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OGS wrote on Apr 28, 2008 1:12 PM:

" These types of random attacks happen a lot more often in this town than the lame stream media reports. Concealed carry law would decrease these attacks cause the bad guys would never know who was carrying. "

jipsi wrote on Apr 24, 2008 10:45 PM:

" to Townie Here:
No problem and no offense taken.
*I* was wondering where the location was (P hadn't released that info yet, just the street name), and looked it up. I was SHOCKED, as I had always thought this was a nice neighborhood, and my parting comment was that it was a shame to see violence happening EVERYWHERE nowdays, and to all walks of people, not just 'infighting' between the thugs and bad element of late...
Later, I had NO IDEA how I was going to jump in and not cause more problems when the subject seemed to go in the wrong direction here... so I just backed out when I realized my post struck the wrong nerves in the wrong way... ;-(
Mea culpa... "

I_hate_IL,_the_south_is_much_better... wrote on Apr 24, 2008 9:04 PM:

" To: Cub Fan - Bud Man: Thanks for wishing me luck....I'm working on it! :)

To: BMI - "Don't worry!" "

Townie here... wrote on Apr 23, 2008 11:30 AM:

" Also, this article had been updated since it's original and it does say where the street is located...again, though...relevance? "

Townie here... wrote on Apr 23, 2008 10:31 AM:

" Hi HR--ok, it's been a couple days...thought I would explain why I wrote what I wrote. Please see the first post. No one was wondering "where" the street was. My initial thought when I read this was "Why even write that when there's such a stigma regarding the Turnberry's?" I felt that was just stirring the pot. You thought that I was referencing something out of the blue, but I'm truly more level headed than that...and I do accept your apology! :) I guess my point was that it's all the hype that this town has placed on Turnberry anything when it doesn't matter. Crime happens...

No hard feelings jips...I do enjoy your posts...just had to explain my reasoning for mine. "

blogger wrote on Apr 22, 2008 6:04 PM:

" Well, they may do "background checks" for the people who are on lease but let's not be foolish.........not everyone who lives in apartments here in BLM are actually ON the lease. "

Paladin wrote on Apr 22, 2008 2:32 PM:

" ...Normalguy, that was quite a statement. Maybe you are unaware of the fact that a bunch of crimes commited in this sleepy little burg get no coverage, at all. We've had several felony assaults and robberies, commited by "unknown" caucasian young people, which never grace the pages of this newspaper (for whatever reason, sometimes it is because the perps are "persons of interest" in, say, local burglaries, for example). Some of these people use weapons, too. Don't tunnel-vision in on the "criminal intelligence analyst" statistical data, to the exclusion of what is happening "on the ground". That will only lead you into making assumptions that are quite wrong, which is a very dangerous security measure for you to take, individually. "

BMI wrote on Apr 22, 2008 2:30 PM:

" Message to I_Hate_IL_The_South_Is_Much_Better: THEN LEAVE. "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Apr 22, 2008 11:16 AM:

" Dwarf: Okay, I stand corrected...to be fair though, "normalguys" post didn't come until afterward, horrible as it is. "

The Cats wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:33 AM:

" To Brookian...because it is not a comprehensive ban. They can go to any suburb or private sale (no checks at all) and buy guns. You gun nuts really make me laugh with your silly posts. "

Sometimes wrote on Apr 22, 2008 10:19 AM:

" Oh Jipsi you crack me up! Anytime I need a good laugh for the day I just go back and re-read one of your posts. Thanks! I (really) do (appreciate) the (good) laugh!! "

Cub Fan - Bud Man wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:22 AM:

" To: I_hate_IL,_the_south_is_much_better: Then what is keeping you from staying here if its so bad and you hate it here? I'm sorry to hear you hate Bloomington-Normal. Life is too short to live like this so I'd suggest you go where it makes you happy. Good luck! "

dwarf wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:14 AM:

" HR - If you want to see exactly what Townie and I were talking about, read normalguy's post.

Then tell Townie and I we're imagining racism. "

Cub Fan - Bud Man wrote on Apr 22, 2008 8:04 AM:

RVB wrote on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 AM:

" I've been looking at several apartment complexes trying to decide where I will move this summer when my lease expires; this certainly makes my decision easier by removing one choice. Between this stabbing and the bad ratings at apartmentratings.com, I'll stay away. "

I_hate_IL,_the_south_is_much_better... wrote on Apr 22, 2008 1:44 AM:

" "Racism, not is this town!" I think the people here are ridiculous! I can't wait to get back to the south where people aren't so judgemental and stereotypical. It's sad that "instances" can change one's mind about a whole entire race! Oh, I'm sorry..."them, they, those people!" I'm not even from Chicago and I can tell that people treat me and my family differently because of "stereo types" etc. I nor anyone in my family have ever received any type of govt. assistance but living here in B/N makes me feel as if I do because of the way people treat you....making absurd assumptions because of one's color....

That's all I'm saying..... "

jipsi wrote on Apr 22, 2008 1:05 AM:

" to flex remmington:
Your view of people who are NOT wealthy is sad. To call people "stiffers", worse, to call them SCUM, just because they don't have the 'extra' on hand to tip you with!
Becaue it's subsidized housing, KNOW that 99% of the people there are struggling just to put food on the table, and the cost of a pizza these days is a LUXURY, in itself, when one realizes that $20 to $30 CAN, if done carefully, purchase a week's worth of basics (ie: milk, bread, eggs, cereal, soup) for a small family.
You must be a teenager, or thereabouts, and not earning money yet that MUST go entirely to housing yourself. Low income families like to enjoy a pizza now and then, too, but often must do it in 'exchange' for something else (like, no movie rentals, or some such) AND it usually means skipping the tip for the driver.
Get smart. Suggest to your Manager that you be given more AFFLUENT routes every other shift, to help offset the "low tip" nights.
Another thing: you'd be surprised at how many people don't even KNOW proper tipping protocol and amounts in the first place! "

jipsi wrote on Apr 22, 2008 12:42 AM:

" to Sometimes: I post to an average of three to four topics a day, sometimes nothing new (topic-wise) for several days. My comment to Otis had more to do with 'where in the holy heck IS THAT, "over and over", in the Bible'? If you had been around, as you say you have, you would have noted (BESIDES where *I'm* at) that Otis has posted this same cryptic piece of karma on MANY other topics this week. My "what's up with that' was referring to THAT. He/She knew what I was referring to. So sorry you missed it. :-)

What you don't seem to remember is (so I must not be posting TOO much), I am a freelance WRITER, and THIS IS WHAT I DO (write, speechify, literate, etc.); reading and writing to the topics at the Pantagraph helps me keep my gears going. Like WORKING OUT at the gym you work at. Sort of. So to speak.

"

JohnDW wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:17 PM:

" We know who the criminals in this town are, yet the local government do nothing but assist them in their criminal activities. Statistically speaking of course, look at the crime rate in certain areas since poor Chicagoans came hear for their piece of the "Free American Pie". Go back home please!!! Half the addresses given by many of the perpetrators in many of these crimes are Chicago addresses anyway. Please just go home and continue to ruin that once beautiful city, but please do not ruin ours any further........ Wake up people and take charge if those who were put into office for our benefit will not!!!! and this is not a race thing but a class thing as in what many of these criminals are lacking. Leave!!!!!!! "

Mikeman wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:30 PM:

" The time is here for the Bloomington Police to setup satelite stations, one near Walmart and another on the eastside. Normal has a satelite station on or around Orlando. "

lynette08 wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:46 PM:

" Turnberry Square and Turnberry Village are not the same apartment complex. This incident happened at Turnberry Village. I've lived at Turnberry Village for 9 months, and this is the first incident that I have heard about. "

brookian wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:06 PM:

" Remember, yehitswarm, Chicago banned all guns. So, this couldn't have possibly happened in Chicago.

"

Lurg86 wrote on Apr 21, 2008 8:00 PM:

" To Metoo: for someone who is not on government assisted living you sure seem to have the 411 on everything. I don't give a damn what reports are forwarded to whoever the fact remains that vagabonds living on government assistance that is provided by the hard working people of this county continue to harbor, and abed felons in this new version of Sunnyside Housing Projects. Tell you what Metoo, how about you and the other people out there get jobs and pay your own way? That way the real workers of this community would not have a reason to post anything negative about you Chicago transplants that are just coming down here for a free ride? "

floyd wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:43 PM:

" One thing Bloomington/Normal doesn't realize. This bad publicity they get from people being attacked in the area where many shop will cause folks to go elsewhere. Remember the nice grocery store on main street Normal next to Orlando? Gone after an elderly man was beaten to death during a robbery. Now I used to shop at those locations on the west side of Bloomington Normal but in the past 6 months have migrated to Pekin,Morton or East Peoria since they are about equal distance from where I live. Many others west of Bloomington are doing the same. Your city loses out due to your crime. "

flex remmington wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:56 PM:

" All I know about Turnberry is when I go there, I dont get tipped to often. (I deliver pizzas) Not to say I have never been out that way and gotten a great tip, but for the most part, the place is filled with stiffers. The only reason this is relavant is that not tipping shows a lack of caring for your fellow man. Therefore, a neighborhood filled with stiffers is a neighborhood filled with scum. Just my opinion. "

bloomington girl wrote on Apr 21, 2008 5:58 PM:

" To set the record straight...this incident happened at Turberry VILLAGE Apartments, across from Farm and Fleet. Turnberry SQUARE apartments are over by Family Video off Cottage...two seperate apartment complex. I just moved from TB Square and never had a problem in the two years I lived there. They got new managment and "weeded" out all their bad tenents and apparently they all went to TB Village. "

yehitswarm wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:53 PM:

" hey did anyone see the article abouting Chicago having 32 shootings and 6 homicides this weekend! "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:51 PM:

" Big Brother: well said. "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:50 PM:

" Dwarf: I never said anyone was at fault for anything. I'm just saying there was no need to tell people not to bring up race, when nothing was even said about race - at that time. Although later, I figured Townie must have been referencing a different story that is similar in yesterday's/today's online paper. No biggie. Sheesh. "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:48 PM:

" Townie: Sorry!! The post you are referring to wasn't up when I made my comment! "

normalguy wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:46 PM:

" its people like townie why we will never be allowed to solve the increasing cimes in b/n. they refuse to recognize the majority of a people based on a few good people in that group. look at the headlines from the last few weeks. stabbing of a "wonderful" mother of 5.(no arrest) fight at the mall (gangs) pellet shooting. (gang related) murder on riley. just to name the ones the paper bothers to print. we have a race issue in this town and believing it happens in hawthorne is just ridiculous. blacks committ the majority of crimes and make up like 10% of this town. its absurd and the police go to race relations meetings to be told what to do to be nice to these people. "

MRS. wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:32 PM:

" I thought all government housing had at leat 1 police officer living in them? They get their rent free. This would be a good deal for a new police officer that doesn't start out making very good money. I was shocked to learn some county deputies (in some counties) start their ne officers out at around 12-15 dollars an hour. That isn't very good pay. "

BigBrother wrote on Apr 21, 2008 4:03 PM:

" A reputation is a hard thing to change, especially if it happens to be a bad one. Although the majority of the tenants of Turnberry Square apartments are good law abiding citizens there is barely a week go by that we do not read of violent crimes in this apartment complex. We read about 12 year olds out past 7:30 in the dark unsupervised on school nights throwing rocks at a band bus. We read about teens attacking and carjacking a shopper in the parking lot of a store adjacent to this complex. Should we think this apartment complex is just business as normal? I have not read about this type of crime any otherplace in town except Orlando Apts, and the tenants there say the same story. Not us. its just a couple of bad apples. Its up to the owners of these complexes to evict and refuse tenancy. They need to rid the complex of the bad apples and thiose tenants that harbor these bad apples permanately. "

dwarf wrote on Apr 21, 2008 3:34 PM:

" HR - So it's okay for Person A to make oblique racist comments, but as soon as Person B points out those comments are racist - it's all of a sudden Person B's fault for bringing up the subject of race?

That's just ridiculous. "

UK wrote on Apr 21, 2008 3:20 PM:

" Let's change the subject. Anyone feel an earthquake on Friday?? Hee hee hee!! "

BFM wrote on Apr 21, 2008 2:48 PM:

" Maybe all government housing should be built miles away from town so that the only way to get there is by bus or their own car. Put up cameras on and in every building too. Also, it's not a coincidence that the police visit government housing projects every single day. Put 2 and 2 together. "

c.a.t.s. wrote on Apr 21, 2008 2:46 PM:

" to :Townie here i agree with you 100% its all judy's fault she brought them down here and she built the Coliseum therefor it must be the Coliseum's fault "

BFM wrote on Apr 21, 2008 2:42 PM:

" To: windycity2,
Can you tell me how many people have actually been atacked and or murdered in Turnberry Square? For the size of that place, if it happens more than once a year, that's too much. There are a lot of areas of town where nothing like that happens. Riley Drive used to be a nice place too. Now look at that nieghborhood. Pass it off as not too bad today, tomorrow it might be you or a member of your family. "

Townie here... wrote on Apr 21, 2008 1:05 PM:

" HR-dwarf and I agree with you...so, let's drop it...okay? "

Townie here... wrote on Apr 21, 2008 1:04 PM:

" HR...I had something written up in response, but I don't want to perpetuate what I think is likely inevitable. I'm sure you saw my apology by now. Check back in a day when my post is long forgotten. "

vzbb wrote on Apr 21, 2008 12:08 PM:

" To sometimes: LOL "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:58 AM:

" Dwarf: Actually, people aren't blaming the Chicago people merely because they were born upstate, in a city that has lots of crime - which, of course it's going to, it's a huge city. People should really be blaming a certain ex-mayor who advertised our project housing to those in Chicago who were losing their housing. This ex-mayor did everything to advertise, short of putting fliers for discount public housing in their boxes of blunts. That's not to say that everyone living in public housing is a criminal, but the probability that their baby daddies are is pretty high. "

Townie here... wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:45 AM:

" And, I apologize as I've probably fueled the fire by my last two blogs.
"

Townie here... wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:44 AM:

" Oh Dwarf...I know and agree...but one can hope! Yeah wouldn't that be a turn of events that this will suddenly becomes a blog about SF and the coliseum (which is quite likely to happen).

That would make for an interesting headline...

Rise in crime due to SF and the Coliseum...?? "

HRPuffinstuff wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:40 AM:

" Townie: I don't know if you meant to say "them" or "theme", but either way it doesn't matter. Until your post, nothing was said about race. There was plenty said about Chicago and the West Side, but races of all kinds live in both places. You were the only one that brought up the subject of race - ironic since you want everyone to not bring race into this. Looks like you you were the first to rebel to your own fluffy request! "

metoo wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:36 AM:

" I live in Turnberry. It is a nice neighborhood... everyone that lives there is not from the projects in Chicago... everyone that lives there is not on goverment assisstance. Most of the residents are decent dpeople who pay their rent and take pride in their neighborhood. Background checks are done on every resident before moving in. This could and does happen anywhere. Especially places where a large number of people are living within close proximity to each other.
To:Lurg86- just for your information... individuals who receive goverment assisstance for their rent also receive a background check once a year... not too sure what convictions are not allowed, but it is done. Every time an arrest or police complaint happens at a government assisted residents home a notice is sent to the assisstance agency. Also if found to have a convicted felon living in their house they will lose their assisstance. To the best of my knowledge, convicted felons, at least drug related felonies, are not allowed to receive government assisstance so "most" of the people receiving the assisstance are law abiding citizens. "

dwarf wrote on Apr 21, 2008 11:05 AM:

" Oh, Townie - you know exactly how this will go. It's exactly like every single article about crime. Someone's bound to blame everything on those "people from Chicago" that cause all the crime in the city, on virtue of their having made the poor decision to be born upstate rather than downstate.

Seriously, after reading the comments section, you should realize by now that Bloomington was an idyllic paradise before State Farm, the Coliseum, and a mass Chicago Gangster Invasion! "

Townie here... wrote on Apr 21, 2008 10:11 AM:

" Once again, as the day wears on, I'm sure this is going to into a racist "them" and "they" blog...about how peaceful our town was before "they" got here. So sad...crime is crime. Doesn't matter where it takes place or the color of skin that a person is. PLEASE town...don't turn this into a hate blog about the West side of town.

"

Sometimes wrote on Apr 21, 2008 7:41 AM:

" Um Jipsi, could the comment "what goes around....." be in reference to the article, perhaps the people involved in the stabbing? I think you are taking that comment a little too personally. I see you blog on the pantagraph every single day, maybe these posts are getting a little too much in your head. You life seems consumed by these....perhaps you should take a breather! "

Moon Mullins wrote on Apr 21, 2008 6:12 AM:

" As bad as Cabrini Green was they had their own police precinct office in the projects. Aurora, IL has had gang problems for years and deals with their gang crime with a high visibilty in the affected neighborhoods. Chicago may or may not be exporting gang members, but blaming them is not going to accomplish anything. The Twin Cities would due well by talking to the Aurora Police Department. Elgin has also dealt with gang crime successfully. Gangs are considered family to their members. They need an alternative. Any ideas? "

jipsi wrote on Apr 20, 2008 10:36 PM:

" to Otis: I am a practicing Christian and although I am not overly "religious", I do try to stay spiritual. HOWEVER< your making a snippet -and cryptic- comment, using the Bible, OFFENDS me.
What was the "what goes around comes around" comment for, and tell me where it is (over and over) in the Bible (maybe I need a refresher)? "

Pinko Commie wrote on Apr 20, 2008 10:10 PM:

" They should just raze these projects and put up a new Walgreens. "

otis wrote on Apr 20, 2008 7:52 PM:

" the bible tells us over and over that what goes arond comes around "

Annie Oakley wrote on Apr 20, 2008 6:46 PM:

" seems that these incidences are becoming pretty regular. if it isn't a bat it is a knife. whether felons are the perps or not, doesn't seem to matter does it? all the regulations in the world will not stop the violence. the uk is working on banning kitchen knives now. is that what is in store for america because of the knife violence? "

brookian wrote on Apr 20, 2008 5:36 PM:

" We obviously need more knife control laws and Bat control laws. There isn't even a cool-off period for buying bats or knifes. Please, think of the children!!! Ban these deadly weapons!!!! "

blogger wrote on Apr 20, 2008 5:31 PM:

" This is going to be a wild summer on West side and South Bloomington apparently. "

Lurg86 wrote on Apr 20, 2008 5:02 PM:

" Promising for what? This is the new Sunnyside and make no mistake about it. This place has been the scene of murders, numous stabbings, beatings, rapes, and is the hottest place in town to buy drugs. This is where the Chicago transplants are placed in housing at a reduced rate. The cops are at this place more than they are at the court house. Anytime these government subsadized people have a violent act occur at their place they should be evicted immediately. This would cut out a lot of this drug dealing, gang banging violence. Oh and just for the record this was gang related as I heard this as it was happening on the scanner. "

windycity2 wrote on Apr 20, 2008 4:53 PM:

" Nothing at all wrong with Turnberry Village. I live here with my family and have had no problems at all. of course there are a few bad apples as there are in every neighborhood, or apartment complex. this incident happened at 5 a.m. in the morning. Possibly alcohol or drug related: this individual more than likely did not even reside here! "

Zeva wrote on Apr 20, 2008 3:17 PM:

" Look mom, no gun, just a bat or knife. "

jipsi wrote on Apr 20, 2008 2:31 PM:

" For those wondering "where" Valley View Circle is...(sigh). Turnberry Village Apartments.
What was once a promising looking neighborhood.
It happens EVERYWHERE, EVERY WEEKEND, now, it seems...
SOMEONE gets hurt... "

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