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let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 9, 2008 11:17 PM:

" Palin is a tax raising, big spending liberal who sought pork from the federal government, raised taxes, created huge amounts of debt as mayor and governor, had to borrow to keep Alaska's state government going, and tried to censor books in a public library such as titles by Mark Twain. She basically is an idiot and totally incompetent. "

janmc wrote on Sep 8, 2008 1:39 PM:

" People, People, People. If you supported Hilary not just because she was a female but because you believe as she does that women should have the "RIGHT to choose", or because you believe in equal rights for our GLBT brothers and sisters, or because no one should have to lose their home because they can't afford medical insurance or pay for a catastrophic illness, or that the right to bare arms doesn't apply to ownership of oozies and AK47s, then how can women in good conscience be on the side of Sarah Palin. Wake up! She's as right wing as they come. I'm a woman who will NOT squander my one vote supporting a woman who's values do not mirror my own. "

VoteRespnsbly08 wrote on Sep 7, 2008 3:08 PM:

" RushOReily! Wonderfully said! Yes Obama thought Hillary would out shine him
now he begs for help...Guess what Messiah Lord Obama..Sarah Outshines You!

Go Sarah! So girl go! "

VoteRespnsbly08 wrote on Sep 7, 2008 3:01 PM:

" cats55ire
You bet your A--- we are...becasue she was more qualified that Risky Obama!
She did not loose in populr votes..she lost with the delegates, super delegates!
So why don't we just forget voting and let them decide our future...If you wine and dine them and give them more money they vote for you and that is what Risky Obama did!
Obama now is crying out for Help from Hillary so saying Clinton Who?????
Thats who!!!!!!!! "

VoteRespnsbly08 wrote on Sep 7, 2008 2:57 PM:

" I found this blogg which gave me even more of a reason as a Dem to not support Obama-
Sarah Palin did not vote to deny children who survived abortion the right to live. Congressional hearings were held with testimony from nurses who reported there were babies that survived abortion. These hearings were held to determine legislation for the care of these infants. Guess who, and it wasn't Sarah Palin, voted to let these children - viable and born alive, not be given medical care? Guess who said it was OK by voting against any initiative to maintain their life, even after being born, to leave that child on a dirty clothes basket until it no longer lived?

Monstrous infanticide - Is that what you people are calling enlightened and change? You are right about that - It takes a rare individual to be able to be OK with that. This is what you people see as wise? Sickening "

VoteRespnsbly08 wrote on Sep 7, 2008 2:55 PM:

" To The Obamamaniacs
I am also a Hillary die hard who will not be voting for Obama...It's a matter of trust and I never did and never will trust Obama- After putting down and advocating disrespect for Hillary, after putting his elitis nose up in the air and truly encouraging the disrespect..Now he has to bring that nose right where it belongs down crying for help. Hillary has shown true to herself and her believes but enough is enough-Obama does not deserve her support-but as always a woman of character has looked beyond...I am sorry to say I just can't do it...for the first in my life I will not be voting democrat.... I just don't trust Obama "

I am Squidward wrote on Sep 7, 2008 5:41 AM:

" He's been "the executive of a beautifully run campaign?" Oh, my. How to poke fun at that one? Let me count the ways... "

tlc wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:56 PM:

" I have more confidence in Obama's experience and judgment than I've ever had in a candidate. He wrote and sponsored over 800 bills in the state legislature, passed ethics reform, veteran's benefits and much more. He's been the executive of a beautifully run campaign. I've read his books and followed him since I met him 4 years ago. He is always true to his principles, unlike McCain who stabbed his long-time friend John Kerry in the back a couple years ago, cheated on his wife. Palin actually took those earmarks for the bridge, left her city $19 million in debt. It's easy to be popular when your state has oil revenue to pass out. Obama served on a board with Ayers and made a mistake with Rezko. McCain's campaign is run by lobbyists and Bush people. I'm much more concerned about that. I know some people whose ethics aren't what I approve of, too. That doesn't make me one of them. . "

Two Cents wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:47 PM:

" To tlc: Do you have confidence in Obama as Commander in Chief? He seems to be even less experienced than Sarah Palin. That scares me. Obama has some connections with some shady people that concern me too. "

bummer wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:17 PM:

" TLC I bet Ted Sorenson and Jon Favreau would disagree with you. All politicians have a team of people working for them. I hate to break it to you, but most people have the ability to think, not just obama. I am not so sure any politician actually tells the truth. Most just want to tell you what you want to hear. "

tlc wrote on Sep 6, 2008 2:14 PM:

" To Two Cents - I can only speak for myself, but the reason I'm worried about Sarah Palin's inexperience, dishonesty and religious extremism is that I'm afraid they could win and she'd be in charge of my country. I'd rather John McCain had chosen a competent running mate. "

Two Cents wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:40 PM:

" It is kind of funny the way Dems and media are going on and on about Sarah Palin being a working mom with 5 kids, how inexperienced she is, and how she is so unqualified for the VP position. If you really feel that way, why do you feel the need to pound it inot the ground......you should be so happy that is the case and feel glad that McCain has picked such a person as his runnig mate. BUT, obviously that is not the case. Sarah Palin has the Dem. party kinda in a panic and off guard, I think. I also think McCain was expected to pick the same ole kind of "white typical conservative" that would not be thought of a a challenge for Obama. So I'm sure it is a surprise that a strong, confident, qualified, smart everyday kind of WOMEN was chosen to be his running mate. I love it and expect this to be a very interesting and competitive race for the office. "

Abigail wrote on Sep 6, 2008 11:57 AM:

" Meh, I think you are fooling yourself if you think women voters weren't supporting Hillary because she was a women. Of course, many of them were, in the same way the majority of black voters are supporting Obama because he is black. The angry, militant feminism of Ms. Steinem has been replaced by a new feminism. Women can have husbands, families, careers and be happy. They can build their own careers. Sarah Palin shows this more so than Hillary Clinton, and I think that will appeal to some younger voters. "

thoughts a million wrote on Sep 6, 2008 10:53 AM:

" History has shown that voters choose Presidents based on where they stand with the issues and their party affiliate. VP candidates are just window dressing. "

Citizen#9 wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:34 AM:

" Are there really women out there who are so embittered over the fact that Hillary Clinton lost the nomination that they'd vote for McCain just to spite Obama? "

Meh wrote on Sep 6, 2008 9:06 AM:

" I am Squidward, you have hit the nail on the head. Clinton voters aren't flocking to Palin because she's a conservative whereas Clinton is liberal. Of course, many Republicans just won't get this, thinking the Clinton appeal was only about gender.

miskaffon, socialism is already rampant in our country. Those horrible institutions like the police, the fire department, city water, public schools and Universities, our military, food inspectors, and all the rest. All evil, evil evil! I yearn for a time when none of those existed. "

ktlin wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:48 AM:

" I just don't get it. Why do all you people with "supposed values" keep calling Obama names like Messiah, Lord, the appointed one and say he is coming down from heaven? Do you not think God is listening and watching? If not you are showing him what you aren't, regardless of how many values you profess to have. It is time like these that the real person shows up. I must admit I have been rather flabbergasted as some who professed to be so caring to be quite the opposite. And, for some reason, people think strong women have to screech loudly and be smug and sarcastic. Actually that turns some men and women off. I still like Obama. And McCain even less. So his tantrum and disregard for his party didn't work with me. "

Quazy wrote on Sep 6, 2008 8:25 AM:

" Hey No Longer Towny, did you know that the teleprompter did not stop rolling during her speach and she had to go off the cuff on her talking points. Obama would have been certain to offend someone in small town America if he was allowed to speak his mind. "

Pontiac resident wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:58 AM:

" I think Palin will have more and more people turn to her in the near future because she is a fresh face in politics and not already tainted by party conformity. I think she's the change the democrats were promising and couldn't define or describe? For too long what's left of the middle class hasn't had a voice in Washington, now we will have that again.
All the pollsters don't listen to the average people, they get paid by big business and those in power, and pundits write what they want you to think. Trying to get you to choose the most popular, in their view. "

athoughtfromme wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:58 AM:

" Steinem says "McCain's running mate is seriously underqualified", & does she think Obama is qualified????? I like Palin's down to earth attitude, & to me she is a breath of fresh air! Go Sarah!!!! "

adonis wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:39 AM:

" Ya, I can see how it would be much better for women if the first female president got elected because she was to be the wife of a former president. That sure screams female empowerment to me. "

tlc wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:29 AM:

" to farmersdaught - Yes, Obama does write his speeches. He wrote the big one that made us notice him in 2004 and he wrote his acceptance speech. Obama wrote his own books, too. That's because he thinks. Something any Hillary voter who would go vote for McCain couldn't possibly be doing. If Palin's speech, written by a Bush speechwriter, impressed you, remember - that's how we got Bush. Her speech was packed with lies. Do your homework! Wouldn't it be great to have a president who's smarter than most of the Harvard Law School? Who would make us proud instead of ashamed? C'mon, do your homework, people. "

jmsaathoff wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:11 AM:

" Let's see how people feel about Ms. Palin after the next 50+ days. Maybe more will like her, but let's see how she handles a debate or god forbid, an actual interview where she doesn't have speechwriters preparing her every word. Let's hear where she stands on positions that people are interested in. The conventions (both Dem and Repub) are an orgy for stroking one's egos and making everyone sound good. "

bushIQis6 wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:04 AM:

" ofc313: huh? what country are you from? ever heard of veto power? ever wonder why Bush had to use emergency appropriation for war funding to bypass Congressional scrutiny? you want to be owned by a communist country? how stupid can the republicans be? "

bushIQis6 wrote on Sep 6, 2008 7:02 AM:

" duh.... as the repubs said, "this election is not about issues, it's about personalities". Sarah read a script written for her by a Bushie and she sounded smart and tough. so i'm going to vote for her because i want more unjustified wars and pillaging of other countries looking for imaginary weapons of mass destruction. i also think it's a good idea to have a communist country paying for our wars. yup, that's why i'm going to vote repub - who cares if all other countries are buying iup the u.s., at least the party is "pro life" (except when we're killing other people in other countries). "

iheartpolls wrote on Sep 6, 2008 6:45 AM:

" If it is 8-10 ( Which I doubt is true- But makes the Libs feel better) then that would be over 3.5 million. 3.5 million Democrats will switch to a republican candidate because the Libs were to proud to listen to woman this voting year. Another thing this article has not mentioned is the fact that Clinton herself has turned down the request by Obama to bash Sarah Palin. She said she will campaign for him , but will not personally attack her. I think the Liberals underestimated the power of woman and will pay for it dearly. My wife will be voting McCain/ Palin after being on the fence. And I will proudly being voting for the same ticket right beside her. "

Crybaby wrote on Sep 6, 2008 6:41 AM:

" Reading these postings, I have to agree. Sarah is 'atractive'. In the sense that Cotton Candy ( or fairy floss, as our British cousins say) is 'attractive'. CC also comes in a pretty color. Actually, several colors. It's fun to watch it being made. In a machine. The more frivolous among us consider it imperative to have some at the Circus. Any Circus. The real frisson comes when we take a big bite. Sadly, only to quickly experience the fairy floss evaporating in our mouths. Mencken said that "Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard." Needless to say, we seldom disappoint ourselves in that regard. Since otherwise fairly intelligent folks are always being fooled by appearances. Preferring to believe what politicians say. As opposed to what they do. Or say they did. Or, more importantly, what their mob of sycophants and 'handlers', and those who shill for them, say they did. Sarah may be a fine Governor. Probably just as good as was our beloved President. And with that high praise, all I can say is: continue to vote your CC sweet tooth. "

moon mullins wrote on Sep 6, 2008 5:58 AM:

" To ofc313: I agree with you whole heartedly. Too much emphasis is put on the presidential race. There are actually some who vote only in presidential elections. Our legislators are far more critical and approachable. Many "voters" can't even name theirs. Also, how many of these bloggers even vote at all? I use to work with a man who would often talk politics but refused to vote at all. I'd tell him to keep quiet until he'd vote. "

kz17 wrote on Sep 6, 2008 4:50 AM:

" Does no one get that she would like to promote sport hunting by manipulating populations of wolves and polar bears(through aerial hunting), that she would rather mining companies have profit above what toxins might ruin salmon fishing. All that talk about how she doesn't want earmarks is only so long as she has to help pay for them. Look at the bigger picture people and not at the superficial. I guess these are the people that helped Bush get into the White House for another four years and made all our lives difficult. Isn't it ironic that she is just another wolf in sheep's clothing just like Rove's other puppet. "

answerman wrote on Sep 6, 2008 1:17 AM:

" She bashed the "good ole boy network" and the audience hesitated ever so briefly, realizing that many of them were.

She must have good healthcare, 5 children and a down syndrome child, expensive medical bills, oh no wait, she has a government job, automatic best healthcare available. Not available to your average Joe and Josephine.

Those Alaskan nights are long, but the Abstinence only program "keeps trudging across the tundra, mile after mile, just trudging across the tundra, till you come to the church of Saint Alfonso." (quote, Frank Zappa)

Has pandering come across anyone's mind? I have to admit, she is likable. Sarah may be the new wave for the future of the Women's movement, strong, but still knows her place (sarcasm). "

dwarf wrote on Sep 6, 2008 12:00 AM:

" I have to say, between the Republican party becoming the new stalwart defenders of political correctness, becoming watchdogs for sexism, acceptance of teen pregnancy, and commitment to keeping private family matters private and out of the media spotlight... Well, it warms my heart a little bit.

Welcome, Republicans, to our decade and to an extra helping of common decency. I'm glad you could join us Democrats over here. "

dman wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:46 PM:

" I found one.,,,my wife.
Hillary backer who now will vote for McCain and "that strong woman", as she says.
sorry AP..you and your liberal bias lose again "

dman wrote on Sep 5, 2008 11:44 PM:

" Come on AP..can we get more liberally skewed with this story.
an ABC poll? thats just more liberal skew.
I contend that there is NO WAY, you can accurately use the word MOST in the headline of that article..More Liberal BS from a party that Sarah Palin has apparently got running scared. "

ambr1 wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:30 PM:

" I was a Clinton backer, and there is NO WAY I will go to the other side. Now my vote is for Obama! "

ofc313 wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:17 PM:

" I am a rather dedicated Catholic Republican and am quite impressed with the Sarah Palin pick for VP. I am very unhappy with the way our Presidents are elected. It is too easy to manipulate the current electoral votes. I would definitly prerfer a popular vote so every voice is heard regardless of political affiliation. I am also disturbed of why no one makes a big deal about the Senetors and Represenatives. The House and the Senate is truly where the power lies, Where our legislation is made and yes where the power lies to send us to war. Sarah Palin will make a great addition to DC but we need to make a change in the House and Senate where we can have a happy balance of all parties where legislation can be passed and not just stalled due to egos and personal agendas. "

buckeye wrote on Sep 5, 2008 10:04 PM:

" wow 2 teths of 18 million votes is 3,600,000 enough to give this election to mccain "

farmersdaught13 wrote on Sep 5, 2008 9:25 PM:

" nolongertowny...and Nobama writes his own speaches? Puh-lease "

Rush O'Riley wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:48 PM:

" The Messiah is scared that Sarha Palin is more popular the Lord Barrack can't handle it. So all the drive bys in the news media are doing what they can to try to make mountians out of molehills, we know more about Sarah Palin in just ont week then we know about ther Messiah Lord Barrack in 19 months, heaven forbid that the anointed one should get out done, his racist ego can't handle it. All I can say is YOU GO GIRL. "

Common Sense wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:36 PM:

" I think Sarah Palin will make an EXCELLENT vice president. They have my vote! "

dwarf wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:24 PM:

" Well, albundy54, the several people you talked to are certainly a more accurate picture of the nation than actual, scientifically-conducted polls. They should have skipped all the information gathering and gone straight to you. "

stormylady wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:17 PM:

" To Ms. Steinem through associated press who states she hasn't met one single human being who was for Hilary, that now will vote for McCain with or without Ms. Palin: Darlin I thought I was out of the loop but you make me feel extremely visible. If you want to meet a Hilary supporter who is now going to vote McCain because of Ms. Palin, give me a call and perhaps we can do lunch in the backwoods of Pontiac Illinois. I am sure you would be surprised at how many people I know that plan to vote the same way... "

NoLongerTowny wrote on Sep 5, 2008 8:09 PM:

" hate to brea it to ya miskaffon, but those words and points in her speach aren't hers, they were written by someone else and she just did a good job reciting them. Lets see how she does in the debates when the lines aren't spelled out for her. "

NoLongerTowny wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:55 PM:

miskaffon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:34 PM:

" And PLEASE don't forget; there are more than 2 parties. Really, there are. Honest. Please try looking at them, and think about the fact that not every single thing we do needs a law to accompany it. Germany did that in the 1930s, and where did that maneuver leave the rest of the world?? Um, anybody need a reminder? "

miskaffon wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:30 PM:

" Socialism is not a good thing for the USA. Obama, that's all he thinks about is how to bring Socialism to this country to get ultimate power for the Demo-Socialist party. EW! I'm not a big fan of McCain's either, but Palin's ideas for this country; removing the "good ole-boy" network of greed and corruption, keeping freedoms so hard-fought for including the right to bear arms and think for yourself (so unlike her current White House partners!), keeping government OUT of every day American life....almost all the points she made in her speech make me hope she will be THE presidential candidate in the next election- it would be good for this country. Otherwise, I'll stay with the Libertarians, and keep away from the same-old "control every part of every single action of every citizen of this country" status that both major parties can't wait to attain... "

I am Squidward wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:28 PM:

" Yawn. Maybe one day we'll all actually cast our vote based upon silly things like POLICY. I like Sarah "Barracuda." Why? She's a CONSERVATIVE. If Obama was a conservative, I'd vote for him. But he's not. He's a raging socialist. Black, white, male, female... only really stupid people care about those things. "

albundy54 wrote on Sep 5, 2008 7:09 PM:

" I am wondering how many women this reporter had to talk to in order to find one she could quote with the rhetoric? I know of many women voters who were voting for Hilary and after her being snubbed by the democrats in favor of Biden who were going to either boycott the election or vote McCain, before he announced Palin his VP. Now they say it is McCain all the way. This only goes to show how genuinely shook up the mainstream media is at having Palin as the republican VP choice. It is killing them as well as the dems chances for a victory in November. "

cats55ire wrote on Sep 5, 2008 6:23 PM:

" Clinton Who?????

Could it be that Clinton backers are just mad because Hilliary didn't get the nomination? Dah . . . "

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