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" To:SDog...I was only saying, that at Fargo, those fans would show up for a worm wrestle if they had pads on. I have been around ISU football since the 60s and believe me, it isn't even close if the team sucks. And back in the day, we did not even have a thing called tailgate.....now many of the fans come for the beer and brats, not for the game. I agree, last year's team was a disappointment and they still drew okay, but to get a real judgement, track attendance for the next 3 years and then compare.....a lot of those tickets were sold before the season, when expectations were high. B/N has always been a bandwagon community when it comes to ISU sports and it will not change until they provide a consistant product on the court or on the field for several years like the Bison and Pinquins have done. "

" I've been a Redbird Football Fan my whole life. I sat in the row in front of Dr. and Mrs. Bone as a child, during the Bob Otolski years. Those were some bad years of Redbird Football :). Then came Jim Heacock. Wow...those weren't any better...But we didn't care if they won or lost, we were Redbird fans. Next was Todd Berry. I was in college, and my seats moved from the 50 to the Zoo. We made playoffs for the first time in history. And for the first time in my life, not only was it fun to be a Redbird Football Fan, but it was also fun to go to games in November! While preseason polls don't really matter, this shows a lack of respect for the program, and is a direct reflection on the current coaching staff. If we had continued in the tradition that Coach Berry started, we might be looking at becoming a BCS school...but at this point, finishing in the middle of the conference will be an accomplishment! It's sad to start a season where the only place you can go is up! "

" Home Plate - do you really think it is the fans fault? Last year's woeful team still had a high % of capacity for seats filled. Much better than the basketball team. I will agree with you that the stadium needs updating, but come on...it's not the bandwagon fans that are the problem. You have an ill prepared team lose to Drake and that's a problem no matter where you play. "

" People have to realize that in Fargo, ND, those people eat and breath football and pour into the Fargo Dome to follow their team, no matter how good or bad they are. At ISU, this community only comes out when the team wins a few games at the beginning of the year. Until ISU gets away from the bandwagon fans that this community provides, it will remain a bottom dweller. Not all about Denver, not all about talent, not all about desire, sometimes it has to do with the support provided from a community of doubters. "

" Denver should have been gone in January. He does not bring in the recruits this team needs and has really sloppy play calling by himself and his o-cor. The team has only been consistant at one thing: not being prepared.

If ISU wants a real team in here, they have to build a new stadium and get a new coach. Their stadium is junk and their coach is even worse. "

" there is a clause in Denver's contract for an early buyout option after this year. I think it is playoffs or bust for Denver @ ISU "

" to go state... I hope u are being sarcastic.. cause that may be the goofiest statement I have ever heard. Denver has done a great job.. well prove it ok. He is getting a free pass and should be dismissed. No different than if a person was not doing there job they would be dismissed. I cant figure it out. ISU will be lucky to win 4 games this year! its tooo bad but its the truth. "

" Denver is the best coach in the history of this program. True, last year was disappointing, the MSU game was completely unacceptable, but he has done great things here and deserves to stay as long as he wants to coach. "

" Preseason Rankings mean nothing. Ranking are made by analysts that never stepped on a field, or, understand what talent & heart is, when it comes to how a team plays. (ex): The 1984 Hurricanes weren't picked to be in the top #25 at the beginning of the year. 4 Months later, they kicked Nebraskas butts in the Orange Bowl for the National Championship. Go State. Get after it! "

" This is actually good news. Being picked at the bottom means there's an opportunity to go up. Which will happen, if they manage to perform on the field this year. Maybe this poll will put their opponents to sleep. And the Redbirds will have a banner year. "

" Ooops I meant ND St. would move up to the FBS when given the chance. Those dang acronyms! "

" What's great about ND St. is that they will not probably be in the conference that long. The second they get a chance to move up to FCS they will be gone. This is just a stepping stone for them. "

" Why would anybody in their right mind prefer to be picked at the bottom? I'd rather be perceived by my peers at an elite team instead of the league doormat. "

" Key injury to any one of the favorites changes the out come of the season. The Birds are better then this seeding. Personally, I would prefer to be picked at the bottom. Less pressure on the players to play. "

" Pre-season polls mean nothing. The games still have to be played and won and lost. "

" Terrible news. But, I think we all realized that this wouldnt be a good year. But then again, we started last season 7th in the country and look what happened. I dont put much stock into these polls. "