearms? Not to mention that background checks are suppose to be done when the card is applied for and renewed. This is nothing but a feel good idea which will add more beaucracy to a process which already has alot of beaucracy, and will result in nothing...and I mean nothing. Only a fool would fall for this idea and think it actually accomplishes anything. "

middle of the road wrote on Apr 16, 2008 10:08 PM:

" Cats
This does not make it easyier to get handguns. that would require removing a restriction.

"

gad wrote on Apr 16, 2008 9:21 PM:

" cats.....that's a good idea you have. since a few folks in urban areas don't see people as human, lets take guns away from the law abiding citizens. is that the trickle -down theory of gun control, take guns away from non-killers and SOMEDAY pieces of crap can't steal their guns. "

Rolling Eyes wrote on Apr 16, 2008 7:40 PM:

" The Big City Dems know better than any of you bitter fools. Stop clinging to your guns and religion. Give in to those who know better than you. "

BigBrother wrote on Apr 16, 2008 6:41 PM:

" This is a move in the right direction. This slows the attack on the rights of citzens to bear arms. As you can see from the article Chicagos' State Reps want tougher laws. They have banned owning guns in Chicago and they both admit the killing with guns has increased. These are illigal guns in the hands of criminals. Not guns bought and owned legally. Taking the legal guns from law abiding citizens in Chicago has not decreased the body count. It has not removed any illigal guns from Chicagos' streets. It has not saved the lives of any victims. It has only made the victims easier prey. "

The Cats wrote on Apr 16, 2008 5:48 PM:

" Great...make it easier for all to get guns...felons, the mentally ill, etc. Great job legislature. Let's hear how great this is from the "more guns" crowd. "

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