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WASHINGTON, D.C. -- The Bush administration is asking Congress to let the government buy $700 billion in toxic mortgages in the largest financial bailout since the Great Depression, according to a draft of the plan obtained Saturday by The Associated Press. | Graphic | Video | Short-selling ban | Candidates cautious

The plan would give the government broad power to buy the bad debt of any U.S. financial institution for the next two years. It would raise the statutory limit on the national debt from $10.6 trillion to $11.3 trillion to make room for the massive rescue. The proposal does not specify what the government would get in return from financial companies for the federal assistance.

"We're going to work with Congress to get a bill done quickly," President Bush said at the White House. Without discussing details of the plan, he said, "This is a big package because it was a big problem."

The White House and congressional leaders hoped the developing legislation could pass as early as next week.

Administration officials and members of Congress were to negotiate throughout the weekend. The plan is designed to let faltering financial institutions unload their distressed mortgage-related assets on the government, and in turn the taxpayer, in a bid to avoid dire economic consequences.

Bush said he worried the financial troubles "could ripple throughout" the economy and affect average citizens. "The risk of doing nothing far outweighs the risk of the package, and over time we're going to get a lot of the money back."

He added, "People are beginning to doubt our system, people were losing confidence and I understand it's important to have confidence in our financial system."

"In my judgment, based upon the advice of a lot of people who know how markets work, this problem wasn't going to be contained to just the financial community," the president said. He said he was concerned about "Main Street" and that what happens on "Wall Street" affects "Main Street."

Sen. Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., called the proposal "a good foundation," but raised concerns it "includes no visible protection for taxpayers or homeowners."

Democrats are insisting the rescue include mortgage help to let struggling homeowners avoid foreclosures. They also are also considering attaching additional middle-class assistance to the legislation despite a request from Bush to avoid adding controversial items that could delay action. An expansion of jobless benefits was one possibility.

Asked about the chances of adding such items, Bush sidestepped the question, saying only that now was not the time for political posturing. "The cleaner the better," he said about legislation he hopes Congress sends back to him at the White House.

If passed by Congress, the plan would give the Treasury secretary broad power to buy and sell the mortgage-related investments without any additional involvement by lawmakers. The proposal, however, would require that the congressional committees with oversight on budget, tax and financial services issues be briefed within three months of the government's first use of the rescue power, and every six months after that.

While the proposal contains no requirement that the government receive anything from banks in return for unloading their bad assets, it would allow the Treasury Department to designate financial institutions as "agents of the government," and mandate that they perform any "reasonable duties" that might entail.

In a briefing to lawmakers Friday, Paulson and Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke painted a grave picture of an economy on the edge of a major recession and telling them that action was urgent and imperative.

In a session with House Democrats, they described a plan where the government would in essence set up reverse auctions, putting up money for a class of distressed assets - such as loans that are delinquent but not in default - and financial institutions would compete for how little they would accept for the investments, said Rep. Brad Sherman, D-Calif., who participated in the conference call.

"You give them good cash; they give you the worst of the worst," Sherman said. A critic of the plan, he complained that Bush and his economic advisers were trying to panic lawmakers into rubber-stamping it.

Paulson said the new troubled-asset relief program must be large enough to have the necessary impact while protecting taxpayers as much as possible.

"I am convinced that this bold approach will cost American families far less than the alternative - a continuing series of financial institution failures and frozen credit markets unable to fund economic expansion," Paulson said. "The financial security of all Americans ... depends on our ability to restore our financial institutions to a sound footing."

Administration officials hoped the rescue plan could be finalized this weekend, to lend calm to Monday morning's market openings, said Keith Hennessey, the director of the president's economic council. The goal is to have something passed by Congress by the end of next week, when lawmakers recess for the elections.




Details of the rescue proposal



The Bush administration is asking Congress for $700 billion to buy up troubled mortgage-related assets from U.S. financial institutions. According to a draft obtained Saturday by The Associated Press, the proposal would:

• Give the treasury secretary broad authority to buy up to $700 billion in mortgage-related assets from any financial institution in the United States.

• Raise the $10.6 trillion statutory limit on the national debt to $11.3 trillion.

• Allow the treasury secretary to buy, hold and sell the assets in any way he sees fit. That includes the ability to go outside normal government contracting practices to hire private companies to manage them.

• Give the government power to designate financial institutions as "financial agents of the government" and require them to carry out any "reasonable duties" that entails.

• Require the government to report to congressional budget, tax-writing and financial services committees within three months of using the authority and every six months thereafter.

• Instruct the treasury secretary to consider both providing market stability and protecting taxpayers in using the bailout power.

• Expire two years after enactment.



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420 wrote on Oct 3, 2008 7:20 PM:

" This is all bull. The entire world needs the market to fall to help prices of goods and services to stabilize and or fall as the cost of living is now a burden on the working mans wage. The government is creating an even bigger problem by continuing to expand inflation beyond the capacity our nation can with stand. "

OGS wrote on Oct 3, 2008 4:58 AM:

" Only 5-6 weeks ago Paulson and Bernanke said the economy was okay. The a couple weeks ago, they admitted that the economy was out of control. Now they want us to trust Paulson! Can't trust an obvious liar. "

OGS wrote on Oct 3, 2008 3:37 AM:

" Abolish the Feral Reserve and print our own money. We are all slaves to the Fed. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Oct 2, 2008 3:44 PM:

" pia girl wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:55 PM:
" Here's a novel idea ... how about we regulate the financial industry, like it is in just about every other country in the world."

The republicans TRIED to regulate it in 2005 but the democrats shot it down where the bill never made it far enough to get voted on. The DEMOCRATS said there was nothing wrong and there was nothing to worry about and everything with Fannie & Freddie were just fine! Well look at it now! The republics seen this coming and tried to do something about it! Even OBAMA was against the regulations! So if you want to see more disasters like this just vote for Obama because you WILL get your wish! "

pia girl wrote on Oct 1, 2008 6:55 PM:

" Here's a novel idea ... how about we regulate the financial industry, like it is in just about every other country in the world.

The banks would have had to be accountable a LONG time ago, and we wouldn't be in the mess we are in.

And maybe if there were no tax break for mortgage interest, we would have more people buying houses that they can afford, rather gargantuan houses that they will never be able to pay off. "

MM wrote on Oct 1, 2008 3:11 PM:

" Just a suggestion. Why don't we quit paying retired senators, congresspeople & Presidents their salaries & make them live off of social security & savings like everyone else? Seriously, can you name any other job where you can vote yourself a pay raise, then retire & live off your salary for the rest of your life as well as be provided security protection at someone else's (our) expense? The money we save from paying all of them could then be put back into the budget to maybe help with at least some of the nation's debt. Oh, wait, I forgot, congress (both parties)want to take the hard earned money we have for our futures, NOT their big-figure future incomes (that again, we pay) to pay for a problem THEY not only let happen but let get out of control. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Oct 1, 2008 1:28 PM:

" let's be reasonable

What about Obama's plan being in the toilet don't you understand??? With the current crisis his plan his pretty much DEAD! That makes him a candidate without a plan!

If he even tried to move forward with his plan now it would tripple the debt Bush added! "

The Cat wrote on Oct 1, 2008 12:59 PM:

" FTC: (un)reasonable doesn’t even understand the sun rises in the East and sets in the West so don’t expect (un)reasonable to understand truth and facts that conflicts with un’s warped world view that everything bad is Republican and everything good is “progressive” Donkey. "

Patriot wrote on Oct 1, 2008 7:38 AM:

" Usually, when investors make questionable investments they lose their shirts. Now huge financial institutions have done this and they lost big. But what does socialists Bush, McCain, Obama and Pelosi want? They want to steal money from the taxpayer to save these crooks. Doesn't that make them crooks. Most of you Dems and Repubs are so stupid that I wonder if you can do two things in the bathroom at one time. hee...hee... "

let's be reasonable wrote on Oct 1, 2008 2:02 AM:

" "If Obama is elected you will find out what a real socialist is!"

Really. It CAN'T be worse than what Georgie has done. Doubling the national deficit, socialist intervention in markets. You have to be kidding to suggest that Senator Obama can beat Bush and his socialist habits. LOL. BTW, you are not up on how Obama plans to lower taxes and reorganize spending so that the federal budget is balanced. When was the last time a republican president submitted a balanced budget? Name the last President that balanced the budget. Can you? I will help, the name starts with a "C". NOT "B" or "R". Name the President who watched the deficit explode the most in U.S. history. Hint. Starts with a "B". Name the President with the lower approval rating in history. Same "B". LOL in Nov. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 30, 2008 12:04 PM:

" Patriot

Just the democrats kept saying there wasn't a problem with Fannie & Freddie since republicans have been telling this would happen since 2003. Then in 2005 they shot down a bill supported by McCain that would have prevented this mess!

Now that it has happened they are still in denial and want to shift the blame on Bush. How anyone can vote for these idiots in good conscience is beyond on me. "

Patriot wrote on Sep 29, 2008 8:52 AM:

" Don't most of you know there is nothing wrong with our economy and we are not in a recession. President Bush has been telling us this for years. Only in the past two weeks has he doubted himself. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 29, 2008 8:49 AM:

" let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 29, 2008 12:21 AM:
" If you want to read pure BS:"

You can live in all the denial you want. The facts are there plain as day. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 29, 2008 8:47 AM:

" let's be reasonable

If Obama is elected you will find out what a real socialist is! In the debate when he was asked what programs of his he plans to cut to pay for this bail out he skirted around from answering that and just said he intends to SPEND SPEND SPEND!

You would have to have been in some type of hypnotic state of mind to have missed that! "

let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 29, 2008 12:26 AM:

" As a conservative democrat why should the country become even more socialistic because we happen to have a socialistic president who loves to spend, borrow and spend, and now wants government to use trillions of tax dollars to bail out greedy republican pigs on Wall Street.? "

let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 29, 2008 12:21 AM:

" If you want to read pure BS:

"...entire crisis is caused by the democrats because of their failed federal programs they started! Its all out there for all to see and the evidence is over whelming!" "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 28, 2008 10:56 PM:

" Just google "Community Reinvestment Act" and that will give you planty to start with. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 28, 2008 10:52 PM:

" let's be reasonable

You obviously do not understand the true cause behind this crisis because if you even had the slightest clue you would have done a little research on this and found out this entire crisis is caused by the democrats because of their failed federal programs they started! Its all out there for all to see and the evidence is over whelming! "

excuseme wrote on Sep 28, 2008 6:38 PM:

" Please.....everyone relax. Bush is going to fix this before he leaves office. At least 25% think so and the rest just need to trust in Dubya. "

let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 28, 2008 4:08 PM:

" "They all support a bailout. Many just don't support the bailout in its current form. They know they have to do something fast or this country is going to see the worst depression ever! And it will take decades to recover IF it can ever recover!"

Fine. The republicans have not had their financial act together ever. Let them stew in their own depression. Let those banks fail. I am fine with it. Instead they can divvy up the 700 billion among the citizenry and let folks use the money to pay their own mortgage down or buy property. It would immediately spur the economy. Wall Street should have to work out their problems since they created them along with the pig republicans and their lax regulations. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 28, 2008 2:36 PM:

" Patriot,

It was the CEO's that caused this. It was the government that caused this with their federal programs.

If you want to know what happened with this wall street mess and the people behind this there is a video on youtube that provides good facts and where you can look them up and verify them.

Go to youtube and search:

"Burning Down The House: What Caused Our Economic Crisis?" "

Patriot wrote on Sep 28, 2008 10:43 AM:

" Why aren't the CEOs and CFOs held responsible in all of these financial institutions and have all their assets seized and then have them thrown in prison? If fact, we should throw their spouses, children, grandchildren and great grandchildren thrown in servitude because if they get the $700 billion bailout, our descendents will be slaves to the debt for generations. "

boblambo wrote on Sep 26, 2008 12:50 PM:

" Forget my last post....
LOL...my wife informed me that the calculation decimal was off. Nice idea except it would take 100 Trillion to pull it off. "

boblambo wrote on Sep 26, 2008 12:04 PM:

" I received an interesting email. Why not a bottoms up rescue. Take 100-250 billion and give each adult 18 years and over an equal share. The $1000 dollar stimulus was just a pacifier to keep us happy. Think of all the debt that would be paid down honestly. It would create a massive surge in new home sales, car sales etc. Pay a percentage back in taxes. It is an interesting idea to consider. The junk mortgage debt would be rescinded hospital bills would be paid, college loans would be paid etc etc etc...I think it is so simple it would work. It would reset our economy... "

suboo wrote on Sep 26, 2008 2:49 AM:

" "Nevada State Bank, which is based in Las Vegas, has agreed to assume the insured deposits. The transaction did not include about $700 million in volatile, high-cost insured funds called brokered deposits

The official FDIC press release can be seen here. Former director Andrew McCain, son of presidential candidate John McCain, resigned from the board in July.

In July, Silver State announced the resignation of Andrew McCain as a director of the bank. McCain, who had served on the audit committee and was a director for five months, is the son of Republican presidential nominee John McCain. A call to the campaign’s press line wasn’t immediately returned".

I guess those McCain men aren't meant to run banks, in this case it was Silver State in Henderson, NV. Not quite as big as Daddy's Keating 5 savings and loans. "

LOL Liberal (:-D) wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:09 PM:

" Whatever happened to substance, integrity and ethics? "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:33 PM:

" let's be reasonable

They all support a bailout. Many just don't support the bailout in its current form. They know they have to do something fast or this country is going to see the worst depression ever! And it will take decades to recover IF it can ever recover! "

OGS wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:39 PM:

" BUSH & Company are globalists and care not about this country except to rape and pillage as much money and assets as possible as soon as possible! "

let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 25, 2008 11:17 AM:

" FTC: If Bush were really a conservative he would not support the bailout. Again, he is for it to rescue the greedy pig republicans on Wall Street that are his best friends. Socialism for republicans is fine as long as it benefits the wealthy. Both Bushes and Reagan have dumped so much debt on this country that it will be impossible to recover. Not one of them could balance their checkbook if they were paid to do so. Actually, they would not know how to do such a simple task. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 25, 2008 9:06 AM:

" let's be reasonable

Um, if you had been paying attention it is the republicans that don't want to approve this bailout in its present form. They do not want to just GIVE the money over. They want to hold wall street accountable and make them liable rather than the tax payers. Of course the dems are more concerned about allowing BK Judges to rewrite mortgages for the deadbeats that can't pay which is the reason behind this mess in the first place! Deadbeats that got loans they never should have thanks to laxed lending policies the dems wanted so everyone could buy a home whether they could afford one or not. And this began in 1999 before Bush took office! Better get all your money together if you have any and buy precious metals with it before they recall the current currency and replace it with the new AMERO they are talking about! Otherwise you will lose 90% of your current spending power! "

OGS wrote on Sep 25, 2008 8:44 AM:

" SITUATION CRITICAL
Call NOW
Senate switchboard
202-224-3121
House switchboard
202-225-3121
DO It NOW! "

Mike wrote on Sep 25, 2008 6:16 AM:

" Give them nothing, the people finally say NO. Simple really. "

let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 25, 2008 12:27 AM:

" It is amazing how quickly the greedy pig republicans in Washington want to rescue their greedy pig republicans friends on Wall Street. Socialism is good for the republicans when they have to bail out their buddies but not good enough to help out citizens insofar as education and health care. Imagine what the pigs would have done with social security if Bush had his way with making it private. "

Greed wrote on Sep 24, 2008 8:15 PM:

" We should be in Utopia right now. The Bush Tax cuts were supposed to put the entire country on easy street. The old argument that tax cuts return more money to the treasury doesn't seem to be working. Now these jerks want Congress to give them control of $700+ billion. Need I say there is no credibility left among Bush's inner circle. Remember the war resolution? Bush claimed invasion would be the last resort, and he just needed this authority, and show of unity, to get the inspectors back into Iraq. He looked into the cameras during his State Of The Union speech and told bald-faces lies. The National Press Corps were his cheerleaders, and they are again for this open-ended raid on our treasury. As for the Congressmen and Senators that took Bush at his word, they should not be fooled again! There is no emergency this minute. I can live with a 8000 DOW, and even lower if necessary. Haste makes waste! Everything should be put off until McCain or Obama is sworn in. "

OGS wrote on Sep 24, 2008 5:06 AM:

" to Follow the Constitution
Unfortunately some type of agreement will deploy Mexican or Canadian troops to USA soil to avoid this situation. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 23, 2008 8:40 PM:

" The Center for Responsive Politics has been tabulating which members of the Senate and Congress have been receiving the most money from Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae since 1989. Barack Obama is 2nd on the list of those who have been at the trough of PAC money. Obama has only been in Washington D.C. for four years but has received more money than long term representitives in the Senate and Congress. McCain is around 40th, yet has been in office longer than Obama for decades. McCain got ZERO from PACs, but $21,550 from individuals. Notice that McCain was one of the few to get any money from PACs associated with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae.

Barack Obama has gotten over $126,000 thousand dollars in his short time, four years, in the Senate by the finanially mismanaged Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae who are currently in a financial debacle and now being bailed out by the federal government. In other words from our pockets. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 23, 2008 5:26 PM:

" OGS

From the soldiers I talked to they stated they will NEVER turn against the people like that no matter what the government orderd them to do. They said they are sworn to uphold the constitution, not the government! So it could result in soldiers picking sides between the government and the people! For those that say they will defend the constitution over our government, God bless those men and women of our military! "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 23, 2008 4:31 PM:

" Obama just stated today he will NOT be voting on this bill! He will be busy campaigning. LOL Typical. He NEVER votes! That way no one can ever come back and use which way he voted against him. If he doesn't vote no one can use that against him! Just what we need, huh? A President to affraid of making a decision and voting for what he thinks is right! He doesn't want you know what he really thinks! And this is the change Obama lovers wants??? Someone that can never make a decision on anything? God help the USA if he gets elected! No wonder the terrorists want him to win so bad! "

OGS wrote on Sep 23, 2008 12:22 PM:

" America: Destroyed by Design,,,bring down the financial markets, usher in the Amero and the North American Union. National socialism for the elite. Poverty for We The People. The Army's 3rd Battalion will be on USA soil Oct 1st, under the guise of helping us, they will be here for the social unrest if/when the stuff hits the fan. The bailout may in fact destroy what is left financially of our country. Be Very Concerned! "

OGS wrote on Sep 23, 2008 11:51 AM:

" This Bill for the bailout is only 4 pages long!?! Where are the checks and balances? Where is Congress? Will McCain and Obama stop their precious campaigns and come back for the vote? SITUATION CRITICAL! Lying, cheating, and stealing and they say crime doesn't pay! Will this be a a $700 trillion looting of our treasury? Don't let it happen. Rise up and speak up! "

Patriot wrote on Sep 23, 2008 11:02 AM:

" Isn't it interesting that the New York state governor had to step down just three weeks after he accused the Bush Administration for allowing all the bad mortgage loan practices. The media stated he liked girls while it is known that the Shrub likes boys and still the Shrub doesn't have to step down. I guess the American media dropped the ball on this one. "

OGS wrote on Sep 23, 2008 9:31 AM:

" WE HAVE BEEN BETRAYED!
SAY IT!
WE HAVE BEEN BETRAYED!
Shout it out and get on the phone to congress Today!!!! "

Mama Kelly wrote on Sep 23, 2008 3:10 AM:

" Donkeys, Elephants... Bull. Republicans preach deregulation. Our entire culture preaches greed is good. Should someone have seen this coming and stopped it? yes. Should it have been a Donkey or an Elephant? Who cares? No one did and now we are all going to have to pay for the mistake. Senator McCain cosponsored a watered down bill back in 2005 that never got out of committee due to it's poor construction -Republican and Democrats both didn't like the bill-and then he never did anything else about it because he was too busy running for president. Senator Obama had only been in the Senate for 5 months when that bill was introduced, and shortly after started his own Presidential campaign. For a Republican to say they have no blame is ludicrous. For a Democrat to say they have no blame is irresponsible. We vote for these people to look out for us and they all failed. They all did. Who will be less likely to repeat the mistake? That is the question everyone has to decide on election day. "

OGS wrote on Sep 23, 2008 1:08 AM:

" Paulson's plan to for the bailout will make him a Financial Dictator with OUR TAX MONEY, and will include no review or recourse for any of his actions!!! Congress will take a recess on Oct 1st unless we all get on the phone and tell them to stay in D.C. and fix this horrific mess which looks to be a financial armageddon!!! SO much evidence and so little time to save this country and your own behinds! MAKE THOSE CALLS TODAY! "

The Cat wrote on Sep 22, 2008 9:58 PM:

" Hot flash for you “it’s Bush’s fault crowd”. This is a Donkey problem from start to finish. From St FDR, who’s New (Bad) Deal created Fannie, and the “great” LBJ, who’s Not So Great Society created Freddie, through Peanuthead’s Community Redevelopment Act and Bubba’s administration (via Cuomo and Reno) with their forcing lending institutions to “open up the mortgage market” to Obummer, with the likes of book cooking Raines and Johnson as “advisors”, and the messiah and the likes of Dodd and Frank taking big contributions from Freddie and Fannie, this has DONKEY party and “community organizer” written all over it. We had to make sure the “underprivileged” could afford houses as part of the American Dream even if they couldn’t pay for them. With Obummer in change with the likes of czarina Nancy and Hairy Reid look for more of the same. Kiss goodbye to the economy, your savings, your jobs, and the laughable “middleclass tax cuts”. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 5:19 PM:

" OGS wrote on Sep 22, 2008 3:49 PM:
" This massive bailout takes from We The People and gives to the financial elite! People it is time you all wake up from your red pill, blue pill slumber and realize it is THEM AGAINST US! United We Stand, divided we fall. "

You are absoluting correct! The sad thing is most people will just keep their heads buried in the sand and assume everything will work out OK and that there is nothing they can do about it anyway!

You CAN do something. You can vote against every single politician currently serving come election day and you can retain your money by refusing to give it to the government. Retain YOUR money until the government restores constitutional order! It is your constitutional right! "

OGS wrote on Sep 22, 2008 3:49 PM:

" This massive bailout takes from We The People and gives to the financial elite! People it is time you all wake up from your red pill, blue pill slumber and realize it is THEM AGAINST US! United We Stand, divided we fall. "

OGS wrote on Sep 22, 2008 3:11 PM:

" The hundreds of billion$ just got upgrades to trillion$. Hold on to your shirts, cause these crooks will want the shirt off your back too! "

bnblogger wrote on Sep 22, 2008 3:05 PM:

" LOL they are only conservative when it comes to the rich man's money. They are quite liberal with their spending.

" Time to say thank you to the DEMOCRATIC socialists who caused the problem and now are relying on republicans to try to fix what they broke. The republican party is the only conservative party. " "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:30 PM:

" And there you have folks! The facts!

If anyone has any doubts simply look it up! You can go to the Library of Congress site and look up the bill that McCain cosponsered trying to prevent the very mess we have today! But Obama was one of the democrats that rejected the bill! And now he is trying to blame it all on McCain. How classic!

Look up bill S.190 Title: A bill to address the regulation of secondary mortgage market enterprises, and for other purposes.

Sponsor: Sen Hagel, Chuck [NE] (introduced 1/26/2005) Cosponsors (3) Sen McCain, John [AZ] - 5/25/2006, Sen Sununu, John E. [NH] - 1/26/2005, Sen Dole, Elizabeth [NC] - 1/26/2005 "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:24 PM:

" There has been a lot of talk about who is to blame for this crisis. A look back at the story of 2005 makes the answer pretty clear.

Oh, and there is one little footnote to the story that's worth keeping in mind while Democrats point fingers between now and Nov. 4: Senator John McCain was one of the three cosponsors of S.190, the bill that would have averted this mess. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:24 PM:

" Throughout his political career, Obama has gotten more than $125,000 in campaign contributions from employees and political action committees of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, second only to Dodd, the Senate Banking Committee chairman, who received more than $165,000.

Clinton, the 12th-ranked recipient of Fannie and Freddie PAC and employee contributions, has received more than $75,000 from the two enterprises and their employees. The private profit found its way back to the senators who killed the fix. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:24 PM:

" Mounds of Materials

Now that the collapse has occurred, the roadblock built by Senate Democrats in 2005 is unforgivable. Many who opposed the bill doubtlessly did so for honorable reasons. Fannie and Freddie provided mounds of materials defending their practices. Perhaps some found their propaganda convincing.

But we now know that many of the senators who protected Fannie and Freddie, including Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton and Christopher Dodd, have received mind-boggling levels of financial support from them over the years. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:23 PM:

" But the bill didn't become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn't even get the Senate to vote on the matter.

That such a reckless political stand could have been taken by the Democrats was obscene even then. Wallison wrote at the time: ``It is a classic case of socializing the risk while privatizing the profit. The Democrats and the few Republicans who oppose portfolio limitations could not possibly do so if their constituents understood what they were doing.'' "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:23 PM:

" What happened next was extraordinary. For the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets.

Different World

If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. In 2005, 2006 and 2007, a blizzard of terrible mortgage paper fluttered out of the Fannie and Freddie clouds, burying many of our oldest and most venerable institutions. Without their checkbooks keeping the market liquid and buying up excess supply, the market would likely have not existed. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:23 PM:

" Greenspan's Warning

The clear gravity of the situation pushed the legislation forward. Some might say the current mess couldn't be foreseen, yet in 2005 Alan Greenspan told Congress how urgent it was for it to act in the clearest possible terms: If Fannie and Freddie ``continue to grow, continue to have the low capital that they have, continue to engage in the dynamic hedging of their portfolios, which they need to do for interest rate risk aversion, they potentially create ever-growing potential systemic risk down the road,'' he said. ``We are placing the total financial system of the future at a substantial risk.'' "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:22 PM:

" Then legislative momentum emerged for an attempt to create a ``world-class regulator'' that would oversee the pair more like banks, imposing strict requirements on their ability to take excessive risks. Politicians who previously had associated themselves proudly with the two accounting miscreants were less eager to be associated with them. The time was ripe. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:22 PM:

" Back in 2005, Fannie and Freddie were, after years of dominating Washington, on the ropes. They were enmeshed in accounting scandals that led to turnover at the top. At one telling moment in late 2004, captured in an article by my American Enterprise Institute colleague Peter Wallison, the Securities and Exchange Comiission's chief accountant told disgraced Fannie Mae chief Franklin Raines that Fannie's position on the relevant accounting issue was not even ``on the page'' of allowable interpretations. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:22 PM:

" Turning Point

Take away Fannie and Freddie, or regulate them more wisely, and it's hard to imagine how these highly liquid markets would ever have emerged. This whole mess would never have happened.

It is easy to identify the historical turning point that marked the beginning of the end. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:22 PM:

" In the times that Fannie and Freddie couldn't make the market, they became the market. Over the years, it added up to an enormous obligation. As of last June, Fannie alone owned or guaranteed more than $388 billion in high-risk mortgage investments. Their large presence created an environment within which even mortgage-backed securities assembled by others could find a ready home.

The problem was that the trillions of dollars in play were only low-risk investments if real estate prices continued to rise. Once they began to fall, the entire house of cards came down with them. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:21 PM:

" But really, it isn't. Enough cards on this table have been turned over that the story is now clear. The economic history books will describe this episode in simple and understandable terms: Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac exploded, and many bystanders were injured in the blast, some fatally.

Fannie and Freddie did this by becoming a key enabler of the mortgage crisis. They fueled Wall Street's efforts to securitize subprime loans by becoming the primary customer of all AAA-rated subprime-mortgage pools. In addition, they held an enormous portfolio of mortgages themselves. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 1:21 PM:

" How the Democrats Created the Financial Crisis:

The financial crisis of the past year has provided a number of surprising twists and turns, and from Bear Stearns Cos. to American International Group Inc., ambiguity has been a big part of the story.

Why did Bear Stearns fail, and how does that relate to AIG? It all seems so complex. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 22, 2008 11:12 AM:

" i said that wrote on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM:

The administration has no authority to even consider bailing out these PRIVATE companies. It is against the constitution and abuse of power.

Did the government ever ask YOU for permission to do this? Last time I checked the government is designed to serve the PEOPLE! Now they decided to abuse their power once again by forcing the people to serve the government!

Everyone should be outraged over this and stand up ready to refuse to give the government any more of their money until they restore constitutional order! The only fools in this is the people for sitting back doing nothing by allowing their servant government to get away with this corruption! "

i said that wrote on Sep 22, 2008 10:59 AM:

" If $700 Billion of tax payer money isn't enough (w/out adding in Freddie and Fannie), the administration wants this money without absolutely any oversight what-so-ever. Isn't that what got us into this mess? NO Oversight. NO Regulations. Companies will do what is right, and the Market always corrects itself. Now we know Reagan was Wrong and so are those who still believe that message. Lastly, "Follow the Constitution" it is you who needs to get off the "Kool-Aid," if you even know what Bill O'Reilly is referring to when he says it. Geesh! "

OGS wrote on Sep 22, 2008 9:43 AM:

" to Dave
Sounds like good book. Keep reading and inform the masses. "

arete wrote on Sep 22, 2008 9:25 AM:

" Well, one part that was definitely caused by Republicans will be the doubling of the national debt during George W. Bush's tenure. Remember, when he came into office we had three years running of budget surpluses, were paying down the national debt and had retired the 30-year Treasury bond because we weren't borrowing long any more. Our debt stood at $5.6 trillion then. It is now close to $10 trillion and any doubts about whether Mr. Bush would leave office as a $10 trillion man have been dispelled with the currently proposed Mother of All Bailouts which will add another $700 billion, assuming it comes in at budget.

Get off these boards and write your Congressman. Tell them to reject this bailout. It is not my job or yours as a taxpayer to buy at above-market prices toxic securities held by these Wall Street geniuses. "

Dave wrote on Sep 21, 2008 10:56 PM:

" I bought a book today called "The Wrecking Crew" by a fellow named Thomas Frank. So far it's fascinating. He's laying the groundworks to show that all this financial crisis has been orchestrated by the present day "so called" Conservative Republicans (they're neither conservative or republican) as a means to fill their coffers with tax payers money.
This book was published just weeks ago but written months ago. Apparently someone saw it coming. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 21, 2008 4:39 PM:

" TMIB wrote on Sep 21, 2008 2:58 PM:
" To let's be reasonable: Where do you get that this was caused by republicans?

It's because Obama told him so! LOL "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 21, 2008 4:37 PM:

" let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:02 PM:

" Time to say thank you to the DEMOCRATIC socialists who caused the problem and now are relying on republicans to try to fix what they broke. The republican party is the only conservative party. "

That's better. At least now you make a little better sense! LOL "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 21, 2008 4:11 PM:

" let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:02 PM:
" Time to say thank you to the republican socialists who caused the problem and now are trying to fix what they broke. The democratic party is the only conservative party. "

LOL...Dude, you really need to get off the koolaide! LOL

This was caused by Fannie and Freddie which is a branch established by democrats! More prove that more government does not work! "

TMIB wrote on Sep 21, 2008 2:58 PM:

" To let's be reasonable: Where do you get that this was caused by republicans? It actually can be traced back to Clinton very easily. But just keep believing everything the Dems say with question. Both parties have their part in this. Look at congress as well. "

let's be reasonable wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:02 PM:

" Time to say thank you to the republican socialists who caused the problem and now are trying to fix what they broke. The democratic party is the only conservative party. "

Controller wrote on Sep 20, 2008 6:43 PM:

" And Republicans are always accusing the Democrats of wanting to grow government and spending! LOL "

Meh wrote on Sep 20, 2008 5:01 PM:

" Horray for corporate socialism! Nationalize the bad corporate risks! Yay DubyA!!! "

OGS wrote on Sep 20, 2008 4:31 PM:

" About the bailout people please note that the Fed is owned by foreign bankers, not us the citizens of the USA. It is We The People who will be saddled with $trillions of debt. Pensioners and stockholders will lose their shirts while the CEOs will bank $millions of this. The bailout is all about saving the Big Money folk with payments from the little guy. It is We that will get the shaft big time,,,more than enough to put our financial portfolio in 3rd world status. Are you loyal to the red or the blue? It's time you see that many powerful people in office have betrayed us and will continue to do so laughing all the way (to the bank?) home. It is them AGAINST us. Don't let congress recess on Oct 1st. Call them and tell them to stay put and fix this mess for the American people! NO MORE BAILOUTS! "

BookLover wrote on Sep 20, 2008 4:30 PM:

" Something smells with this plan... perhaps it's the messenger, but it seems like a whole bunch of rich people (Bush's friends) are gonna get away with a ton of cash and the rest of US is just gonna sink farther and farther... I hope Palin can pray our country out of debt! "

alexp wrote on Sep 20, 2008 3:55 PM:

" This is not the solution. What the government should do is reduce every single-home owner's mortgage payment by 25%. That would immediately put money in a lot of family's pockets and give them the ability to spend it. Since the government seems to be holding most of the mortgages anyhow this should be easy to enact. "

effingham reader wrote on Sep 20, 2008 2:39 PM:

" isabelle, I think they only bail out their rich cronies that were dumb enough to get into their mess.......if you are like me you are not considered a "rich crony". ;-) "

i said that wrote on Sep 20, 2008 2:17 PM:

" To Follow the Constitution: Silly Clinton hater. Lehman Brothers wasn't saved by the great Socialist Bush. He decided to let that one sink. The Great Socialist Bush picks and chooses who he wants to help. And guess what? It isn't you, nor I. It is his cronies. And we thought Blago was a bag of bad apples. "

i said that wrote on Sep 20, 2008 2:14 PM:

" The best candidate, of the 21st century, that the GOP had to offer was George W. Bush. My what eight years has done. Isn't it extremely ironic that this Republican administration, with a Republican Congress for 6 of its years, has been responsible for growing the size of government more than any other administration since maybe FDR. Isn't it also extremely ironic, that now with the US Government takeover of US Financial Institutions, this Republican administration has turned to Socialism to solve their financial crisis. That is correct Republicans of all Stripes, Socialism. The petty and scary threats of Democrats being Socialists wasn't true at all. Your man, George W. Bush, the best you had to offer (oh you silly people should have elected McCain eight years ago) has turned the United States of America into a Socialistic country. How does it feel? Maybe, now he will wise up and take over the oil companies so he can rightfully pay for the financial bail-out. Once a Socialist, always a Socialist. "

The One wrote on Sep 20, 2008 1:46 PM:

" I think most of you are missing the point here. The fact that the government will be writing a check that they can not cash should be alarming to all of us. While you are all pointing fingers at republicans and democrats no one is reporting on what this will do the value of a dollar. By the time this is all said and done this will cost us, the tax payers, 1 TRILLION dollars (let's face it, the government has never come in on budget on anything). They are simply going to "print" this money and add 10% to our national debt. YOU CAN'T DO THAT WITHOUT DEVALUING THE DOLLAR.
Grab your wallets folks, this is a short term fix to a long term problem and throwing money at WILL NOT SOLVE IT...this will get much worse for us all! "

dick daley wrote on Sep 20, 2008 12:55 PM:

" Old Man River wrote "FNMA and FHLMC were created by Clinton" He then wrote research it yourself... I don't have to research it myself. He's retarded. "

isabelle wrote on Sep 20, 2008 12:18 PM:

" Our finances aren't in great shape right now either. When is the government going to bail out my husband and me? "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:40 AM:

" Obama Has Served In Federal Office Since 2005.
Obama Ranks Second Among Donations From Lehman Brothers Among All Members Of Congress Since 1989:

In Just Four Years, Obama Has Received More Money From Lehman Brothers Than Any Other Member Of Congress In The Past Two Decades (Since 1989) Except Sen. Hillary Clinton.

OBAMA ADVISOR JIM JOHNSON FORMER FANNIE MAE AND LEHMAN BROTHERS EXECUTIVES EXPANDED LOBBYING ACTIVITIES AND RECEIVED MILLIONS IN COMPENSATION "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:39 AM:

" OBAMA A TOP RECIPIENT IN CONTRIBITIONS FROM FANNIE MAE, FREDDIE MAC AND LEHMAN BROTHERS

Obama Ranks Second Among Donations From Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac Among All Members Of Congress Since 1989:

In Just Four Years, Obama Has Received More Money From Fannie Mae And Freddie Mac Than Any Other Member Of Congress In The Past Two Decades (Since 1989) Except Senate Banking Committee Chairman Sen. Chris Dodd. "

FollowTheConsitution wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:37 AM:

" Meh wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:26 PM:
" Old Man River, Freddie Mac was created in 1970 and Fannie Mae in 1968... but anything to blame Clinton! "

Fannie Mae was founded as a government agency in 1938 as part of Franklin Delano Roosevelt's New Deal to provide liquidity to the mortgage market. For the next 30 years, Fannie Mae held a virtual monopoly on the secondary mortgage market in the United States.

In 1968, to remove the activity of Fannie Mae from the annual balance sheet of the federal budget, it was converted into a private corporation.[5] Fannie Mae ceased to be the guarantor of government-issued mortgages, and that responsibility was transferred to the new Government National Mortgage Association (Ginnie Mae).

Fannie Mae was put under a conservatorship of the U.S. Federal government on Sunday, 2008-09-07: Federal takeover of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. "

JMK wrote on Sep 20, 2008 11:35 AM:

" The more we point the finger at each other (hard working Democrats and Republicans), the less we point the finger at the true culprits of this crime against us and our children (and perhaps their children if we can keep the house of cards standing that long). Why don't we stop fighting with each other about which candidate will screw things up less and express outrage at the right people? We obviously need some changes - but it has to be GOOD change - "change" brought on this financial mess at some point in the past. "

Dave wrote on Sep 20, 2008 10:22 AM:

" ofc: For the record I am not an Obama supporter. There isn't a dimes worth of difference between him and McCain. Both are tax and spend.
Both Ron Paul and Bob Barr have been on Fox news business with Neil Cavuto. They have the courage to say this whole bail out will do a lot to destory America by saddling us with more taxes and destroying the dollar.
McCain and Obama are lining up at the trough with the tax and spend crowd. "

Dave wrote on Sep 20, 2008 10:16 AM:

" Pseudo: The government can listen to my phone conversations, read my emails and read anything I write. I can be considered an "enemy combative" for using free speech. They want me to carry a personal identification card to be able to travel from state to state or fly. I can be whisked away to a foreign country and be held without any habeas corpus rights for years if I'm even suspected of doing something wrong. I'm a 64 year old blonde hair, blue eyed white guy but I was strip searched at an airport in Colorado Springs.
I am watching our financial system being taken over by the government. Taxes will rise. My kids and granddads are slaves to debt created by bureaucrats. Where is the right to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness if it requires us to be slaves to big government controlled by big business?
The war on terror just creates more terrorist attacts-Look at Pakistan today.
The war on drugs just creates more drug dealers.
All these things affect me personally. "

ofc313 wrote on Sep 20, 2008 9:13 AM:

" Gee Dave just what rights of yours were limited by Homeland Security ?????? I am sure your saviour Osama will save the world from certian collapse. This is a bi partisan issue and both sides are to blame. No President could do anything alone and neither will Obama. He will talk endlessly to the Democratic do nothing congress while our economy collapses and we slip into another depression. Vote Nader ! he saved us from the corvair !!!!!!!!!!!! "

tim50 wrote on Sep 20, 2008 9:05 AM:

" The last 8 years have been the worst ever on the true middle class in this country. Mr Bush is really bailing out his cronies who are losing their shirts,and we the true middle class and our children will be paying for this for a very lond time. We need to stop being one issue voters and vote for what is best for the country now and in the future. "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:32 AM:

" chuckles, you can look it up: bank deregulation began during the Carter administration and raged on under Clinton. So please, none of this B-S about the Republicans loving deregulation... "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:30 AM:

" Dave, I'm putting you on the spot: what personal freedoms has Bush limited? The right to buy a cookbook for putting together a nuclear bomb without being monitored? What have you lost that you really need? Was it worth it to help keep the nation safe from another 9/11? Or is this really all about hatred of Bush and the Republicans? "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:27 AM:

" According to what MSNBC is reporting Saturday morning, the bailout will cost us $800 billion. We're not out of the woods by a long shot, sports fans. The government may have to raise taxes just to absorb all these toxic loans. There goes (maybe) national healthcare and a college education for everyone. "

Jarhead71 wrote on Sep 20, 2008 8:02 AM:

" dwarf, the difference is that when it is the Democrat side of the party it is called socialism. When it is the Republican side of the party it is called neofacism. Given this choice, I vote socialism. Given real choice, I vote let the banks and money men fall. "

Dave wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:21 PM:

" The article states="There are precedents for such a federal takeover." Notice the words Federal takeover.
Since Bush has been president we've had the government take over all our homeland security which has done nothing but limit our personal freedoms. Now they take over a huge hunk of our money.
I laugh when I hear people call Obama a socialist.
Don't look Ethel, but we're all socialist now. "

chuckles wrote on Sep 19, 2008 8:20 PM:

" The republican party believes in deregulation and leaving the market alone. Now they are changing their tune along with McCain. Bush appoints the people who have the oversight of this but they seem to be in denial about everything. "

pseudo-intellectual wrote on Sep 19, 2008 5:25 PM:

" If this bailout is truly a bipartisan effort, maybe- just maybe we can see some bipartisanship on our energy problems as well. "

steve... wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:55 PM:

" No party did this more than both parties did. They are all in it and getting rich from it while our tax dollars, once again, fund socialism for the American business class. Because hey, if it is not good for the gander it must be great for the goose. Funny, my shoes, appliances, and clothng say made in China and now our government buildings, roads, and bridges say owned by China. I feel like we are plugging a huge hole in a damn that is going to break regardless. The best part about this is watching the businesses that are putting people out of work while handing their CEO's millions make it all better with their now un-employed ranks tax money. Awesome. "

Meh wrote on Sep 19, 2008 1:26 PM:

" Old Man River, Freddie Mac was created in 1970 and Fannie Mae in 1968... but anything to blame Clinton! "

dwarf wrote on Sep 19, 2008 12:12 PM:

" So the government is putting money into financial situations, bailing large banks and corporations out of problems they themselves created. And, presumably, will increase regulation.

Come on, Pantagraph. Whenever a Democrat suggests this, I hear cries about Socialism and how an unrestrained free market is the only thing that makes sense. Doesn't all this intervention in private business make Bush a socialist? "

arete wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:46 AM:

" W has a Harvard MBA, so we'll be OK. "

Old Man River wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:30 AM:

" "Freddie" and "Fannie" were a creation of the Clinton Adminstration in 1997. It's primary purpose was to halt what was seen as "redlining" by private lenders against high risk pursuers of home loans. The operation was run by Clinton operatives Mudd, Raines, Johnson and Gorelick. All of them made millions at the expense of the American taxpayer while mismanaging and running the operation into the ground. Bush tried to to regulate the operation in 2003 but was stonewalled by Congress, particularly Barney Frank. Politicians on both sides of the aisle are to blame as well as the Administration. The Congressional Black Caucus were major supporters of "Freddie" and Fannie"and basically chose to turn a blind eye to all the corruption and mismanagement. Just research it for yourself. "

Crybaby wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:30 AM:

" I love that look on GB's face. " Phew, Henry: did you do that?" "

McLovin It wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:26 AM:

" First, let me preface this by saying I don't agree with much of anything included in this bailout plan. Secondly, before everyone starts blaming Bush for every facet of this, don't forget that it was the Democrat Congress and their committess that were responsible for the oversight of these companies. Also, this bail out mess was not just Bush's idea. Queen Pelosi herself had to slather on the war paint and get in front of the cameras to gleefully announce the plan. The Dems had just as much to do with it as the GOP. If you think anything different you're a fool. "

IluvBMI wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:24 AM:

" Neither Obama nor McCain will solve this. The banks got greedy. The stupid people who took out loans and did not read the contract so they could "keep up with Jones'" were greedy. Could the government intervened and stopped the bubble? NO. The banks are a private, and they only ask for the Fed to help when it goes bad...like now.

The bigger joke, is the Fed backing these banks. Doesn't everyone read? The Fed is basically in DEBT to someone else anyway, so we are going to back loans with funny money..... Then the poor slobs that still are employeed have to foot the bill with more taxes... READ MY LIPS --- TAXES ARE COMING, and it won't be for government programs, it will be to save your neighbor's house because they didn't pay attention during math class. "

floyd wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:16 AM:

" Why doesn't the do nothing democrat controlled house and senate get most of the responsibility for this. They've actually done nothing since the took over power and with a 9% approval rating the liberal friendly media and AP will never call them up on it. Pointing the finger in the wrong direction. "

jimmy james wrote on Sep 19, 2008 11:03 AM:

" and the raiding of our wallets continues unabated. this administration will go down in history as the most corrupt and financially disastrous for our nation- ever. they are taking our money to "bail out" crisis after crisis that THEY CREATED, *specifically* so they could bail them out... like a war against a concept, not a real enemy. the rich get richer, the poor get poorer and those of us in the middle pay for it all... just as it has always been when jackals like bush and his "advisers" take control. "

alexp wrote on Sep 19, 2008 6:35 AM:

" Bush is always working hard to drive our economy to where it has never gone before. Economic turmoil was just a bonus! "

beowulf wrote on Sep 18, 2008 8:09 PM:

" The headline is perfect...

Yes... he's been working hard for 8 long years to bring about this mess. What did you expect from a guy who ran every business he was HANDED, into the ground? "

T wrote on Sep 18, 2008 7:31 PM:

" Clinton was a saint compared to this bozo "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Sep 18, 2008 5:38 PM:

" Sorta like Bill Clinton eight years ago "

arete wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:34 PM:

" Bush? Is he still around? The campaign seems to keep him well-concealed. Didn't even come to the convention. "

Archibald76 wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:12 PM:

" I'll bet he's working hard......Let see how many more wealth Americans, Corporations and Bankers he can bailout, while middle class and poor people can't figure out how to send their kids to college or juggle the price of gas with health care cost. I think he is working overtime....... "

Meh wrote on Sep 18, 2008 4:08 PM:

" BJR, grow up. The CEO doesn't employ people out of the goodness of his heart. I'm employed because I fill a need. As soon as the CEO finds a way to replace my function with somebody in India (or decides he needs a ivory back scratcher), then I'm out the door. Of course, I'm continually improving myself and making myself more valuable, but its still a game. When you graduate college and have to do something else besides keeping notes for the College Republicans, you'll understand how the working world works. "

Generation Bleach wrote on Sep 18, 2008 3:36 PM:

" Flood Of Truth... where do you think I side with the Democrats? Historically war is good for the economy. "

T wrote on Sep 18, 2008 2:40 PM:

" Did'nt the Republicans say that the economy is fundamentally sound and they called us whiners? GWB working was what caused this problem. Cut Taxes and SPEND MORE "

effingham reader wrote on Sep 18, 2008 2:23 PM:

" Bush working at all YEAH RIGHT! "

Rivers wrote on Sep 18, 2008 2:06 PM:

" Nice headline. Nuff said. "

BJR wrote on Sep 18, 2008 1:59 PM:

" Meh, look another attack the man, evil CEO post. Tonight when you are saying grace with your family. Remember to thank not only God, but BJR (tax payers), and the evil CEO's for providing work for you and your family. Then you can go on your rants about thanks for Obama, once elected we can all quit work and live off the government. Here's an idea Meh, if you quit blaming/whining to others maybe if you worked a little harder, good things will happen. I know, it is a difficult concept to grasp. "

Grandma of Two wrote on Sep 18, 2008 1:38 PM:

" Yes, if it wasn't for the situation, the headline would be comical. When the people who caused this turmoil are properly punished and their bonuses and benefits swiped away, then justice will be done. In the meantime, they are still enjoying their vacation homes, while the rest of us give up on basic items just to make ends meet. It's no longer "We, the People", it's "We, the polititians and anybody we think is our friend". "

gelfing wrote on Sep 18, 2008 1:36 PM:

" Hey Sweetcheeks... can you tell me exactly what "Bushonomics" caused this? I'm really interested to hear details. "

Flood Of Truth wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:50 PM:

" Its a Democratic Congress, but yet its Bush fault? Both Repubs and Demo's have let the people down...not just one person. Generation Bleach..your democratic congress voted to go to Iraq... "

Simple Simon wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:49 PM:

" The economy is the lowest it has been since the depression, and everyone is feeling the hrt from it. The collapse of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to the drop in the stock market, these things do not just "happen". They happen because of years of bad decisions made in favor of big corporate special interests.
Home foreclosures are at a high, and home values are falling Gas prices are crazy, and we're still spending billions every month on a war in Iraq when we should be in Afganastan.
Bush has done more than enough, let's get some one in office who can turn this around and not soomeone who will just give us more of the same! "

WorkinTheOpinionBoard wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:48 PM:

" "Bush says he's working hard on deepening economic turmoil"
Well...the headline really does say it all....
oh...was that not what the article was about? Try wording the headline just a little. I got quite the chuckle. "

dwarf wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:30 PM:

" bnblogger: It's Rovian politics. If you don't like the message, try to discredit the messenger.

It's all part of the mindset that you can argue with facts. "

Pangloss wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:22 PM:

" Bush says he's working hard on deepening economic turmoil

Mission Accomplished "

bnblogger wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:10 PM:

" DA:
oh please!
The media isnt "biased".

Why do people use that cop out when they read reports on things that go against their side of the issue? "

Devil's Advocate wrote on Sep 18, 2008 12:02 PM:

" Did the Democrat National Committee write this headline or is it just the "unbiased" media hard at